Anyone dislike the volggers content?

[Disstevefan1]

Disney Vloggers are incredibly bad as a whole. Go watch a professional vlog and the differences are immediately apparent.

No one on the Disney vlog scene seems to know what editing is, or that voice overs are your friend. Molly from All Ears is sort of an exception, but there’s other issues there (like the need to generate unique daily content when the source material doesn’t justify it).

I’d certainly rate the All Ears as the top of the pile of the daily vlogs now, but at the same time give it like a C+.

4KWDW and MartinsVidsDotNet are certainly both excellent as are Yesterworld and Defunctland, but none of those are vlogs.

I prefer to watch vloggers who are not compensated influencers.

A blogger who will remain nameless, when Disney had just reopened Disney Springs during the pandemic, made it clear to all the viewers “he had no interest in going to Disney Springs” so don’t ask.

This vlog really stuck out to me. As a viewer, in my opinion, he almost had an obligation to go to Disney Springs to show us what it was like; to keep us informed. Well, this blogger made it clear, there would be no vlog about Disney Springs.

If I remember correctly, it was the the next day, or maybe a day or so passed, this vlogger puts up a vlog attending Disney Springs WITH a special DISNEY guide!

In my mind I imagine after the initial vlog was posted saying there would be no visit to DS, the mouse got on the phone and said, “YOU WILL GO TO DISNEY SPRINGS” here is your guide and compensation.

This vlogger was bought and paid for by the mouse…

 

[The_Jobu]

I prefer to watch vloggers who are not compensated influencers.

A blogger who will remain nameless, when Disney had just reopened Disney Springs during the pandemic, made it clear to all the viewers “he had no interest in going to Disney Springs” so don’t ask.

This vlog really stuck out to me. As a viewer, in my opinion, he almost had an obligation to go to Disney Springs to show us what it was like; to keep us informed. Well, this blogger made it clear, there would be no vlog about Disney Springs.

If I remember correctly, it was the the next day, or maybe a day or so passed, this vlogger puts up a vlog attending Disney Springs WITH a special DISNEY guide!

In my mind I imagine after the initial vlog was posted saying there would be no visit to DS, the mouse got on the phone and said, “YOU WILL GO TO DISNEY SPRINGS” here is your guide and compensation.

This vlogger was bought and paid for by the mouse…

I just assume naturally that they are all compensated. That's why I don't trust their opinions on anything, even if I like the vlogger. I watch to make my own opinion based on their footage.

They're part of the "access media" where your livelihood depends on the good graces of the company you are supposed to critique, of course they'd be compromised.

 

[dreday3]

Trackers (don't watch much anymore) - I really enjoyed when Tim was on his own. Loved his resort tours! Recently (sort of) he did a in depth of Animal Kingdom of things we might not normally notice. It was two parts and it was fantastic! Just like old times.
I just don't think I'm the target demographic at this point. Very cute kid, but I'm not interested in kids, what they pack for kids, the strollers, his first ride, what he's eating. And Jen seems nice, but she doesn't share Tim's natural goofiness.

Mr. Morrow (watch sometimes) - he's very cheerful. Sometimes he sings loudly and I wonder if it's really that loud in person, because stop.

Super-Enthused (don't watch very often) - she's a touch saccharine for me. When her and Mr. Morrow film together, I only watch his.

Honestly, I just really enjoy 4KWDW (main one I watch) - simple walkthroughs with just sounds of parks. Amazing.
Also, for all parks, beaches, tourist spots in cities, not just Disney - CityPedia is a great watch. Again, just walking, no talking.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t watch any vloggers. I just have no interest whatsoever is seeing someone else’s experience, comments, thoughts, or whatever. And I admit I don’t quite understand vloggers popularity.

You understand that is pretty much what we are all doing here, most of the time without the video?

Is it though?

I think a fair share are here to discuss stuff outside the realm of “what I did at magic kingdom today”....more strategic concerns...

you get the nits that want to talk about how many times they went on space mountain today - not to mention the pre/post trip report crowd - but that’s only a certain group as well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I prefer to watch vloggers who are not compensated influencers.

A blogger who will remain nameless, when Disney had just reopened Disney Springs during the pandemic, made it clear to all the viewers “he had no interest in going to Disney Springs” so don’t ask.

This vlog really stuck out to me. As a viewer, in my opinion, he almost had an obligation to go to Disney Springs to show us what it was like; to keep us informed. Well, this blogger made it clear, there would be no vlog about Disney Springs.

If I remember correctly, it was the the next day, or maybe a day or so passed, this vlogger puts up a vlog attending Disney Springs WITH a special DISNEY guide!

In my mind I imagine after the initial vlog was posted saying there would be no visit to DS, the mouse got on the phone and said, “YOU WILL GO TO DISNEY SPRINGS” here is your guide and compensation.

This vlogger was bought and paid for by the mouse…

...yeah...that’s so low rent.
There was one of those “sell out!” Reel big fish counter blog posts on that...

those two would be incapacitated if they lost the blog....my guess.

 

[SirWillow]

I find it very interesting and fascinating to read everyone's thoughts and comments about park vloggers. Especially sort of being one (my main content isn't in park, but talking about having worked at the parks, so a bit different, but I do have in park vlogs when I get to travel)

One thing to realize is that the ones that make money are a small portion. And the handful that make a living off of it- the ones who's names most of you know, are a tiny percentage of them overall. For every one actually making money, there is 20-30 that aren't, and the ones that live off of it- the "names" are 1% or less of the park vloggers overall.

Even at my moderate size of just under 30k subs, I'm estimated to be in the top 5-6% of youtube/ theme park channels. And I'm not that big. It's not an easy field to make money in, not like people think. And yes, you have to worry about taxes, insurance, etc.

I also understand why some don't like it, and why some do. For many, they live vicariously through watching other people. They can't go, so they enjoy experiencing it through others. Some like to hear what it's like at the parks, or what it's like to work at the parks (my focus), some don't. If you don't like it, fine, don't watch it. But I've never understood why some people complain about what others watch and enjoy.

I absolutely do understand if they are being annoying in the parks. If a vlogger is out of line, sticking a camera in your face, or getting in the way of park ops, report them to guest relations. Most of us understand that we're essentially providing free advertising for the parks, and we work with the parks to do it in the best way possible for both (e.g. I always contact a park before I visit to let them know and see what they would like me to do and be aware of). If someone is breaking that contract of understanding, the park should know so they can take action.

There are some that forget we are still guests of the park, not any more special than any other guest, and while we may be providing a "service" to the parks, the truth is they are providing more of a service to us.

 

[SirWillow]

I just assume naturally that they are all compensated. That's why I don't trust their opinions on anything, even if I like the vlogger. I watch to make my own opinion based on their footage.

They're part of the "access media" where your livelihood depends on the good graces of the company you are supposed to critique, of course they'd be compromised.

Just wanted to add on to this. The ones that are "compensated" by the parks are, again, an extremely small number. The ones that get escorts, tours, and special services are a very select few that have large audiences and the parks offer that as a way to reach a large number of people. They do the exact same things for newspapers, tv stations and programs, etc. Do you not trust their opinions as well? Better not watch the Travel Channel, Discovery, etc.

The vast majority of us are not compensated by the parks and pay our own way-admissions, hotels, food, souvenirs, etc. I have had a handful of times when parks have offered tickets or invited me to come for an opening of a new ride/ attraction (e.g. Time Traveler at Silver Dollar City) but those are the rare exceptions.

 

[The_Jobu]

They do the exact same things for newspapers, tv stations and programs, etc. Do you not trust their opinions as well? Better not watch the Travel Channel, Discovery, etc.

Actually, I absolutely do not trust professional critics' opinions, even more than vloggers, ha. Especially for things like movie/tv/video game reviews, but that's a whole other thread for another day.

When it comes to vloggers, like I said, I enjoy their personalities and I use their footage to make my own opinions.

I don't hold it against them, I think it's natural. In fact, I'd do the same if I was offered a free cruise, sneak peek, cupcake preview, etc.

Even if they're not being invited to places, I'm sure they'd like to be, and thus wouldn't want to run afoul of the parks.

Again, no hate on my part. Didn't mean to come across as if I did.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I just assume naturally that they are all compensated. That's why I don't trust their opinions on anything, even if I like the vlogger. I watch to make my own opinion based on their footage.

They're part of the "access media" where your livelihood depends on the good graces of the company you are supposed to critique, of course they'd be compromised.

There are vloggers that specifically state they are not compensated; they pay their own way for everything; this frees them up to give both the good and the bad on things. Some of these vloggers were previously paid Disney influencers and were DROPPED for giving an opinion that was not in line with the Disney guidelines for their influencers.

Allegedly, Influencers who agree to take compensation have to comply with formal documented procedures with instructions what to cover, what products must be covered, etc.

These Disney compensated influencers have a formal "to do list" to execute when they are "on the job".

 

[The_Jobu]

There are vloggers that specifically state they are not compensated; they pay their own way for everything; this frees them up to give both the good and the bad on things. Some of these vloggers were previously paid Disney influencers and were DROPPED for giving an opinion that was not in line with the Disney guidelines for their influencers.

Allegedly, Influencers who agree to take compensation have to comply with formal documented procedures with instructions what to cover, what products must be covered, etc.

These Disney compensated influencers have a formal "to do list" to execute when they are "on the job".

Oh yeah, I know they have to declare when they're comped.

Again, I dont want to come across like I hold this against them, I think it's fine. It's just a rule of thumb for me, even if they're not comped, they'd probably like to be, so it makes sense they'd be complimentary.

Some channels are more blatant about their negative experiences, and it's obvious they'll never be "invited", but I dont automatically take their reviews as "truth" either. A good chunk of their audience is probably people wanting to see Disney ripped a bit. I just watch for the footage and the personalities.

Once again, no shade on my part. I like watching them for who they are, my opinions on their opinions have no effect on that.

 

[Heppenheimer]

I find it very interesting and fascinating to read everyone's thoughts and comments about park vloggers. Especially sort of being one (my main content isn't in park, but talking about having worked at the parks, so a bit different, but I do have in park vlogs when I get to travel)

One thing to realize is that the ones that make money are a small portion. And the handful that make a living off of it- the ones who's names most of you know, are a tiny percentage of them overall. For every one actually making money, there is 20-30 that aren't, and the ones that live off of it- the "names" are 1% or less of the park vloggers overall.

Even at my moderate size of just under 30k subs, I'm estimated to be in the top 5-6% of youtube/ theme park channels. And I'm not that big. It's not an easy field to make money in, not like people think. And yes, you have to worry about taxes, insurance, etc.

I also understand why some don't like it, and why some do. For many, they live vicariously through watching other people. They can't go, so they enjoy experiencing it through others. Some like to hear what it's like at the parks, or what it's like to work at the parks (my focus), some don't. If you don't like it, fine, don't watch it. But I've never understood why some people complain about what others watch and enjoy.

I absolutely do understand if they are being annoying in the parks. If a vlogger is out of line, sticking a camera in your face, or getting in the way of park ops, report them to guest relations. Most of us understand that we're essentially providing free advertising for the parks, and we work with the parks to do it in the best way possible for both (e.g. I always contact a park before I visit to let them know and see what they would like me to do and be aware of). If someone is breaking that contract of understanding, the park should know so they can take action.

There are some that forget we are still guests of the park, not any more special than any other guest, and while we may be providing a "service" to the parks, the truth is they are providing more of a service to us.

For the record, I enjoy the behind-the-scenes stories on your vlog.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

I could be wrong, but I think the Trackers lost their Disney access at some point, which is why they don't go nearly as much as they used to. Tim was critical in a video at some point (I can't remember which, or what it was regarding), and the rumor is that Disney stopped showering them with passes after.

I'm with a lot of other people here, though. Once Jackson was born, I lost a lot of interest (and I'm someone who watched them almost daily for at least two or three years). I started watching some of the more recent ones the other night, and it's still more of the same, very very focused on the kid. Which, is fine... I'm just not the audience for it.

You can also color me part of the crowd that thinks Tim and Jenn aren't nearly as happy as they try to act. Sometimes there's just a very obvious vibe of annoyance from Tim when Jenn does certain stuff.

 

[The_Jobu]

I could be wrong, but I think the Trackers lost their Disney access at some point, which is why they don't go nearly as much as they used to. Tim was critical in a video at some point (I can't remember which, or what it was regarding), and the rumor is that Disney stopped showering them with passes after.

I'm with a lot of other people here, though. Once Jackson was born, I lost a lot of interest (and I'm someone who watched them almost daily for at least two or three years). I started watching some of the more recent ones the other night, and it's still more of the same, very very focused on the kid. Which, is fine... I'm just not the audience for it.

You can also color me part of the crowd that thinks Tim and Jenn aren't nearly as happy as they try to act. Sometimes there's just a very obvious vibe of annoyance from Tim when Jenn does stuff.

Now that I think about it, I don't recall them mentioning they were "invited" during their stay at Vero Beach.

Fascinating stuff.

 

[ptaylor]

I always contact a park before I visit to let them know and see what they would like me to do and be aware of

What does Disney say when you contact them?

 

[SirWillow]

For the record, I enjoy the behind-the-scenes stories on your vlog.

Thank you! I hope that it's entertaining and informative. It's definitely a bit of a niche in the world of theme park videos. There are some others out there, but not a lot of us talking about that side of things. And especially not while also remaining positive and a fan of the parks.

Hope you enjoyed the video I posted yesterday which really goes behind the scenes with the history of photopass.

What does Disney say when you contact them?

Generally Disney doesn't respond, because they are so big and have so many people contacting them. However I have received some responses from them, including a couple of emails that I keep on file for when I go to Disney. One is from Disney legal which covers the parody version of Duck Tales I use in some of my videos (my actual park vlogs called "Park Tales") The other is a copy of their guidelines and "permissions" that are a general form they have available for anyone, essentially saying that we can film in the park, but only in safe a safe manner, not in private/ CM/ unsafe areas or of backstage things, that we have to watch filming other people without their permission, especially children, etc.

I have something similar from Universal, and it's basically there just in case a CM asks. But as a former CM and being aware of what they want, I've never had an issue at any of their parks.

I do get more personal responses from other parks, including names, contacts, and permissions. I've had some parks offer some wonderful things- like occaisionally the opportunity to film on ride footage of coasters. But I generally decline that because I don't want someone else to see my footage- done safely, with permission, and with anchored cameras, and then think it's ok to take their cell phone and try to hold it while shooting.

I did have one tourist location (not a park) tell me that they would prefer I didn't shoot video when I visited, and I honored that. Took a few photos of outside and included those in a general video of the area.

 

[JIMINYCR]

We watch many of them for their dining reviews, updates on newly opened attractions, verification of park news and to get a view of the parks when we cant be there in person. The ones we stay with are entertaining and have a personality we enjoy. And the content they deal out is fresh and useful. Once they get repetitive or irritating in how they come across presenting material, I will abandon them. Some I will return to and some not. It doesnt bother me that some may have found a way to cash in, as long as I get some benefit from them its fine, Ive never sent anything into any of them, other than my clicks.

 

[DisneyJoe]

Now that I think about it, I don't recall them mentioning they were "invited" during their stay at Vero Beach.

Fascinating stuff.

They've been pretty good lately stating when they are hosted and when they are not, even giving the prices they paid per night when they did pay for it themselves; they did pay just recently for 2 nights? at Sapphire Falls at Universal so they'd be able to be close to VelociCoaster on opening day. They do use AP and Florida Resident rates when possible.

 

[The_Jobu]

They've been pretty good lately stating when they are hosted and when they are not, even giving the prices they paid per night when they did pay for it themselves; they did pay just recently for 2 nights? at Sapphire Falls at Universal so they'd be able to be close to VelociCoaster on opening day. They do use AP and Florida Resident rates when possible.

I saw that vid, really enjoyed it as SF is my favourite hotel.

That huge suite they got for $400 looked like an amazing value. I dont think they have many though because they were always booked when I looked them up.

 

[mergatroid]

You can also color me part of the crowd that thinks Tim and Jenn aren't nearly as happy as they try to act. Sometimes there's just a very obvious vibe of annoyance from Tim when Jenn does certain stuff.

Isn't that just called marriage?

 

[DisneyJoe]

Isn't that just called marriage?

I know if I posted the number of hours of video on Youtube with my wife that they have shared over the last decade, you'd notice the occasional looks or tones between us too!