Avengers Endgame Spoiler Discussion

[DisneyGigi]

Without Depp they should just stop and not continue.

They should just stop, at this point.

 

[MouseMelly]

Yep. I was expecting much more from her character in this movie in all honesty.

I was expecting more screen time, but I’m glad she wasn’t the deciding factor or momentum change.

 

[Mike S]

I was expecting more screen time, but I’m glad she wasn’t the deciding factor or momentum change.

Like Rocket and Nebula she should’ve come for the time heist. Maybe they could’ve added drama to this movie by introducing whatever her Kryptonite is and having her grow as a character by connecting with the others since she would then have to work together with them and couldn’t depend on her immense power.

As it is she’s just used as a plot device to save Tony and Nebula and destroy the ship. More scenes like the farmhouse would’ve been appreciated as I actually enjoyed the teamwork displayed.

 

[MouseMelly]

Like Rocket and Nebula she should’ve come for the time heist. Maybe they could’ve added drama to this movie by introducing whatever her Kryptonite is and having her grow as a character by connecting with the others since she would then have to work together with them and couldn’t depend on her immense power.

As it is she’s just used as a plot device to save Tony and Nebula and destroy the ship. More scenes like the farmhouse would’ve been appreciated.

Agreed

 

[Cosmic Commando]

These are likely the same people who thought the worlds dumbest car chase in space with a gas tank in the last Johnson was a good idea

It was a great idea... in Battlestar Galactica.

Back on topic, check out all the records Endgame set.

 

[Darkprime]

The Fox deal really couldn't have come at a better time for Marvel. So ready to see X-Men and FF done properly.

 

[spacemt354]

Maybe, but I would say that if RDJ and or CE ever agreed to come back they would make the movies.

I could see them coming back for Secret Wars if they ever do that in Phase 4 or 5. The Russos even joked that they'd come back to direct it. That would have even more characters in it

 

[Flippin'Flounder]

I'm pretty sure Tony and Cap went back to the day Tony was born. I don't remember the exact day they went to, but his birthday is 5/29/1970. "Your dad was at work when you were born" sounds like something a mom would say. And it's not too surprising that Howard would have told his son about his shrinking coworker. And Tony also definitely would have known that the Tesseract was there at the time.

 

[Darkprime]

It would be interesting to see the russos split up and direct their own individual marvel movies. It would be cool to see Joe doing Wolveirne/X-Men and Anthony Fantastic Four. Then they reteam for Secret Wars.

 

[Tony Perkis]

The Fox deal really couldn't have come at a better time for Marvel. So ready to see X-Men and FF done properly.

I get your main point, but X-Men has been done right several times.

 

[Tony Perkis]

This just occurred to me, but the Russo’s almost always throw in random Arrested Development Easter eggs in these films.

I caught the 2 Community cameos, but is there anything AD related?

 

[Darkprime]

but X-Men has been done right several times.

eh I liked DOFP and Logan but thats about it. So for me only a few of them have been good.

 

[Tony Perkis]

eh I liked DOFP and Logan but thats about it. So for me only a few of them have been good.

The first X-Men is a solid film.

X2 is outstanding.

First Class was a blast.

 

[Disney Irish]

Like Rocket and Nebula she should’ve come for the time heist. Maybe they could’ve added drama to this movie by introducing whatever her Kryptonite is and having her grow as a character by connecting with the others since she would then have to work together with them and couldn’t depend on her immense power.

As it is she’s just used as a plot device to save Tony and Nebula and destroy the ship. More scenes like the farmhouse would’ve been appreciated as I actually enjoyed the teamwork displayed.

They need to save her growth story for Captain Marvel 2.

 

[BrianLo]

I've seen complaints online about Cap going back in time to be with Peggy Carter and not doing anything to stop Hydra's takeover of S.H.I.E.L.D. or them torturing Bucky. I wasn't thinking about that in the moment of watching the movie, but it is an unanswered question. One would hope someone like Steve Rogers would not sit back and let that happen, despite the consequences of affecting the future.

He probably would have freely meddled.

I just can't rationalize how he manages to show up at the end... clearly Sharon Carter wouldn't exist. Did he finally choose to zap back after years of living his life to say goodbye to his old colleagues?

This is why I think the Universe Steve stayed in actually is not the Universe of the Avengers anymore. I don't know how he made it back, but there was just way too much setup from the Ancient One for Steve not to have driven an alternate reality.

 

[bclane]

I could see them coming back for Secret Wars if they ever do that in Phase 4 or 5. The Russos even joked that they'd come back to direct it. That would have even more characters in it

Yes please!

 

[Tony Perkis]

I’ve watched them now a few times on YouTube, but there are 2 perfectly shot, choreographed, and scored scenes.

The return of all of the Avengers. This is fan service, but fan service in the best method possible. It’s a love letter moment to all 22 films.

The final shot with Cap’s dance with Carter. Instead of finishing on a high audience cheering last shot (looking at you, Ultron), the film decides to get smaller for a wonderful character moment. I think the final 5 minutes of this film are absolutely perfect.

 

[Disney Irish]

He probably would have freely meddled.

I just can't rationalize how he manages to show up at the end... clearly Sharon Carter wouldn't exist. Did he finally choose to zap back after years of living his life to say goodbye to his old colleagues?

This is why I think the Universe Steve stayed in actually is not the Universe of the Avengers anymore. I don't know how he made it back, but there was just way too much setup from the Ancient One for Steve not to have driven an alternate reality.

Well in the Quantum Realm space and time are basically irrelevant, so there is no real order to how things have to be done. But one explanation could be he popped back and lived his life with Peggy first, maybe meddles, and then once Peggy dies goes back and delivers all the stones to their respective time periods. In that case when he delivered all the stones to their respective times its resets all the time periods, and thus is able to go back to the proper time/universe to meetup with Sam to hand over the shield.

 

[King Racoon 77]

 

[flynnibus]

In that case when he delivered all the stones to their respective times its resets all the time periods, and thus is able to go back to the proper time/universe to meetup with Sam to hand over the shield.

The inference is he doesn't jump to that sequence tho.. as he's been there waiting for them and has no tech on him. So the timeline he is in simply converges at that point. It's suggested (IMO) that he's been on one continuous path since Peggy and was just waiting/aging while waiting for that sync up moment again.

Fun thought... does aging Captn America get dusted and restored?