News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[JD80]

I was kind enough to ignore that bit of childish social media silliness, yes.

Tell you what, why don't we wait and see if the project gets built as announced. As cuts and budget-driven alterations occur, you can say they were never important anyway. When the final product opens and its disappointing, you can grumble at anyone who points that out, focus on the next PR release from Disney, and ignore the whole repeating cycle - just like with Tiana or the EPCOT expansion or the MGM expansion...

And if a strong, significant show goes into Muppets theater, a substantial Muppets overlay goes into RnRC, and a major Villains Land gets built this decade, I'll post that you were right and I was wrong. And if MV3D returns to a Disney park, I'll add some emojis.

Loudest person in the room calling others childish.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Loudest person in the room calling others childish.

Posters who are dubious of this project have provided copious evidence and explanation backing up their positions. Feel free to do the same. I suggest you start with the many, many Phase 2s Disney has built over the last decades in Florida. Or perhaps you could look at all the expansions that didn't suffer massive cuts during both development and construction. You might also offer some analysis of the impact of the new management team, being sure to address Wall Street's attitude towards theme park capital expenditures.

You almost always ignore my question, but here's a pretty basic one: Why is it a good idea for Disney to remove a high capacity family attraction that receives consistently high guest scores from a park in desperate need of capacity and family attractions?

 

[Blobbles]

Some interesting tidbits about muppetvision and monsters inc from Jim Hill and Len Testa during the Disney dish today:

• Even as far back as multiple months before d23, muppets to RNRC and monsters to Grand Park has ALWAYS been the plan, and. BOTH were supposed to be at d23 august
• Disney P.R. were the ones who said “lets not do it live because of fears of live streamers recording protest walkouts and calling out Disney”
• After D23, Disney quietly let a group of Imagineers do a study about how much it would cost to put Monsters in Animation Courtyard as an alternative, but it would set the project back a full year due to demolition costs. They want to be fast due to wanting to be ready by Epic's Phase 2
• for muppets RNRC, Jim and Len are expecting a mix of re-recorded Muppets music and famous rock songs
• The last thing they talk about is Imagineering having conversations about bringing back MuppetVision into the Disney Parks and how he hopes it's true. (I was consfused, because despite the official word from Disney, i want to clarify Jim specifically says Bringing back muppetvision into the Disney parks) Len then counters with "well, I know what you know so that's all I'll say". Convo ends there.

I am only the messenger.

Wondering if anyone else with apparent info has heard anything along these lines. Pretty interesting stuff. The muppetvision ride truly never ends.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The new Monsters show is simply part of the new land...

That’s right, humans will be able to enter the world of Monsters, Inc. when it is added to the south side of Disney’s Hollywood Studios. Building off the exciting announcements from last summer’s D23: The Ultimate Disney Fan Event, the new land will include the coaster we’ve all dreamed of – a suspended ride recreating the door vault scene – plus dining and shopping and a whole new theater show. ​

If one want to be doubtful there will be a show... fine. Be doubtful. But it's not some phase 2 vapor imagineering.

Monsters and Muppet Updates for Hollywood Studios

Enter the world of Monsters, Inc. when it is added to the south side of Hollywood Studios, while The Muppets move to Sunset Boulevard.

disneyparksblog.com

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

The new Monsters show is simply part of the new land...

That’s right, humans will be able to enter the world of Monsters, Inc. when it is added to the south side of Disney’s Hollywood Studios. Building off the exciting announcements from last summer’s D23: The Ultimate Disney Fan Event, the new land will include the coaster we’ve all dreamed of – a suspended ride recreating the door vault scene – plus dining and shopping and a whole new theater show. ​

If one want to be doubtful there will be a show... fine. Be doubtful. But it's not some phase 2 vapor imagineering.

Monsters and Muppet Updates for Hollywood Studios

Enter the world of Monsters, Inc. when it is added to the south side of Hollywood Studios, while The Muppets move to Sunset Boulevard.

disneyparksblog.com

If anything the stage show is much more likely than anything else due to how cheap it is. There’s a non zero chance the rollercoaster is the phase 2 (if it’s not just a single phase, which I think it is). Disney doesn’t make the best decisions anymore so I could see them delaying the coaster and opening the rest of the land to make money while they finish

 

[lazyboy97o]

Why is this new show the big secret of all of the recent announcements? That seems to be a big indicator that it is nowhere near even conceptually developed and is further behind other projects.

 

[rct247]

Above: The marquee says "Late Night Screams". I can't make out the banner to the right, but it ends with the word "You".

Above: The concept artist took the easy way out and copied and pasted the facade for It's a Wonderful Shop. The words at the bottom are backwards reading "Parkside Antiques", the snow is on the window ledges, and snowflakes still appear in the window with lens flare/paint marks blocking the other Christmas items.

Above: Looks like the lobby to Mama Melrose's will be expanded for Harryhausen's.

Above: As previously pointed out, you can see Roz on the firehouse building with the words "We're Always Watching". Christmas decor removed from It's a Wonderful Shop, but you can still read "Parkside Antiques". Not sure what the white thing is to the right side. It looks like a giant tooth for a dentist.

Above: Concept artist took another shortcut and copied the Monsters Inc show building from Tokyo. If you also zoom in on the right side you can find a mistake. There appears to be a word hidden under the roof of the door coaster show building.

Above: Concept artist also likely pulled from Google Earth as a starting point.

Above: Outdated view from Google Earth from the construction of Galaxy's Edge, but it will be interesting to see if the exit of the Muppets theater will pour out into a small courtyard for traffic flow avoiding the main walkway to the door coaster. I could also see this area being used a stroller parking and outdoor extended queue space where they can also tap into the Muppet Vision 3D extended queue on the backside of the theater building when the door coaster first opens. They used this queue for Rise of the Resistance when it first opened. Also, the removal of Stage 1 Company Store will really open up that courtyard, but the park's service road will need to be rerouted.

 

[Fox&Hound]

Is it just me or has this thread turned into a huge bummer? I was excited to talk about these changes with other Disney fans. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and yes many are sad about these changes, but there is a lot of doom and gloom here. I think some people have been hogging the “talking stick” and should share with others…

 

[The Leader of the Club]

Why is this new show the big secret of all of the recent announcements? That seems to be a big indicator that it is nowhere near even conceptually developed and is further behind other projects.

Because of what it’s replacing. They’re not confident that they have something as good as MuppetVision and they don’t want it to be under scrutiny yet.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

Is it just me or has this thread turned into a huge bummer? I was excited to talk about these changes with other Disney fans. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and yes many are sad about these changes, but there is a lot of doom and gloom here. I think some people have been hogging the “talking stick” and should share with others…

These forums typically skew negative anyway, but this is definitely a product of recent events. People feel betrayed at Disney for a number of reasons (price increases, new EPCOT, and Tiana chief among them) and the news of more closures doesn’t help that. I think when we get to the actual construction phase we’ll see more positivity about these projects, but for now people are mourning the closures and worried that the replacements won’t measure up.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I wonder if the show will be like a Mike Wasowski late night comedy style show

 

[YouMakeTheWorldGoRound]

Is it just me or has this thread turned into a huge bummer? I was excited to talk about these changes with other Disney fans. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and yes many are sad about these changes, but there is a lot of doom and gloom here. I think some people have been hogging the “talking stick” and should share with others…

There are few bummers greater then losing Jim Henson’s Muppet Vision 3D

 

[Casper Gutman]

Because of what it’s replacing. They’re not confident that they have something as good as MuppetVision and they don’t want it to be under scrutiny yet.

This is the way a fan thinks, not the way Disney thinks.

 

[erasure fan1]

If one want to be doubtful there will be a show... fine. Be doubtful. But it's not some phase 2 vapor imagineering.

Wow, they said it in press release, it has to be true. I'm not sure how you can question anyone being skeptical about this. Boy, those droids were awesome when I was in galaxys edge. Oh wait. Disney has an exceptional record of under delivering on their projects. I'm not saying it won't come out, but there's plenty of history to say it's a definite possibility.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

This is the way a fan thinks, not the way Disney thinks.

This is the way PR thinks. This is why they didn’t announce where Monsters was going months ago, waiting until the Friday before Thanksgiving. This is why they haven’t posted the announcement on their social media. This is why they made the statements about “preserving MuppetVision.” They don’t want more backlash than necessary. This way they can hide behind headlines that “Muppets are closing for the Door Coaster BUT they’re getting a new roller coaster,” instead of actually owning up to what they’re doing. It’s a PR play to avoid as much bad press as possible.

 

[Casper Gutman]

This is the way PR thinks. This is why they didn’t announce where Monsters was going months ago, waiting until the Friday before Thanksgiving. This is why they haven’t posted the announcement on their social media. This is why they made the statements about “preserving MuppetVision.” They don’t want more backlash than necessary. This way they can hide behind headlines that “Muppets are closing for the Door Coaster BUT they’re getting a new roller coaster,” instead of actually owning up to what they’re doing. It’s a PR play to avoid as much bad press as possible.

This is all true. I was taking issue with the idea that they are worried about the quality of the possible replacement. They aren't. They're only worried about bad optics.

 

[BirdbyBird]

Interesting stuff in here. I imagine there's an enormous amount of wotk to get a new ride/theme ready to go.

 

[Professortango1]

There are few bummers greater then losing Jim Henson’s Muppet Vision 3D

It has been on borrowed time for quite awhile. I adored the show and would love to see the Muppets used in the park, but this show felt dated. Disney needs to replace it with something decent, but its not like this is the greatest thing Henson ever created, its merely the last.

 

[YouMakeTheWorldGoRound]

It has been on borrowed time for quite awhile. I adored the show and would love to see the Muppets used in the park, but this show felt dated. Disney needs to replace it with something decent, but its not like this is the greatest thing Henson ever created, its merely the last.

I simple cannot agree with any of your points. Disney didn’t need to replace it, they made a choice and are rightly being roasted over it. And this idea that the show is unforgivably dated? I don’t understand that. On my most recent trip in July I spent a great deal of time in Muppets Courtyard based on its (at the time) rumoured closure. I saw the show a half dozen times and I was delighted to see kids and adults genuinely connect with it. I saw many smiling faces in the exit area and even some kids reciting jokes.

I wasn’t even born yet when this debuted in 1991, and as much as I will sorely miss this wonderful experience. I feel an even deeper shame that many of the kids of today won’t be able to experience a show that brought joy to so many because they were born too late. It’s a great shame that Muppet Vision has not been allowed to join the ranks with attractions like Peter Pan’s Flight or Jungle Cruise and be a permanent treasure to be handed down the family from generation to generation.

 

[celluloid]

I simple cannot agree with any of your points. Disney didn’t need to replace it, they made a choice and are rightly being roasted over it. And this idea that the show is unforgivably dated? I don’t understand that. On my most recent trip in July I spent a great deal of time in Muppets Courtyard based on its (at the time) rumoured closure. I saw the show a half dozen times and I was delighted to see kids and adults genuinely connect with it. I saw many smiling faces in the exit area and even some kids reciting jokes.

I wasn’t even born yet when this debuted in 1991, and as much as I will sorely miss this wonderful experience. I feel an even deeper shame that many of the kids of today won’t be able to experience a show that brought joy to so many because they were born too late. It’s a great shame that Muppet Vision has not been allowed to join the ranks with attractions like Peter Pan’s Flight or Jungle Cruise and be a permanent treasure to be handed down the family from generation to generation.

This.
People say it is dated but there is very little in the show that dates it. It occasionally had egregious upkeep neglect like most of the resort right now, but the quality of its content has been so fine and recently revered enough to be referenced at WDW dining establishments...at another WDW theme park.