AVATAR land coming to Disney's Animal Kingdom

[wdwmagic]

That's what people don't understand, conservation is not a theme and this is a theme park.

I think we are going to have to get Joe Rohde in to argue this one with you. But I think you have got your message across and had your say.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I'm only through page 13, but this made me laugh:

Will Joe Rhode be making a trip to Pandora to make sure the expansion correcty reflects actual Navi culture?:lol:

Also, I apologize if this is somewhere in pages 14-50, but themeparkone has this opening in 2015. It makes some sense as land has been cleared and presumably basic sight prep is already done on the Beastly Kingdomme Plot

 

[Theme Parkitect]

Conservation is such an abstract idea that you can't just have theme park rides about alien planets and say "oh this is so all about conservation and nature" when what you see is just some dressed up ride.

Just because the movie and theme park somehow share the same message doesn't mean they fit together thematically. By that thinking you could easily put The Universe of Energy pavillion into Animal Kingdom since hey, it';s about conservation too right?

Actually, Ellen's Energy Adventure has little to do with conservation. If anything, it praises the use of fossil fuels, as Bill goes on about renewable resources and how they aren't feasible at this point in time. The whole story is about where the energy came from and how we use it... Not how we need to change.

 

[vinnya1726]

Must admit I am surpised at this move. I have never seen the movie, but it does not seem to appeal to families, but I could be wrong. Even with that said this is a great way to attack the Harry Potter world that Universal seems to be building. Disney will find a way to tie it into AK and find ways to make it appeal to children of all ages from 1-99, that is the Disney Way. James Cameron is a genius and working with him will bring new magic to the parks that you can bank on.

I am concerned at how long it takes Disney to make these projects happen, they are going to start in 2013 and finish by 2016, I think they built all of Disney world in less time. The same could be said for the FLE, these Disney Construction projects seem to take forever. I would also believe this might prevent Epcot or Hollywood Studios from getting some much needed help, HS especially needs a few more family attractions to eat up some of the crowds.

All in all this is a move we should be excited about, I have been reading these boards for over a year and all you read is Disney is not moving forward, Disney is not trying to take down potter, Disney does not have enough thrill rides, etc....I think Avatar world will address some of those concerns. Is it the Potter Distroyer, who knows but it does have potential for greatness.

 

[PirateFrank]

Impossible.

Why? The same exact scenario is already in play at Rafiki's Planet Watch....AND a similar concept was used at The Seas, prior to Nemo...

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Well, you see. When you visit the forums on a website called, WDW Magic, it would be safe to bet that people like WDW....

But is it a prerequisite to abandon rational thought?

 

[Scuttle]

I'm only through page 13, but this made me laugh:



Also, I apologize if this is somewhere in pages 14-50, but themeparkone has this opening in 2015. It makes some sense as land has been cleared and presumably basic sight prep is already done on the Beastly Kingdomme Plot

Where does themeparkone have this opening in 2015? Do you have a link?

 

[El Grupo]

Quite simply, the movie sucked. This was a pure business decision that they felt had to be done to compete with WWOHP. Do I agree with it, no. Was it smart for business...yes.

I suspect you are correct. Of course, the WWOHP was a pure business decision as well by Universal.

Some folks feel that the Harry Potter story is weak. As some have stated in this thread, they have not be able to sit all the way through one movie in the series. But, they enjoy the related attractions at IoA. I suspect the same will be said of Avatarland.

 

[TP2000]

750 million to 1 billion .... ish???

The Chicago Tribune is quoting a Disney Company executive as stating it's budgeted at $500 Million.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/enter...ld-avatar-attraction-20110920,0,5799455.story

 

[Crazy Harry]

That's what people don't understand, conservation is not a theme and this is a theme park.

Indeed, conservation is a logical topic when discussing animals in any respect, but is not the theme of the park. Yetis and dinosaurs have nothing to do with conservation, they to however have to do with animals although ancheint and mytholgical in their own respects. Why not include a land about Native American culture? Their culture is strong with animal representation and conservation, and is more fitting with the theme of the park in that it has to do with real animals, human culture, and conservation of the earth and its animals.

 

[ElvisMickey]

I'm sorry...it's been one of those days today so I'm apologizing in advance...but this is just stupid. Not only was Avatar unoriginal and crappy, but it has nothing to do with Disney. I know...I know...neither does Star Wars. But Avatar isn't Star Wars. Maybe next we can include the Smurfs in the Fantasyland expansion.

 

[wannabef]

From the mouths of babes...

My 10 year-old daughter loves the parks and is constantly asking when we'll go again. She's also a little bit of a sci-fi geek: loves Star Wars, the Clone Wars series, watches Doctor Who (when the episodes are appropriate) and even the original series of Star Trek. She likes fantasy: Harry Potter and the Lord of the Rings are high on her list.

I told her about this, and she was very excited ... until she realized I didn't mean "Avatar: The Last Airbender."

Her reaction was not disappointment, but more like disgust: "The one with the blue people? Yeah, I don't ever want to see that."

When I told her about the original plan for Beastly Kingdomme, she got really excited at that idea.

For those who think I may have influenced her reactions, you obviously don't have children. I even tried to sound excited about the idea. She wasn't buying it.

 

[CarlFredricksen]

The Chicago Tribune is quoting a Disney Company executive as stating it's budgeted at $500 Million.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/enter...ld-avatar-attraction-20110920,0,5799455.story

I thought I read that the Tribune quoted Al Lutz...

...wouldn't go with that

 

[Did Knee]

But is it a prerequisite to abandon rational thought?

I would have to say yes Pumbas and humbly submit myself as an example. After all, I keep paying rack rate for deluxe rooms.....

 

[RSoxNo1]

taaaddaaaa

EDIT: I guess I left part of the dragon still on top of the tree, oh well.

Hah... excellent.

I believe the Parks and Resorts presentation was shortened by 30 minutes a little bit before the Expo. There could be the possibility they EXPECTED to announce this, but had to wait a little longer.

I have to believe this wasn't ready for D23, it doesn't make sense.

Likely construction sites
http://www.wdwmagic.com/Attractions...AVATAR-land-likely-construction-locations.htm

I really hope this goes on the Beastly Kingdom Plot and FotLK moves to Africa. I think putting Pandora in the middle of Africa and Asia doesn't make a lot of sense.

Also, are we in agreement that the land should be called Pandora?

 

[WDWGoof07]

Then please elaborate on what exactly "Disney fun" means. My point is that there was little in Indiana Jones to suggest it would make a good theme park attraction, yet it did anyway. You have the benefit of hindsight having see how well it worked out. We have no idea what they will do with Avatar, and as such, it's much too early to draw any kind of conclusion.

What part was unclear?

The difference is that, while Indiana Jones remains fun and adventurous throughout the series, Avatar takes itself too seriously, is devoid of any humor, and has the fun sapped out of it by Cameron's heavy-handed moralizing.

I disagree wholeheartedly with the assessment that there is little in Indiana Jones to suggest it would work in a theme park. I also think that, in concept at least, there is plenty of theme park potential in Avatar - the monsters, Hometree, and the human fort could be starting points for good attractions. I haven't written off this land completely - in fact, I've been clear that I want to keep an open mind.

 

[wdwmagic]

When I told her about the original plan for Beastly Kingdomme, she got really excited at that idea.

For those who think I may have influenced her reactions, you obviously don't have children. I even tried to sound excited about the idea. She wasn't buying it.

Just out of interest, what was your description of the original plan for BK?

 

[stitchcastle]

From the mouths of babes...

My 10 year-old daughter loves the parks and is constantly asking when we'll go again. She's also a little bit of a sci-fi geek: loves Star Wars, the Clone Wars series, watches Doctor Who (when the episodes are appropriate)

Have you shown her "A Christmas Carol"?

Now Doctor Who would be an incredible acquisition for Disney if you wanna talk about endless possibilities. That's what that show is about.

 

[imagineer boy]

If Disney thinks this will be as successful as WWOHP then they are dead wrong. Harry Potter is timeless and will last throughout the ages. Avatar made a lot of money yes, but is not timeless and soon people will look back and wonder why it made so much money. Heck, people are doing that right now!

 

[Crazy Harry]

Actually, Ellen's Energy Adventure has little to do with conservation. If anything, it praises the use of fossil fuels, as Bill goes on about renewable resources and how they aren't feasible at this point in time. The whole story is about where the energy came from and how we use it... Not how we need to change.

Isn't it true that alternate energy sources aren't yet completely feasible, but that the fact that they are being used and improved upon shows a mindset of conservation with renewable and green energy sources.

Nevertheless, perhaps Wall-E is a better example. The theme is robots and space, but the message is conservation of the earth. Does that mean it should be included in AK?...