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News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom
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GhostHost1000
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If they build an entrance/exit around the haunted mansion queue I’m curious how they’ll do this unless they plan on docking the riverboat
They are probably going to loop it back to HM but I feel like the park would flow a lot better if you tore out the Village Haus and bathroom and built a path between IASW and NFL. Would need to build what is effectively a bridge over the northern utilidor portal and maybe that work would hurt operations.
DisneyDodo
Well-Known Member
Got it. Yea, I suggested that this would be a possibility, but my concern is that the right arrow represents a long empty pathway. It wouldn’t be the end of the world, but it wouldn’t be great either because it still means getting to that new land is kind of a pain from the right side of the park.
I think you can tell an interesting all ages story that teams up a significant amount of villains from the Renaissance/adjacent roster. Jafar, Hades, Ursula, and Yzma would all play very well off each other: supernaturally powerful villains brought to life by real scenery chewing performances.
yensidtlaw1969
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The covered Arcades that flank the East and West sides of Main Street at Disneyland Paris are one of the park's most clever, useful, and beautiful flourishes. They also let into all the Main Street shops from the back sides, which allows for continued shopping during parades, storms, and fireworks shows while also permitting guest flow in and out of the park:
Compare to WDW's Main Street Bypass on the east side and the difference is . . .
. If only Magic Kingdom got a real equivalent to the above:
DisneyDodo
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As opposed to something like this:
where you have a land just past HM, which you can visit on your way to the other land.
the hm que is terrible and apparently their have been plans to redo it for a long time and the shade structures that are in fron of HM right now were only meant to be temporary. at least I think i heard that on here...maybe they could swap the graveyard to the western side and use that area as a themed que and then put a dedicated carriage house gift shop like in DL, where the current graveyard is.
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I would say close to zero percent chance that area is accessible to park guests before Holiday season 2029.
doctornick
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Well, once you get past HM, there's no reason there can't be "stuff" along the around I drew right north of the HM showbuilding. Heck, they can and probably would put some shops or dining, etc. along the path as it walks along the HM showbuilding - the land is definitely wide enough there to do more than "just" a path.
Phicinfan
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Oh, you shouldn't have gone and said that.... now they will want to prove you wrong...
He was just kidding Disney...
Brer Panther
Well-Known Member
Wouldn't it be redundant to have Ursula in the attraction when she's already featured in an attraction in the park?
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
The MK expansion? For the most part, that’s likely accurate although they could open a walkway north of RoA early if they want. They did so at DAK while still building EE. It would be nice to be able to walk past a mountain under construction again. Been awhile.
ChewbaccaYourMum
Well-Known Member
Something I just thought of. Thinking about Villains Land and all the potential.. Obviously the night time aspect of this land would be amazing. Since most of the nighttime fireworks come from way behind Cinderella Castle and can be seen from all over MK: Imagine they play with that in Villains Land.
Hear me out:
There's going to be a focal point of this land, I'm guessing? Like Maleficent's castle or something like that. What if in this Villains land they have that focal point located in a spot that behind it the normal MK fireworks could be seen behind it, and it has a similar holding ground for people to stand, like they do in front of Cinderella Castle and you can see the same fireworks behind this Villains Land castle, but... this is where huge wishful thinking comes in... they have different audio and music synced with the fireworks inside Villains Land.
So basically it would be two firework shows, but using the same actual fireworks.
You go in front of Cinderella Castle for "Happily Ever After" (or whatever it is at the time this opens)
And if you want you go in front of the Villains Land "castle" to see a different show (but, again, using the same fireworks)
They can have two times for the firework show, like they used to have, and people visiting for a day could technically watch the fireworks from both locations.
Hear me out:
There's going to be a focal point of this land, I'm guessing? Like Maleficent's castle or something like that. What if in this Villains land they have that focal point located in a spot that behind it the normal MK fireworks could be seen behind it, and it has a similar holding ground for people to stand, like they do in front of Cinderella Castle and you can see the same fireworks behind this Villains Land castle, but... this is where huge wishful thinking comes in... they have different audio and music synced with the fireworks inside Villains Land.
So basically it would be two firework shows, but using the same actual fireworks.
You go in front of Cinderella Castle for "Happily Ever After" (or whatever it is at the time this opens)
And if you want you go in front of the Villains Land "castle" to see a different show (but, again, using the same fireworks)
They can have two times for the firework show, like they used to have, and people visiting for a day could technically watch the fireworks from both locations.
pigglewiggle
Well-Known Member
They could just call the whole land The Other Side and showcase the dark side of the films!
Phicinfan
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OK, have to ask. At one time I thought there was a rumor or plan to dock the boat and basically eliminate TSI and the RoA.
Could this still be part of all of this? To expand more for the new items?
Also, I get the plan was as pictured earlier, which is mostly north of BMTRR. But as they are also working west, could there be some other expansion over there?
Could this still be part of all of this? To expand more for the new items?
Also, I get the plan was as pictured earlier, which is mostly north of BMTRR. But as they are also working west, could there be some other expansion over there?
i don’t really think that should factor into it
This confirmation makes me think they are ready to execute at least half a plan, I guess we will find out later this year exactly what they are thinking. In my mind 2 years, I had imagined them building the Frontierland expansion half and the Villains half as two separate creative projects that shared some infrastructure work. Maybe the Frontierland expansion opens in 2029-2030 and an empty loop gets filled in over the next 2-3 years after that?
UNCgolf
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They could send all buses to the secondary entrance, or even just buses from some subset of resorts. That would be an easy way to ensure thousands of guests were using it instead of the main entrance.
On the other hand, I think a lot of people would be upset to be shunted to a secondary entrance instead of going through the main gate to Main Street and the castle.