Anaheim GardenWalk Development Status report - 10/17/2017

Darkbeer1

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Darkbeer1

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Forgot to attach the letters written by the non-city parties....

http://local.anaheim.net/docs_agend...15509/15511/1. Annual Review Letters15511.pdf

In the second letter it talks about due dates in regards to the JW Marriott.

Construction must start by May 11th, 2018. And the letter claims that construction will start "well before" that date, and the 2 nd hotel will be built as another phase.

Also we learn that a Westgate Timeshare project will be in front of the planning commission in the near future.
 

DLR92

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Forgot to attach the letters written by the non-city parties....

http://local.anaheim.net/docs_agend/questys_pub/14632/14662/14663/15509/15511/1. Annual Review Letters15511.pdf

In the second letter it talks about due dates in regards to the JW Marriott.

Construction must start by May 11th, 2018. And the letter claims that construction will start "well before" that date, and the 2 nd hotel will be built as another phase.

Also we learn that a Westgate Timeshare project will be in front of the planning commission in the near future.

This is all great news, will definite bring bring more confidence for merchants to open in the mall. Especially like me.
 
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Item 5 on the Anaheim City Council Agenda for Tuesday night is a review of the current Development status. Here is a link to the city staff report.

http://local.anaheim.net/docs_agend/questys_pub/14632/14662/14663/15509/15510/Staff Report15510.pdf

And a Map showing that the JW Marriott will be on the south end near Katella Avenue.

http://local.anaheim.net/docs_agend/questys_pub/14632/14662/14663/15509/15512/2. Map Exhibit15512.pdf

I know those expansion plots were identified long ago for future hotel and timeshare developments, but in light of the state's housing crises and shifting demographics, wouldn't it make more sense to have housing in the mix?
 

Darkbeer1

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I know those expansion plots were identified long ago for future hotel and timeshare developments, but in light of the state's housing crises and shifting demographics, wouldn't it make more sense to have housing in the mix?

The Anaheim Resort District specifically is not Zoned for housing, and was a major issue in the Sun-Cal project at the Trailer Park over 10 years ago.

The new mixed use complex in the Angel Stadium parking lot has a housing element.

http://ltplatinumcenter.com/
 
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The Anaheim Resort District specifically is not Zoned for housing

Let me guess... Disney lobbied against housing in the district?

Edit: Interesting that the LT Platinum Center touts 1400 new permanent jobs but only 400 units of new housing. It's exactly this kind of math that has us in the housing bind we're in here.
 
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TP2000

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Let me guess... Disney lobbied against housing in the district?

Edit: Interesting that the LT Platinum Center touts 1400 new permanent jobs but only 400 units of new housing. It's exactly this kind of math that has us in the housing bind we're in here.

Disney most certainly did lobby against housing in the Resort District, along with a large number of other hotel and restaurant owners. They don't want people living in the Resort District zoned for tourism and hospitality and then demanding the neighbors stop their fireworks shows that bother their sleeping children and limit their late operating hours that cause traffic that keep them up at night. Homes and Tourism rarely make good next door neighbors.

However, a half mile away from GardenWalk, Anaheim has rezoned a previously Light Industrial area that had zero housing into a new neighborhood that is almost nothing but housing. So Anaheim has purposely shut down many small businesses and light industrial complexes to replace them with nothing but housing.

It's called the Platinum Triangle and has been zoned for 18,000 new homes in apartments and condos. About 2,000 homes have been built so far, with 1,000 more currently under construction and thousands more pending zoning approval and construction start.
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There are already about a dozen of these types of new condo or apartment complexes now lining State College and Katella in the Platinum Triangle area, with many more under construction and planned. 18,000 homes within the next 10 years!
1818-Platinum-Triangle-3-920x684.jpg
 
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TP2000

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Forgot to attach the letters written by the non-city parties....

http://local.anaheim.net/docs_agend/questys_pub/14632/14662/14663/15509/15511/1. Annual Review Letters15511.pdf

In the second letter it talks about due dates in regards to the JW Marriott.

Construction must start by May 11th, 2018. And the letter claims that construction will start "well before" that date, and the 2 nd hotel will be built as another phase.

Also we learn that a Westgate Timeshare project will be in front of the planning commission in the near future.

Ah, silly little GardenWalk. How I've loved making fun of you for the past decade. This is the failed mall of all failed malls. It's ugly, abandoned, and unloved. Except on its Katella side where a few corporate restaurants do good business with the convention and tourist trade. One big change in the last decade; I marvel at the amount of sketchy/druggy homeless people that camp out on the sidewalk there now panhandling from the scared tourists shuffling by.

The JW Marriott was approved for construction back in 2016. Good to hear the firm building it has gone on record that construction will finally start before May, 2018.

JW Marriott - Anaheim GardenWalk (apparently California will be switching to British license plates next year)
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D.Silentu

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I'm glad to hear that, Gardenwalk is such a monument to failure that it's in need of attractions like these. On one annual trip to Disneyland we were lured there with an advertisement of drink specials at Fire & Ice. Now a dinner there is a fixture of every trip, yet seeing the vacant state of the mall every year, it seems like a roll of the dice that the restaurant will still be there for our next visit!
 

Ismael Flores

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The Anaheim Resort District specifically is not Zoned for housing, and was a major issue in the Sun-Cal project at the Trailer Park over 10 years ago.

The new mixed use complex in the Angel Stadium parking lot has a housing element.

http://ltplatinumcenter.com/
I’m really glad that housing is not allowed there inside resort area. There are plenty of lots just outside the resort that can be turned into housing without impacting the resort streets.
Also have relatives that are involved in real estate as well as banking and they have mentioned they are seeing similar trend as the last housing mess.
Lots of new housing developments being pushed thru. Pricing going higher and higher and people paying more than they should. It won’t be like my before it all tumbled again and housing projects get abandoned
 

Phroobar

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Disney most certainly did lobby against housing in the Resort District, along with a large number of other hotel and restaurant owners. They don't want people living in the Resort District zoned for tourism and hospitality and then demanding the neighbors stop their fireworks shows that bother their sleeping children and limit their late operating hours that cause traffic that keep them up at night. Homes and Tourism rarely make good next door neighbors.

However, a half mile away from GardenWalk, Anaheim has rezoned a previously Light Industrial area that had zero housing into a new neighborhood that is almost nothing but housing. So Anaheim has purposely shut down many small businesses and light industrial complexes to replace them with nothing but housing.

It's called the Platinum Triangle and has been zoned for 18,000 new homes in apartments and condos. About 2,000 homes have been built so far, with 1,000 more currently under construction and thousands more pending zoning approval and construction start.
mexvxp-mexvxcplatinumtriangleupdate.gif


There are already about a dozen of these types of new condo or apartment complexes now lining State College and Katella in the Platinum Triangle area, with many more under construction and planned. 18,000 homes within the next 10 years!
1818-Platinum-Triangle-3-920x684.jpg
It's so much fun living between two of the busiest freeways in the country. Such fresh air and silence. I think Disneyland's fireworks would be the least of the noise these people have to live with. Maybe they will lobby to have the freeways shut down due to noise?
 

Darkbeer1

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Watching the City Council meeting now, Mayor Tait has bitched as expected.

One point, the second Hotel must start building by May 10, 2022. The Timeshare build starting date is in 2019, but should start next year.
 

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