Iakona
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Funny, even the Ravens were impressed how he jumped up after every hit. Guess you wouldn't want a QB like Brady on your team would you?
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Funny, even the Ravens were impressed how he jumped up after every hit. Guess you wouldn't want a QB like Brady on your team would you?
SpongeScott
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I have respected and kinda, sorta liked the Pats--until this season. I like Brady because he went to Michigan and I've always looked at the team as having a lot of class and doing things the right way.
However, this season has changed it for me because of the cheating incident. Yeah, other teams might be doing it too, but the Pats are the ones who got caught. I wasn't impressed.
And the other issue is the running up of the score. Say what you want, but they did it against Dallas, Washington, and maybe the Buffalo game. When you're throwing on 4th down with a 35 point lead or you're punching in a score when you've already got the game in hand with 15 seconds left to play, in my opinion, you're running it up. I've never liked it and never will. If my teams ever do something like that, I'll be sorely disappointed. You can win decisively with class and I haven't seen that out of New England this year, save for a few games.
Are they better than anyone else in the league? Absolutely, but that's not why I'm rooting against them now. I'm just disappointed in the approach this season. It's like they've decided to be the bad boys of the league. Is it because of the Jets game?
WildcatDen
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Funny, even the Ravens were impressed how he jumped up after every hit. Guess you wouldn't want a QB like Brady on your team would you?
Uhhhh, nope I would not. To play for our team you have to be awfully good since our defense bites the weanie.
If Carson played on the Pansies, then they would be better. Some guys luck out in their draft position. The Pats are a good team, very good. Miss whiner, uh brady, is a very good QB and an exceptional whiner, maybe the best ever (whiner that is).
Scott, I too first liked Brady, being a Michigan football fan, but that was a long time ago. Kinda like rottingburger at poopsburgh. He played college ball down the street at Miami and I was a fan. Once he signed on with the stinkers, he is the enima.
WDWFREAK53
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Whuh?
Brady leads the league in touchdowns, is leading a team to a perfect record, stepped it up and has more superbowl rings than any current quarterback...and will probably break most records for a QB. Whuh? How is he not "awfully good?"
SpongeScott
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Is there a game tonight on the NFL Network?
WDWFREAK53
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Yes, Chicago @ Washington.
Iakona
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Not to mention the fact that despite never having great receivers (until this year) he still won 3 SuperBowls. How many does the great Carson.
Number_6
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Just curious, are you actually capable of using the proper names of players and teams, or is your brain just wired to use insulting jargon at all times? I mean, I don't really like Pittsburgh or Rothlisberger or even the Ravens, but I'll still put the names up properly. It just sometimes makes your posts a little annoying to read having to translate everything over to proper names and terms.
WildcatDen
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Sorry, my education serves me well most times, but definitely not when conversing about sports franchises I despise.
Call it a mild case or tourettes.I will make every attempt to improve my 'jargon' so that "he who can count to 6" will be happy. :animwink:
Now, all things being equal, defense wins Championships. The Pats have a super D that seems to always make a play when they have to have it. This makes it easier on the offense. It is not that I do not respect Brady. I do think he is in the top 5 quarterbacks currently in the League. I just think, ability wise, Carson is better.
WDWFREAK53
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Sorry, my education serves me well most times, but definitely not when conversing about sports franchises I despise.
I will make every attempt to improve my 'jargon' so that "he who can count to 6" will be happy. :animwink:
Now, all things being equal, defense wins Championships. The Pats have a super D that seems to always make a play when they have to have it. This makes it easier on the offense. It is not that I do not respect Brady. I do think he is in the top 5 quarterbacks currently in the League. I just think, ability wise, Carson is better.
The Bengals are 4-8. How can you possibly say that Carson is a better QB than a QB that has led it's team perfectly through 12 games? I don't buy the "Brady has better receivers" line...because I believe one Chad Johnson is on the Bengals.
The Patriots defense may be better...but when it's lacking, the offense more than makes up for it. That is what playmakers do. If a part of the team is failing...the rest of the team makes up for it. The offense has scored 291 points...that's 24 points a game vs. the 39 points a game that the Brady bunch puts up. That is a 15 point difference...PER GAME!
Even switching the roles...I think Brady would perform better with the Bengals than Palmer would with the Patriots. It's not just about the weapons because Brady, until this year, didn't have any "breakthrough go-to ace" receivers. His weapon is his brain...and his ability to feel for the pocket and make plays happen even when they're not there.
Again, not taking anything away from Carson Palmer...but comparing the two QB's I have to go with the QB that has proved himself time and time again.
CaptainMichael
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er...there's no comparison, Brady > Palmer
WildcatDen
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So, Marino was a sub par QB then? Tarkington? Kelly? I guess what I am saying is that the Pats, most likely, would have still won the Superbowls they did if Carson was at the helm. There are very few quanrterbacks you can say that about. I actually feel bad that Carson is stuck here.
Go Steelers!
WDWFREAK53
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No, Marino was not sub par. Marino broke all kinds of records. Marino was a great quarterback regardless of the big game. No, if Drew Bledsoe was at the helm, they would NOT have won the Superbowls that they did.
No way. Look at those games...every one of them was close. Do you really think Bledsoe would've been able to drive the Patriots down the field with under 2 minutes left to win the game? I highly doubt it.
You make it seem as if the team was full of all stars...remember, we were MAJOR underdogs against St. Louis.
I understand the hatred towards them...but to take away Brady's credibility is just wrong.
WildcatDen
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Wow, what a firestorm. I think the key here is that the Patriots are a damn good team. All the parts work and I suppose I will give credit to the coaching staff for putting together the team. Even when a seed like Moss is introduced, it works. The same can be said about Cory Dillon a few years back. Yes, I think Brady is a top QB. It is easier to say that when you are on a great team. My top 5 this year - Favre, Manning, Palmer, Brady, and Romo. My overall top 5 - Tarkington, Marino, Elway, Montana, and Steve Young/Brady/Manning.
A bad example of a quanterback being on the right team is the Ravens Superbowl year. I honestly cannot remember his name. I guess one QB I would consider over rated in recent history is Aikman. He reaped the rewards of having a super supporting cast.
Now, you say that Brady has not had super stars to through to, well, in most cases that may work in the good times, but in the bad times, the ego's get in the way. Witness this year's loss to the Patriots. The Bengal's are driving right before half and Chad/Carson have a disconnect. The Bengal's did not recover that game and really have not recovered yet. Chad has been absent until a few games ago (3 TD game against the Titans). That is what made the niners so special. Superstar receivers who were team players.
Bottom line, Bengal's stink. Wildcats in for a tough year in hoops. Best thing to do is root against the Pats.
Al in good fun Brian, all in good fun.
A bad example of a quanterback being on the right team is the Ravens Superbowl year. I honestly cannot remember his name. I guess one QB I would consider over rated in recent history is Aikman. He reaped the rewards of having a super supporting cast.
Now, you say that Brady has not had super stars to through to, well, in most cases that may work in the good times, but in the bad times, the ego's get in the way. Witness this year's loss to the Patriots. The Bengal's are driving right before half and Chad/Carson have a disconnect. The Bengal's did not recover that game and really have not recovered yet. Chad has been absent until a few games ago (3 TD game against the Titans). That is what made the niners so special. Superstar receivers who were team players.
Bottom line, Bengal's stink. Wildcats in for a tough year in hoops. Best thing to do is root against the Pats.
Al in good fun Brian, all in good fun.
WildcatDen
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WDWFREAK53
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Isn't it Carson Palmer's job to LEAD the team and not let his receivers act out of line? That is a sign of a bad QB right there. Drew Bledsoe was the same way. Brady gets in the faces of his receivers if they do something wrong...and they respect him. Even Moss.
Like you said, Dillon and Moss both had huge ego's before coming to the Patriots...and it's not just the coaching staff that "put them in check," it was the respect for the rest of the team...and the respect of their leaders. The guys they look for to allow them to make the plays. Tom Brady is that guy.
Like you said, Dillon and Moss both had huge ego's before coming to the Patriots...and it's not just the coaching staff that "put them in check," it was the respect for the rest of the team...and the respect of their leaders. The guys they look for to allow them to make the plays. Tom Brady is that guy.
WDWFREAK53
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OH, and the Bengals DO NOT STINK! They are just immature. They have the talent...they just don't know how to jive.
Number_6
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WildcatDen
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Thye are hurting on the Defensive side of the ball. It kinda bites when all of your recent draft picks are either suspended or hurt. :lookaroun A linbacking corps with Pollack and Thurman sounds so much better than the current crop.
I will say this one last time. Pure talent wise, IMO Carson is better than Brady. Period.
QB Savvy, leadership and just plain guts, Brady is much better, then again, he has been in the league longer.
Whining, Brady again is much better. I may like him better if I did not see him whining to the officials so often.
SpongeScott
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The QB was Trent Dilfer. The worst QB ever to "win" a Super Bowl.
And, it's Tarkenton, not Tarkington. Definitely one of the best QB's in NFL history.