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Number_6

Number_6

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Wilt Dasney said:
I agree. If he or his staff are still coaching with a chip on their shoulders, it's one they put there and choose to keep there.
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Exactly. On the other hand, there are players, especially the rookies or free agents that signed on this season, that might have known nothing about the tapes being used. The people that are lumping all of them into the "cheaters" group are not being given a fair deal. Those guys should play with a chip on their shoulders. One of the things that really ticked me off when I went to the Bills/Pats game was when a group of Bills fans that weren't even sitting in our section came down before the game and started giving my son a hard time about being a Patriots fan. He's 8 years old for crying out loud. "Hey, the Patriots are cheaters, they're not a good role model for you. You shouldn't be rooting for them." The worse one was the guy behind us in line at one point for the restrooms. He was swearing at the Pats fans and telling them that they don't have the proper equipment to be using the men's room and to all go to the women's room. I told him to watch his mouth because my son wasn't the only kid present. He almost apologized, then realized I was wearing a Patriots jacket and started in on me. He was drunk, which was one of the only reasons I didn't deck him where he stood. If I had the fan hotline number with me, though, I would have been able to have him removed from the stadium for the way he was acting. They have a really good policy about that sort of thing.
 
Flower'sChild

Flower'sChild

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Number_6 said:
Exactly. On the other hand, there are players, especially the rookies or free agents that signed on this season, that might have known nothing about the tapes being used. The people that are lumping all of them into the "cheaters" group are not being given a fair deal. Those guys should play with a chip on their shoulders. One of the things that really ticked me off when I went to the Bills/Pats game was when a group of Bills fans that weren't even sitting in our section came down before the game and started giving my son a hard time about being a Patriots fan. He's 8 years old for crying out loud. "Hey, the Patriots are cheaters, they're not a good role model for you. You shouldn't be rooting for them." The worse one was the guy behind us in line at one point for the restrooms. He was swearing at the Pats fans and telling them that they don't have the proper equipment to be using the men's room and to all go to the women's room. I told him to watch his mouth because my son wasn't the only kid present. He almost apologized, then realized I was wearing a Patriots jacket and started in on me. He was drunk, which was one of the only reasons I didn't deck him where he stood. If I had the fan hotline number with me, though, I would have been able to have him removed from the stadium for the way he was acting. They have a really good policy about that sort of thing.
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Was this at Buffalo ?
 
WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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Flower'sChild said:
Was this at Buffalo ?
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Yeah, I don't think Pats fans would be yelling and swearing at other Pats fans...hmm...on second thought...maybe they would :lol:

EDIT: By the way Bryan...Patriot Place is gonna be HUGE! A few stores are in but the Patriots Hall of Fame and the rest of it hasn't been completed yet.
 
SpongeScott

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mrerk said:
I don't think I will change anyones mind here, but I figured I would throw in my 2 cents.



The whole Spygate thing has absolutely nothing to do with what the Pats have done this year. They got caught in the 1st half of the 1st game of the season and never had an opportunity to use the tape.



This is pro football, not Pop Warner. If you want to keep the other team from scoring, stop them. If ever there was opportunity for running up the score, just wait 'til the Jets next week and Miami the week after. We all know how Belichik feels about Mangini. And Shula's comments, even though he later backed off, were just stupid. You don't hear any of the opposing coaches or players complaining, just the media and some fans.



It is absolutely because of the Jets game. Bill is just giving the NFL and the rest of the league a big FU. This man has eaten, breathed and slept football his entire adult life. To have his integrity questioned was a major blow to him. He is just showing the rest of the league he doesn't need to cheat to win. They didn't decide to become the "bad boys of the league". The NFL did that for them by singling them out for something every team does and continues to do.

BTW, is this the same Ravens team we played last week? (losing 44-7 as I type this) This is more like the team we were expecting.
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You're right....you didn't change my mind. :animwink:
 
mousefan1972

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mrerk said:
I don't think I will change anyones mind here, but I figured I would throw in my 2 cents.



The whole Spygate thing has absolutely nothing to do with what the Pats have done this year. They got caught in the 1st half of the 1st game of the season and never had an opportunity to use the tape.



This is pro football, not Pop Warner. If you want to keep the other team from scoring, stop them. If ever there was opportunity for running up the score, just wait 'til the Jets next week and Miami the week after. We all know how Belichik feels about Mangini. And Shula's comments, even though he later backed off, were just stupid. You don't hear any of the opposing coaches or players complaining, just the media and some fans.



It is absolutely because of the Jets game. Bill is just giving the NFL and the rest of the league a big FU. This man has eaten, breathed and slept football his entire adult life. To have his integrity questioned was a major blow to him. He is just showing the rest of the league he doesn't need to cheat to win. They didn't decide to become the "bad boys of the league". The NFL did that for them by singling them out for something every team does and continues to do.

BTW, is this the same Ravens team we played last week? (losing 44-7 as I type this) This is more like the team we were expecting.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. ;)
 
WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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13-0...

With the Jets, Miami, and the Giants...I don't foresee the Patriots coming away with anything less than 15-1. Most likely 16-0...but you never know with those G-men which team you're going to get.
 
WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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BTW...Congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks, Green Bay Packers, and Indianapolis Colts for clinching this week, and to the Patriots for getting their first round bye.

Nice to have you in good company with the New England Patriots and the Dallas Cowboys.
 
WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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Did anybody catch that Fleaflicker the Pats had...where Brady tossed the ball to Randy Moss and he dropped it...picked it up, threw it BACK to Brady...and then Brady threw it down the field to Gaffney for the touchdown.

I don't think that play would've worked if Moss didn't drop the ball. Think about it. By Moss dropping the ball...the players may have thought it was an incomplete pass and let up a little...and that drop may have given Gaffney an extra step on the safety.
 
WildcatDen

WildcatDen

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mrerk said:
BTW, is this the same Ravens team we played last week? (losing 44-7 as I type this) This is more like the team we were expecting.
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It's called matchups. Some teams matchup better against others. Just the way it works.

I have to give credit to the Pats. I will be very suprised if they do not get through the regular season undefeated now. Not much left in the way. Of course it would be sweet irony if the Dolphins some how managed the upset.

It will be interesting to see who they get in the AFC Championship game. A rematch against the Colts would be worth watching, I think.

And how about them Bengals!!! W00T!!!


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WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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WTH!!!!

That Patriots/Dolphins game has now been moved.

Has any team this year had as many schedule changes as the Patriots?!?!?

2 Flex Schedule moves to put them on Sunday night...before a Monday night game. Now, because they have used up their primetime slots...they moved the game from 1:00 to the 4:00 slot and the week after is a Saturday game. Ridiculous.
 
Number_6

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Flower'sChild said:
Was this at Buffalo ?
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Yeah, I live in Buffalo now and took my son to the game even though it got moved to Sunday night. It was the third time I had gotten tickets for a Patriots game that either had it's time changed or one playoff game that we didn't know what time it would be played until they had the teams set for the playoffs. Those two had been night games as well and I wasn't going to tell him he couldn't go a third time. Overall, it was a lot of fun, it's just too bad that there were a few people that had to act up like that.
 
mousefan1972

mousefan1972

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WDWFREAK53 said:
WTH!!!!

That Patriots/Dolphins game has now been moved.

Has any team this year had as many schedule changes as the Patriots?!?!?

2 Flex Schedule moves to put them on Sunday night...before a Monday night game. Now, because they have used up their primetime slots...they moved the game from 1:00 to the 4:00 slot and the week after is a Saturday game. Ridiculous.
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Well, it got me off the hook... my Dad and my Uncle wanted to go the game, and I was chosen for the dubious task of trying to find them tickets, but now with the time change, my uncle can't go. Phew...
 
Flower'sChild

Flower'sChild

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Number_6 said:
Yeah, I live in Buffalo now and took my son to the game even though it got moved to Sunday night. It was the third time I had gotten tickets for a Patriots game that either had it's time changed or one playoff game that we didn't know what time it would be played until they had the teams set for the playoffs. Those two had been night games as well and I wasn't going to tell him he couldn't go a third time. Overall, it was a lot of fun, it's just too bad that there were a few people that had to act up like that.
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For some reason (not sure why lol) I was thinking this game you went to was in New England and when I was reading your post you said something about when that guy found out you are a New England and I was thinking " if it's at New England why was he surprised " so I put 2 and 2 together and figure maybe it was not at New England after all :p
 
mrerk

mrerk

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Number_6 said:
In all fairness, his integrity deserved to be called into question at that point. Major blow or not, he screwed up, cheated and got caught. Punishments were doled out and he went on to show that he doesn't need to use underhanded methods to crush the opposition. Hell, it seems to have worked out better not using tapes.
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I guess it depends on your point of view. Even Bill is not arrogant enough to continue to do something he was warned against while playing 15 minutes from the league HQ. He obviously felt he was in the right. The league felt otherwise and punished him, the Krafts and the team. Since he refuses to talk about it I guess we will never really know what he was thinking.
 
WDWFREAK53

WDWFREAK53

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mrerk said:
I guess it depends on your point of view. Even Bill is not arrogant enough to continue to do something he was warned against while playing 15 minutes from the league HQ. He obviously felt he was in the right. The league felt otherwise and punished him, the Krafts and the team. Since he refuses to talk about it I guess we will never really know what he was thinking.
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From what I understand...it wasn't wrong that he was filming the calls...it was the location he was in while he was filming them.
 

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