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Anaheim GardenWalk For Sale
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
There is a thread where this is discussed already:
https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/anaheim-gardenwalk-development-status-report-10-17-2017.934970/
https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/anaheim-gardenwalk-development-status-report-10-17-2017.934970/
Oh thanks. How wasn’t this on the first page of posts?
D
Deleted member 107043
So then it's literally just the mall and not the adjoining hotel lots or the parking garage that are part of the original AGW development?
Darkbeer1
Well-Known Member
No, it is showing the "retail" space. The Parking Structure and Time Share (To be built on top of the structure), and the two Hotel Lots are the others. (The city owns the Fire Station land in between the two Hotel Lots, which they got as part of the approval process).
According to this site:
http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/321-W-Katella-Ave-Anaheim-CA/9963269/
Parcels 082-551-04, 082-551-05, and 082-551-11 are for sale.
According to this site:
http://data-anaheim.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/assessed-parcels
The parking structure is 082-551-06, the fire station is 082-551-12, the hotel lot north of the station is 082-551-01 and the hotel lot south of the station is 082-551-02 and 082-551-03. Unless the online listing is inaccurate, only the retail space is for sale.
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Deleted member 107043
Last week the The Disney Blog posted a story speculating on what we've been discussing here - how Disney would benefit from purchasing AGW to connect the current theme parks, hotels, and retail to a third park on the existing Disney parking lot bordering Katella. No big news or revelations, but still relevant.
http://thedisneyblog.com/2018/01/18/roadmap-third-gate-disneyland-needs-gardenwalk/
http://thedisneyblog.com/2018/01/18/roadmap-third-gate-disneyland-needs-gardenwalk/
That article doesn’t really discuss how it wouldn’t work. It won’t work because the land is already developed. There’s no transportation to get anyone from the various locations within Disneyland Resort to the third park especially through AGW. There’s a lot of people to move. The AGW parking lot is small and useless to park enough people to the third park. DCA hasn’t fully built out it’s capacity. The Eastern Gateway is logically the better choice as a third park although a small park. Just build a pedestrian bridge. Disney will again conclude there should be no third park. There’s just no way to make it work.
TROR
Well-Known Member
Adding a monorail to connect the main esplanade to a third gate is a rather simple and effective fix for your transportation problem. Shuttles, as well. The installation of a People Mover from where the Eastern Gateway parking lot to the third gate would be far more of a problem but still very much possible.
Hardly simple since it requires the easements from Anaheim to cross the public roads. Disney ran into roadblocks from trying to get a simple bridge over Harbor Blvd. It would take a lot of planning and designs to cross the city streets and along Harbor Blvd. It has to find a route along Disney’s properties and any it doesn’t own. AGW is already developed. There’s no route through it for the monorail or people mover. The remaining solution is many shuttles through city streets for tens of thousands of guests. This will prove impossible.
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Deleted member 107043
As others have said Disney could either repurpose the mall as an eastern version of the Downtown Disney “marketplace” or level it and create a customized pedestrian lane to the third park. Presumably any plans for a third theme park would have to rely heavily on pedestrian access to the current parks via the Eastern Gateway and it’s proposed parking garage. I certainly won’t be holding my breath waiting for Disney to announce that kind investment in Anaheim, but I’m willing to play along for fun since speculating is what we do here.
Considering I already said the parking garage is too small to serve the theme park, this won’t work. The mall should be demolished and started over again, but Darkbeer already said the hotel leases must be played out so Disney could find itself with a white elephant for decades. And if the hotels are built, Disney cannot demolish ever. The opportunity to make it work is in the past.
A pedestrian path will work, but consider alternative approaches. The Eastern Gateway can be repurposed as another mini-theme park. The south Downtown Disney parking lot can be an extension of Paradise Pier. All these are walking distance.
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Deleted member 107043
Theoretically it could work because what I outlined relies in the Eastern Gateway garage not the one at AGW. Or did I misread what you said?
In any case it hardly matters because there won’t be a third theme park in Anaheim anyway.
I’d be shocked if Disney made an offer to buy AGW.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
There is one thing that I took away from that article that I think it more interesting and relevant to the DLR. Disney is making inquires into purchasing Harbor businesses. While I'm sure this is not new, its more interesting considering the recent issues with the Eastern Gateway. If Disney can buy up enough of the Harbor businesses then the Eastern Gateway will have little resistance. And with little resistance and the right City Council projects will move forward again.
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Deleted member 107043
Presumably anyone parking on the western edge of the property would not be going to any future development on Katella. I would assume those guests would be directed to park at the Eastern Gateway garage.