Are you ready for some Football?....:):)

SpongeScott

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Hehe, ok ok ok...I believe it now :lol:

But, honestly...think of it this way. Do you take a knee for the entire 2nd half? Is that doing any justice to the fans? Imagine if you bought tickets to a game...(which are NOT cheap)...and you go and for half the game the team is taking a knee. That's not exactly going to keep getting fans in the seats.

This is what I don't get though. Why is it a bad thing to run up the score?

Put yourself in this position.

Say that you play for the Redskins defense.

Would you rather see the opposition going out and taking a knee for half the game...or playing? In my eyes, if I see a team taking a knee...and not even trying...it's a slap in the face and takes away my self worth. If they go out and they're scoring on me...now I'm getting mad...and I take that score of 52-7 into the locker room...and it drives me to go out and be better. (There is a reason why there isn't a "slaughter rule") At least if they're playing...I can TRY to stop them...if they take a knee...they've taken my reason for being there...right out of the game.

Whether they are scoring points by touchdowns or always going for a field goal...they'd still appear as if they are running up the score.

Remember...this isn't Pop Warner here...these are professionals getting paid to go out and execute and perform the way they are trained. There is no room in battle to feel sorry for the other team...

The media has woken up a monster... Taking a knee would show compassion...monsters don't have compassion.

This monster is scary...and I'm very glad I'm standing behind it rather than in its path.
The only time I've mentioned taking a knee was at the end of the Dallas game when they were up by double digits and 19 seconds were left in the game.

For an entire half of football, you become more run-oriented, mixing in an occasional pass, getting some lesser players some work, and burning the clock, hoping to stay away from injuries. You don't accomplish this by throwing on 4th down. There is such a thing as good sportsmanship, one thing that Belichick will not be accused of.

I don't ever remember one team being this dominant before in the NFL.
 

WDWFREAK53

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The only time I've mentioned taking a knee was at the end of the Dallas game when they were up by double digits and 19 seconds were left in the game.

For an entire half of football, you become more run-oriented, mixing in an occasional pass, getting some lesser players some work, and burning the clock, hoping to stay away from injuries. You don't accomplish this by throwing on 4th down. There is such a thing as good sportsmanship, one thing that Belichick will not be accused of.

I don't ever remember one team being this dominant before in the NFL.

They are professional players. They get paid to play.

I'd much rather see a hard-fought game that comes down to the wire rather than these blowouts but a team should have to step it up to get a closer game.

If a team can't play at the same caliber as another team...the final score should reflect that.

The final score means nothing anyways...the Miami game was a lot closer than the Redskins game and I have no doubt in my mind that Miami would lose to the 'skins. So much crap flew around about the Pats not playing a good defensive team...well, they finally did...and they, once again, proved that they're the best. Right now, they're not technically the best even though they have one more win than Indy...but each team is still batting 1.000 .

To prove what we said earlier in this thread... Is Washington still ranked as high as they were on Saturday?
 

Wilt Dasney

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Bri: Imagine it's the 80s, and the Pats are the laughingstock of football and the big bad 49ers come to Foxboro and build a 42-0 lead by halftime. Then Montana and Rice stay in to play the second half, and Rice is running deep routes in the fourth quarter and the offense is sending three receivers on fourth down. They're not punting, they're not running, they're putting it in the air every play and the TDs just keep coming. YOU know you can't stop 'em. THEY know you can't stop 'em. There's no prayer for a comeback with so much time gone, but they're still acting like it's the middle of the first quarter.

Don't you think at some point you'd get annoyed and think "yeah, yeah, we get it, you're better than us. You're not proving anything at this point"? :shrug:
 

SpongeScott

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Bri: Imagine it's the 80s, and the Pats are the laughingstock of football and the big bad 49ers come to Foxboro and build a 42-0 lead by halftime. Then Montana and Rice stay in to play the second half, and Rice is running deep routes in the fourth quarter and the offense is sending three receivers on fourth down. They're not punting, they're not running, they're putting it in the air every play and the TDs just keep coming. YOU know you can't stop 'em. THEY know you can't stop 'em. There's no prayer for a comeback with so much time gone, but they're still acting like it's the middle of the first quarter.

Don't you think at some point you'd get annoyed and think "yeah, yeah, we get it, you're better than us. You're not proving anything at this point"? :shrug:
And that is why you're my bro.

*high fives*
 

WDWFREAK53

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Bri: Imagine it's the 80s, and the Pats are the laughingstock of football and the big bad 49ers come to Foxboro and build a 42-0 lead by halftime. Then Montana and Rice stay in to play the second half, and Rice is running deep routes in the fourth quarter and the offense is sending three receivers on fourth down. They're not punting, they're not running, they're putting it in the air every play and the TDs just keep coming. YOU know you can't stop 'em. THEY know you can't stop 'em. There's no prayer for a comeback with so much time gone, but they're still acting like it's the middle of the first quarter.

Don't you think at some point you'd get annoyed and think "yeah, yeah, we get it, you're better than us. You're not proving anything at this point"? :shrug:

Sure...we'd say that...but do we expect the teams to stop scoring if they can? That's what they are on the field to do...

Umm...Chicago/Pats SuperBowl. nuff said.

We've been through it.

Was I annoyed when the Yanks destroyed the Sox in the ALCS??? No...we got shelled...it gets to a point where you may stop watching...but I didn't say, "No fair, stop beating up on us!"

I remember when the Pats were 2-14. Not fun times...but, as a kid, I was still in front of the tv and still going to games...

Hmmm...maybe Howie Long is ON TO SOMETHING!!!!

"I asked FOXSports' Howie Long if the Patriots were running up the score on the Redskins. Long's argument was that the Redskins shouldn't have been running their mouths about how New England had never seen defensive backs like theirs and that they wouldn't get blown out like the other teams. Keep your mouth shut and maybe the Patriots would respect the Redskins a little more. That makes some sense to me. "

Hmm...who knows!

(BTW...Washington is no "laughingstock" team)
 

WDWFREAK53

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We'll find out later this week, but no, they will not be as high.

Wanna talk strength of schedule too? :animwink:

:lol: If I hear THAT one more time :lol:

This coming week will be the SuperBowl. Granted, it's not AFC/NFC but it's truly the two best teams in the NFL going at it head to head for 60 minutes.

It won't get better than this week.
 

CaptainMichael

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At last check, I had 73+ points from Drew Brees. :D
It only took 8 weeks for him to finally produce some good fantasy numbers.

Just like I said a couple of weeks ago--they're running up the score. Belichick is ed at the league, he's ed at anyone that questions him, and he's on a mission to stuff down everyone's throat. I don't blame the players because they are simply doing what the coaches tell them to do. That's an interesting piece of video. Run on 4th down and let the chips fall where they may, but throwing? :eek:
The thing is, he should be ed and disappointed in himself. He did it to himself...no one told him to cheat. He's an arrogant pig, and I agree with LT, he has no class.

You don't keep the current league MVP in the game in the 4th quarter when you're blowing a team out. College teams don't even do that (many times last year, LSU sat JaMarcus Russell out in the second half after one possession...we'd even put in the second string defense and below). You don't lay down, but you don't stick it in the other team's face, and in the process, you get your backups some playing time.

The Patriots are making no friends with the way they conduct business and don't be surprised if it comes back to bite them in the butt.



The best thing about the non-stop, vomit-inducing coverage of Boston sports is that the Saints are flying under the radar after destroying San Francisco:king:

I'm starting to hate the Pats more than I hate the Bears, Falclowns, and Kittens (Panthers)....
 

WDWFREAK53

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Here's a question...

Is it better to talk smack and not be able to back it up or not talk smack and let your game play do the talking?

If the Washington Defense was talking crap about the Patriots...why would the Patriots want to show compassion?

Michael...if Chicago was talking smack last year about the Saints...would you want the Saints to go in there and just beat them? Or would you want the Saints to go in there and make the Bears leave with their tails between their legs?

The thing with Bill is...I have a feeling that he KNOWS that Mangini was doing the same thing...but he didn't say a word about it. So, because Mangini lost or was losing...he decided to pull the Trump card. Week after week we hear Mangini coming up with a different excuse why they lost...and now they sit 1-7. Something tells me it wasn't the "cheating" scandal behind the loss. Bill is not happy...and he's taking out his frustrations and the fact that it's "his fault" that his players aren't looking like they earned those victories...out on the field instead of trash talking in the media. I, for one, respect that.

I'm not just saying this because it's the team I root for either...if this were the Colts...I would expect them, if they could, to go out and destroy every team in their path. Saints, Bears, Jets, Dolphins, 49ers...it doesn't matter...their purpose for being on the field is to score as many points as possible. Do it...don't cry when they do.

If your team is not prepared, that's not a reason to take it out on the team that was prepared. This isn't high school, this isn't college, this isn't Pop Warner. This is the NFL...these are paid professionals that are paid to do a job. Go out and score points...Go out and stop the other team from scoring points. If you don't want to go out and do your job...don't expect others to stop doing theirs.

It's not about "Good Sportsmanship." Listen to those players...they respect every team that they face and they go in and prepare for each game the same way...it doesn't matter what team it is. If they're playing a 7-0 Indy team or an 0-7 Miami team...they don't discriminate.
 

CaptainMichael

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So, if BB leaves Brady in the game in the 4th when there is no chance in hell that the opposing team can come back and Brady gets sacked, falls on his arm/shoulder the wrong way, and he's now out for the season....what has he proved? BB's ego will get the best of him.

He was already winning, why not play conservatively?

Also, there's a difference in "beating" a team and purposely and unnecessarily "embarrassing/destroying" a team.


Also, I think the media hyped up the smack talk angle. I recall Gibbs saying that they were probably the biggest underdog going into that game.
 

WDWFREAK53

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So, if BB leaves Brady in the game in the 4th when there is no chance in hell that the opposing team can come back and Brady gets sacked, falls on his arm/shoulder the wrong way, and he's now out for the season....what has he proved? BB's ego will get the best of him.


Matt Cassell came in. They scored a TD with him in.

Can't you say the same about the running game? If you have a guy running up the middle...he is more apt to get hurt than a receiver going down the field with the opportunity to drop a ball or catch a ball.

Actually, for the past two weeks Cassell has come in.
 

Iakona

Member
The thing is, he should be ed and disappointed in himself. He did it to himself...no one told him to cheat. He's an arrogant pig, and I agree with LT, he has no class.
Well, if ayone would know about not having any class it would be a LT.

You don't keep the current league MVP in the game in the 4th quarter when you're blowing a team out.

They didn't. Cassell played and even the 3rd string QB played. Not our fault Washington could not stop them.

The Patriots are making no friends with the way they conduct business and don't be surprised if it comes back to bite them in the butt.

What friends would that be? The friends that tooks shots left and right at the Pats when they were down? BB may have been wrong for what he did, but holier than thou attitude by a lot of the league earned this response from New England. The Pats did not do this to Cleveland. Why? Because the Browns had the good sense to keep their mouths shut and play. They got back fromthe Pats the respect they gave. I guess the Redskins DBs backed up their big talk didn't they?



The best thing about the non-stop, vomit-inducing coverage of Boston sports is that the Saints are flying under the radar after destroying San Francisco:king:
That's OK; everyone in New England was rooting for the Saints against San Fran.


I'm starting to hate the Pats more than I hate the Bears, Falclowns, and Kittens (Panthers)....
No worries. I'd rather be the hated Pats than the Patsies we used to be.

, if BB leaves Brady in the game in the 4th when there is no chance in hell that the opposing team can come back and Brady gets sacked, falls on his arm/shoulder the wrong way, and he's now out for the season....what has he proved? BB's ego will get the best of him.

He was already winning, why not play conservatively?

Same reason they did not play conservatively when Madden said they should have played for a tie in the SuperBowl against the Rams. Not the team's style.

Also, there's a difference in "beating" a team and purposely and unnecessarily "embarrassing/destroying" a team.
The Redskins embarassed themselves when they could not stop our bench.


Also, I think the media hyped up the smack talk angle. I recall Gibbs saying that they were probably the biggest underdog going into that game.

I was swamped at work so I did not pay much attention last week leading up to the game, but if the DBs were mouthing off then they got what they deserved. How is the #5 defense in the league supposed to be the biggest underdog in history. If that was the message he was sending his team all I can say is; whoops, wrong strategy.
 

Number_6

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Matt Cassell came in. They scored a TD with him in.

Can't you say the same about the running game? If you have a guy running up the middle...he is more apt to get hurt than a receiver going down the field with the opportunity to drop a ball or catch a ball.

Actually, for the past two weeks Cassell has come in.

And I seem to recall after Cassell scored that TD, either the next possession or the one after that, they had their third string QB come in. I think his name is Gutierrez. So yeah, they were getting work for their backups. Also, the third string RB made a couple of carries in the 4th Quarter.
 

Wilt Dasney

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Umm...Chicago/Pats SuperBowl. nuff said.

We've been through it.

I had to go back and check the scoring in that game, but it kind of supports my point. The Bears scored 21 points in the third quarter, and got outscored 7-2 in the fourth. That suggests they called off the dogs once things were in hand. Not every blowout is a pile-on.

Was I annoyed when the Yanks destroyed the Sox in the ALCS??? No...we got shelled...it gets to a point where you may stop watching...but I didn't say, "No fair, stop beating up on us!"

I see what you're saying, but I look at baseball differently. You take runs when you can get 'em as often as you can, because the game isn't dictated by the clock and you never know when the other side might have a big inning or 2. There comes a point in a blowout football game where there's no time for a comeback, it's all over and you're just trying to get the clock to all zeros.


Again, just my POV. I don't think running up the score is the worst thing you can do to another team...it's legal and perfectly within the rules...but I don't see how it earns you a lot of respect. :shrug:
 

mousefan1972

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Well, if ayone would know about not having any class it would be a LT.



They didn't. Cassell played and even the 3rd string QB played. Not our fault Washington could not stop them.



What friends would that be? The friends that tooks shots left and right at the Pats when they were down? BB may have been wrong for what he did, but holier than thou attitude by a lot of the league earned this response from New England. The Pats did not do this to Cleveland. Why? Because the Browns had the good sense to keep their mouths shut and play. They got back fromthe Pats the respect they gave. I guess the Redskins DBs backed up their big talk didn't they?




That's OK; everyone in New England was rooting for the Saints against San Fran.



No worries. I'd rather be the hated Pats than the Patsies we used to be.



Same reason they did not play conservatively when Madden said they should have played for a tie in the SuperBowl against the Rams. Not the team's style.


The Redskins embarassed themselves when they could not stop our bench.




I was swamped at work so I did not pay much attention last week leading up to the game, but if the DBs were mouthing off then they got what they deserved. How is the #5 defense in the league supposed to be the biggest underdog in history. If that was the message he was sending his team all I can say is; whoops, wrong strategy.

Are you sure you're not my husband? :lookaroun Because all of the points you made sound very familiar! :lol: Seriously, you guys would get along very well!
We were at the game yesterday, and trust me, the Redskins embarrassed themselves. They didn't need the Pats to do it for them.
 

Iakona

Member
Are you sure you're not my husband? :lookaroun Because all of the points you made sound very familiar! :lol: Seriously, you guys would get along very well!
We were at the game yesterday, and trust me, the Redskins embarrassed themselves. They didn't need the Pats to do it for them.

Pretty sure. My wife would kill me if she found out I had another wife!:eek:
 

stalkingmickey

Active Member
I'm sorry, but when you get paid millions of dollars to play a game why should we care about how the players feel when they get beat up. I am sure the millions helps heal the wounds. Like others have said are these 6 year old pop warner players NOOOOOO. The game is played for 4 quarters for a reason and any team who doesn't put 100% into all 4 quarters shouldn't be on the field. If your feelings as a player are hurt by the final score then you should be in a different proffession.

It is funny how its the Pats fault no other team has given us much of a challenge. Oh well. We are 7-0 and dominating and everyone else who cries foul are just jealous it is not their team.

If we go all season and have to sit our starters for the second half because we are so good, how will they be prepared to play a full game during the playoffs and hopefully the superbowl.

I have played plenty of sports in my time and as a female have played on all male teams. I for one do not expect them to go easy because a girl is on the team nor would I expect them to play at 50% to prevent any hurt feelings. As a former athlete, I did not play any sport and expect the other team to go easy because they are so much better.

When I played softball there was a mercy rule, would it be better to end a game due to a mercy rule? No

"there is no crying in baseball.." (football also)

I forget who, but there was a post and they thought Brady only had 3 TD's

Brady had 306 yards 3 passing td's and 2 running

Drew Breese had 336 yards and 4 passing td's

sorry for any spelling errors spell check is not working for me
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
(psssst...we are 8-0)

Btw...

How many Redskins players are complaining about the score?

Hmm...none of them have said anything. :shrug:
 

SpongeScott

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(psssst...we are 8-0)

Btw...

How many Redskins players are complaining about the score?

Hmm...none of them have said anything. :shrug:
One of their linebackers had plenty to say about it. I saw a long quote that he had made that was read on SportsCenter. He wasn't a happy camper.
 

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