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[SpongeScott]

any word on Chad Johnson?

I read somewhere that he should be okay for Sunday.

 

[Iakona]

I read somewhere that he should be okay for Sunday.

That's good. Too many devastating and potentially devastating hits in sports this year.

 

[WildcatDen]

Yes, Chad looks to be okay. Reports saying he may play against the Raisons.

With future jail bird, oh, I mean Chris Henry coming back, maybe the offense can stretch the field and open up some avenues for Chad and TJ.

Speaking of Chad, there is a poll on the local SportsTalk radio (1530 Homer) asking people's opinion on if Chad was faking or not. Get this, only 52% thought he was being legit.

I will say that the hit he took in the first quarter looked a lot worse.

How about them Steelers last night. Man I hate that team . . . but WOW. Looks like a three team race for the AFC Crown.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Opie & Anthony are saying that Tom Brady is out for 4 games because he failed a drug test. The "A" test came back positive...and they made him take the "B" test and it also came back positive for an illegal supplement.

Funny though...they said it came from the Associated Press...but they say nothing...and nobody but O&A are reporting it at this time :lol:

Not for nothing...but Brady doesn't exactly scream "Roid User" :lol:

Methinks this is crapola in a handbag Much like the death of the Mayor.

 

[Hrudey3032]

Well the NFL cleared the Colts and CBS admitted it was them who caused the problem.The reason Mr.Kraft complained is because he heard it on the TV in his suite.Look the Pats won and the NFL cleared the Colts so just move on and look forward to a rematch in Foxborough in Jan!!
I also believe that while Belicheck was caught I doubt he needs help being the best coach in NFL today
BTW what a heck of a game even tho the Colts lost I must say that was like watching Ali-Frazier out there
2 super heavyweights that are the class of the league

 

[WDWFREAK53]

I must say that was like watching Ali-Frazier out there
2 super heavyweights that are the class of the league

Great comparison...nice job! :sohappy:

No matter what way it turned out...it was the best game of the season.

 

[DisneyJill]

Ahh, it's not just us (the fans). The President of the New England Patriots, Jonathan Kraft, went to the NFL Security official at the game. Multiple teams have reported this. No sour grapes, just applying the same standard. If they cheat they should get punished.
Just tobe clear; I may be sick of seeing Peyton Manning on every freaking commercial, but he is a GREAT QB. The Colts are a Great team. Dungy is a Great coach.
Bill Polian is a .....:fork:. He has used his position on the Competition Comm. to try and change the rules and influence officials to favor his team. He has made deliberate comments in the press before a Pats/Colts playoff game specifically to influence their calls. No need to convince anyone in New England that certain members of the Colts organization will do anything to win; Polian has proven it.

I really don't mind the bad guy image and yes everyone can jump on the Hate the pats bandwagon, bon't blame us when we see an opportunity to take a shot at someone that took one at us.

I absolutely don't agree with that, but then...you expected that, right? Anyhoo...if you've ever been to a game in the RCA Dome, you know how the sound is...it just...is. Loud and uneven and reverberating (sp?). They don't pipe it in. I swear. I heard one of the commentators mention how this crowd knows to shut up when Peyton is calling plays, as well...is that cheating? Nah...just smart fans. The one thing that really disappointed me about the game was how Belichick acted when they won. I felt like he was celebrating like it was the Super Bowl. And then he barely even spoke to Dungy when the game was over? You can lose gracefully, but you can also win gracefully and I don't think he did that. And I would have thought that about anyone who acted that way-not just Belichick and not because we lost. It was a good game-the Colts played great, but when it came down to it, the Pats played greater. Hopefully, we'll meet again this season, and can look forward to another great game between the two best teams in the league.

 

[SpongeScott]

No matter what way it turned out...it was the best game of the season.

Absolutely. And the game lived up to the hype.

Opie & Anthony are saying that Tom Brady is out for 4 games because he failed a drug test. The "A" test came back positive...and they made him take the "B" test and it also came back positive for an illegal supplement.

Funny though...they said it came from the Associated Press...but they say nothing...and nobody but O&A are reporting it at this time :lol:

Not for nothing...but Brady doesn't exactly scream "Roid User" :lol:

Methinks this is crapola in a handbag Much like the death of the Mayor.

You're right--this is crapola. I don't believe any of it.

The one thing that really disappointed me about the game was how Belichick acted when they won. I felt like he was celebrating like it was the Super Bowl. And then he barely even spoke to Dungy when the game was over? You can lose gracefully, but you can also win gracefully and I don't think he did that. And I would have thought that about anyone who acted that way-not just Belichick and not because we lost.

Does he do anything gracefully? Iakona, Brian, and others can probably answer this way better than me, but do his players like him as a person or do they think he's an SOB but a great coach? You know, he can outcoach anybody, but I'm not having him over dinner in the offseason. :shrug:

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Absolutely. And the game lived up to the hype.

You're right--this is crapola. I don't believe any of it.

Does he do anything gracefully? Iakona, Brian, and others can probably answer this way better than me, but do his players like him as a person or do they think he's an SOB but a great coach? You know, he can outcoach anybody, but I'm not having him over dinner in the offseason. :shrug:

He's definitely not someone you want as a friend. He's good at what he does...and that's about it...he doesn't make friends wherever he goes. His players respect him as a coach. We, as fans, respect him as a coach...but I, for one, wouldn't run out to meet him.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

A CBS Cameraman said that he had a headache after being in the stadium for an hour because it was so loud...and an official told him that they mic the crowd and put it through the speaker system. This was a CBS worker...not saying it's true...but that's what he said on the Today show.

Also...The coach/QB headset didn't work for the Patriots. They went strictly to signals and the wristband.

It could just be a coincidence...but it would be a big one.

 

[WildcatDen]

, he can outcoach anybody, :shrug:

Let us not get ahead of ourselves. Even Barry Switzer won at Dallas. Some times it is a system and ownership that a coach inherits that makes the teams success. I do not recall Bellycheck's teams in Cleveland being anything special.

I also think that the ownership issue is one reason the Bengal's may never get over the hump.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Let us not get ahead of ourselves. Even Barry Switzer won at Dallas. Some times it is a system and ownership that a coach inherits that makes the teams success. I do not recall Bellycheck's teams in Cleveland being anything special.

I also think that the ownership issue is one reason the Bengal's may never get over the hump.

Umm...his starting quarterback goes out in game 2...the team goes on to win the SuperBowl being heavily UNfavored throughout the season and the entire postseason. That's great coaching.

Don't take anything away from him as a coach. Ethics...fine...being a "good guy" fine...don't stoop to the level of him not being a great coach.

Not one player on that team was even known...it was the Rockies of Football. He brought them together as a machine...not single players.

 

[SpongeScott]

A CBS Cameraman said that he had a headache after being in the stadium for an hour because it was so loud...and an official told him that they mic the crowd and put it through the speaker system. This was a CBS worker...not saying it's true...but that's what he said on the Today show.

Also...The coach/QB headset didn't work for the Patriots. They went strictly to signals and the wristband.

It could just be a coincidence...but it would be a big one.

Did the Colts turn off their headsets? That's the rule--one team loses their communications, the other has to go down too.

Brian, you mentioned yesterday about playing football in the elements and not inside, this is another one I would gripe about--electronic communication with players in the game. Players in the past never had this "luxury" and they did just fine. If we're gonna throw them out in the snow and rain, let's make them get plays into the huddle the old-fashioned way. The former players did just fine.

And don't get me started on instant replay....:animwink:

 

[SpongeScott]

Umm...his starting quarterback goes out in game 2...the team goes on to win the SuperBowl being heavily UNfavored throughout the season and the entire postseason. That's great coaching.

Don't take anything away from him as a coach. Ethics...fine...being a "good guy" fine...don't stoop to the level of him not being a great coach.

Not one player on that team was even known...it was the Rockies of Football. He brought them together as a machine...not single players.

Correct. I don't like him, but I'll acknowledge him as a great coach.

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Did the Colts turn off their headsets? That's the rule--one team loses their communications, the other has to go down too.

Brian, you mentioned yesterday about playing football in the elements and not inside, this is another one I would gripe about--electronic communication with players in the game. Players in the past never had this "luxury" and they did just fine. If we're gonna throw them out in the snow and rain, let's make them get plays into the huddle the old-fashioned way. The former players did just fine.

And don't get me started on instant replay....:animwink:

I completely agree! I do like the idea of instant replay because, unlike baseball, one play can really make or break an entire game. Momentum is key in football so I do like the instant replay.

I hate the electronic communication though. It kinda takes the brain out of the quarterback.

 

[WildcatDen]

Stoop?

I am standing quite upright when I say his record with the Browns (prior to any expansion team excuse) was 36-44. Now, I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night > 36-44 does not a Great Coach make.

IMO, he came back to a team just 4 years after a SuperBowl and resurrected a Parcel's system with some of the components still in place.

I also do not believe the Patriots win that first SuperBowl with Bledsoe at the helm. Brady is the near perfect quarterback for that system.

Great Team - YES.

Great Coach - :shrug:

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Stoop?

I am standing quite upright when I say his record with the Browns (prior to any expansion team excuse) was 36-44. Now, I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night > 36-44 does not a Great Coach make.

IMO, he came back to a team just 4 years after a SuperBowl and resurrected a Parcel's system with some of the components still in place.

I also do not believe the Patriots win that first SuperBowl with Bledsoe at the helm. Brady is the near perfect quarterback for that system.

Great Team - YES.

Great Coach - :shrug:

Maybe he didn't "jive" with the Browns. Maybe he didn't have the experience...maybe it just wasn't the right environment.

Well, you could say that about any "great coach"
Maybe Shula wasn't a great coach...maybe it was all the team.
Maybe Joe Torre isn't a great coach...afterall...he was coaching an All-Star team.
How about Terry Francona? Great coach?
Ditka? Parcells? Marty? Phil Jackson?

How about this one...Romeo Crennel. Great coach?

How many of the "great" coaches out there have won 3 SuperBowls...and, of those coaches, what makes them great?

 

[SpongeScott]

Maybe he didn't "jive" with the Browns. Maybe he didn't have the experience...maybe it just wasn't the right environment.

Well, you could say that about any "great coach"
Maybe Shula wasn't a great coach...maybe it was all the team.
Maybe Joe Torre isn't a great coach...afterall...he was coaching an All-Star team.
How about Terry Francona? Great coach?
Ditka? Parcells? Marty? Phil Jackson?

How about this one...Romeo Crennel. Great coach?

How many of the "great" coaches out there have won 3 SuperBowls...and, of those coaches, what makes them great?

Jon Gruden? :lookaroun

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:

 

[WildcatDen]

Hey Brian. I want to go on record as saying I respect the man's ability to coach, but in my book, Professional coaches are motivators (some would say baby sitters). Often times it is the Offensive and Defensive coordinators who run each respective part of the team. I just do not put a lot of stock in the Pro game.

College coaches on the other hand are a different story. Not only are they motivators, they are often father's to these kids, recruiters, mentors, etc. A college coach, who has his roster turn over every 3 to 4 years and continues to win is a GREAT Coach.

So, who IMO is a great coach - Paterno, Shembeckler (sp?), Woody Hayes, Tom Osborne, Bear Bryant. In hoops - Wooden, Rupp, Coach K, Dean Smith, Denny Crum.

For Pro Football, I look at someone who has done it with various teams or over a long span with more peaks than valley's, such as Bud Grant, Tom Landry, that guy (nice eh?) who led the 49rs = Bill something or other, Don Shula, Parcells :lookaroun

 

[Iakona]

I absolutely don't agree with that, but then...you expected that, right? Anyhoo...if you've ever been to a game in the RCA Dome, you know how the sound is...it just...is. Loud and uneven and reverberating (sp?). They don't pipe it in. I swear. I heard one of the commentators mention how this crowd knows to shut up when Peyton is calling plays, as well...is that cheating? Nah...just smart fans.

You don't agree that Polian is a cheater or that the your QB, coach and team are great?
That sound was not natural. The immediate stop to the crowd noise I have no issue with. Pats fans do the the same. As Brian mentions in one of his posts the suspicion is that they take the crowd noise and amplify and pipe through. No idea if is possible, but the Pats are not the only ones to have complained.

The one thing that really disappointed me about the game was how Belichick acted when they won. I felt like he was celebrating like it was the Super Bowl. And then he barely even spoke to Dungy when the game was over? You can lose gracefully, but you can also win gracefully and I don't think he did that. And I would have thought that about anyone who acted that way-not just Belichick and not because we lost.

Why would BB be friendly towards someone that compared him to Barry Bonds? There is also such a thing as not having to comment on someone when everyone else is piling on.

It was a good game-the Colts played great, but when it came down to it, the Pats played greater. Hopefully, we'll meet again this season, and can look forward to another great game between the two best teams in the league.

Absolutley, in Foxboro during a snow storm! Maybe we'll import some snowmaking machines from the ski areas?

Does he do anything gracefully? Iakona, Brian, and others can probably answer this way better than me, but do his players like him as a person or do they think he's an SOB but a great coach? You know, he can outcoach anybody, but I'm not having him over dinner in the offseason. :shrug:

He doesn't like Dungy. Dungy took shots at him and he remembers. Yet BB has never said a negative word about the COlts or Dungy.
From what is I can see, his players love playing for him. beyond that, he is personable on the local sports talk station, even funny.

Let us not get ahead of ourselves. Even Barry Switzer won at Dallas. Some times it is a system and ownership that a coach inherits that makes the teams success. I do not recall Bellycheck's teams in Cleveland being anything special.
I also think that the ownership issue is one reason the Bengal's may never get over the hump.

How many Super Bowls did Parcells win without BB as defensive coordinator?

Umm...his starting quarterback goes out in game 2...the team goes on to win the SuperBowl being heavily UNfavored throughout the season and the entire postseason. That's great coaching.

Don't take anything away from him as a coach. Ethics...fine...being a "good guy" fine...don't stoop to the level of him not being a great coach.

Not one player on that team was even known...it was the Rockies of Football. He brought them together as a machine...not single players.

Agreed and no one had any clue that Brady would be this good (except maybe BB).

Did the Colts turn off their headsets? That's the rule--one team loses their communications, the other has to go down too.
Brian, you mentioned yesterday about playing football in the elements and not inside, this is another one I would gripe about--electronic communication with players in the game. Players in the past never had this "luxury" and they did just fine. If we're gonna throw them out in the snow and rain, let's make them get plays into the huddle the old-fashioned way. The former players did just fine.
And don't get me started on instant replay....:animwink:

The Colts did not have to shut theirs off per NFL rules. That only applies to Sideline to Box communications.