Pizza Moon
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Yea! Maelstrom Easter egg
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EPCOT Anna, Elsa and Kristoff Audio-Animatronics refresh coming to Frozen Ever After in EPCOT
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TrainsOfDisney
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I thought they stuck out and looked weird personally.
How fun… I didn’t have anyone next to me in my row and I was in the front row so I guess that’s why I noticed them - so adorable. Still miss maelstrom to be honest! Haha
Bocabear
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Frozen has almost nothing to do with the Hans Christian Anderson Snow Queen story.... the only thing it has in common is there is snow and ice and it is cold.... that is about it.... I wish it really had been based on the HCA story with a real villain, and a better storyline... Elsa would have been a great villain...
Blame the Lopez duo for that. When Let it Go hit so hard that everyone started rooting for the villain the creative team had to rework the story to make her the hero.
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easyrowrdw
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Congratulating themselves for fixing something they screwed up really is something else.Ugh this is so smug for the barest of bare minimums I hate it so much
Bocabear
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It's like the origin story...before she became a monster... Before she became bitter and angry that her sister had love, but she was destined to remain cold and alone and had to steal the children of Arendelle and put slivers of ice in their heart to make them forget their lives outside of her ice palace.....
Pizza Moon
Premium Member
It looks like they updated the app!
What a great change!
What a great change!
Mr. Sullivan
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To be fair, I wouldn't call it a screw up, I'd call it an experiment that just didn't work out. There's a very clear difference to me between a pure screw up that was the result of carelessness and an attempt to try something new that just didn't work as intended. The projection faced AAs was an attempt at something new, and it didn't work out, so they pivoted.
People ask Disney to cop to their failures all the time, and this is one of the few times that they've very publicly done so.
ToTBellHop
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Also, this AA technique didn’t really fail. They simply learned it doesn’t work well for animated humans. But, it’s fine for other characters and also creates emotive eyes pretty well.
They’re still using projected faces for the trolls, for example, because they work there.
Pizza Moon
Premium Member
Frozen: Ever After can be summarized as follows:
The scope is bigger than Maelstrom, but the execution is worse.
The updated version at least feels “complete,” but I do not like the lack of true tension and narrative buildup.
Irks me on TBA too.
The scope is bigger than Maelstrom, but the execution is worse.
The updated version at least feels “complete,” but I do not like the lack of true tension and narrative buildup.
Irks me on TBA too.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Deploying new iterations of technology is copping to failures? Why is it not just plussing their attractions as a quick win?
Pizza Moon
Premium Member
Yeah I’m not a FEA fan at all, everyone here knows that, but I can’t help but look at the updated AAs and lighting as anything other than good faith.
It’s exactly the type of regular plussing/updates they should be doing!
I like Josh a lot for this reason. Those rides, BTM, Buzz, CoP, RNRC, Falcon, are all getting updates.
My guess is the trend will continue after it.
MickeyLuv'r
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Speaking of "ratty" and Epcot, you'll never guess what I saw scurrying through Epcot late one night about 9 months ago...
Or maybe WDW just added a very authentic animatronic to update the Remy ride?
Well, except that I wasn't in the France pavilion at the time.
Now I am what you might call a WDW old timer, but in all my visits, that was a first. I've seen rabbits, gators, all kinds of birds, an assortment of large insects, snakes, cats, been inundated with love-bugs, loads of lizards...
I saw a family of racoons at Universal. They were great fun!
Oh, and on a recent trip, I saw a squirrel steal a pink pastry out of a closed paper bag that someone had left in the side pouch of a stroller! I've seen them steal popcorn from an open container left in a stroller before, but this was a bit extra bold.
In any event, I just opened this thread to say that I like the new FEA faces!
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AidenRodriguez731
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I mean there is no way to 100% stop mice from a park that big that sits in wildlife but I wonder if they are doing something different for cost reasons. If they are, they should return to previous methods unless its a health issue.
I have not seen any mice or rodents at Disney other than the very loveable Disney squirrel
TrainsOfDisney
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I haven’t seen a mouse or a rat in Anandapur since that bad infestation!
(Iykyk)
MickeyLuv'r
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(I just finished editing my post)
Erm, not a mouse.
One of Remy's friends.
My group, and a nearby CM, thought the squirrel stealing the pastry was kinda funny/cute, except I wouldn't want to unwittingly share my food with a squirrel. The CM said they would try to keep an eye out for the stroller's owners. Hopefully, they were warned not to eat the pastry in time.
I've always imagined critters might be a part of WDW, but that is why CLEAN is so important in a theme park. It has always been one of the things that sets WDW apart from Six Flags.
Sorry to get off-topic. The new faces on FEA are something WDW has gotten right! This is good.
Mr. Sullivan
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You seem to be taking what as I said as some sort of negative when I mean it as a positive.
Failure is not inherently bad and I dislike strongly the way that it has such a purely negative connotation. Failure comes sometimes as a result of attempting to be innovative, and in this case that's exactly what it was. Failure often means you tried something, and trying something is always a good thing, even if it doesn't end up working out. They tried something that did not work out as they hoped it would and instead of digging their feet in and just letting it sit like that forever, they actually went in and changed it to fit a better standard.
I do not begrudge them for trying the projection faces. It was an interesting idea, and maybe in the future they'll be able to figure it out in a way that works better. But for now, they realized it wasn't working, and they made a very public show of getting rid of what didn't work. Yes, that is a public admission of a failed experiment, and I think that it's a positive thing that they did that. More of that please.
MickeyLuv'r
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not to be too picky, but WDW is already using projection faces (7D and the remaining ones on FEA), so we might presume that for the time being, WDW does NOT view the remaining projections as a total failure.
With technology, there is often a rapid progression. In the last 10 years, for example, 3D printing has progressed very rapidly.
There is a strong possibility of improving upon this technology in the future.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I don’t agree with your take. The faces were working… they just improved upon them after the very implementation was iterated on with toyko. (Presumably because it was low hanging fruit after someone else paid the bills to get to that point).
When you go shopping for quick wins… this is tge kind of stuff you’ll find put on the list