Could be. But, it seems they're going to be out on the lagoon permanently. The barges would be to shuttle them if they were in need of dry dock repair, I would guess.
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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious
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Could be. But, it seems they're going to be out on the lagoon permanently. The barges would be to shuttle them if they were in need of dry dock repair, I would guess.
trainplane3
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And once they're out there and anchored, I'll assume the barges will be used to carry fireworks (and other explodey things) out to them.
I have a hard time seeing it as anything but very deliberately planned. I don't know that I've ever seen an authoritative quote referencing it (and I'd be glad to be pointed at one if there was), but the geometry of the site plan couldn't have been an accident:
First off, if you look at the orientation of the south World Showcase pavilions, the primary axis of the pavilions are deliberate. At first glance you might assume all the pavilions point to the center of the lagoon. Turns out, they aren't even close - the axis of the 3 center pavilions - Japan, USA, and Italy, orient their centers perfectly to the center of Spaceship Earth (red lines below). The flanking countries of France, Morocco, and Germany all converge not to SSE but to the primary WS overview point at Showcase Plaza (in blue)... the only place In EPCOT where you can literally see the whole world. (er, at least until these barges show up...)
Now that we've established a center line of the pavilion linked clearly to SSE in concert with the rest of the park's plan, we can look at the Japanese pavilion itself:
The Torii Gate perfectly splits that centerline, and also is perfectly rotated perpendicular to it. It is notably not square to the WS promenade itself which jogs perfectly E/W on its run through Japan.
Yes, you can rotate your placement and field of view through the gate to put anything in the background including the Guardians building, but not if you stay perfectly on the centerline and render the gate symmetrical and balanced in your image. You do that, and there's only one thing you would ever have in the background (1983 image from Yesterland, modern view Google Streetview):
When I look at a picture like this, I tend to think that even the orientation and profile of the island was deliberately tweaked to 'make' this picture from Day 1, playing to that centerline and intentionally using nature to provide an asymmetrical element that juxtaposes the rigid symmetry of the gate / SSE composition. EPCOT was designed by filmmakers. It's a cinematic shot. Without the island and the trees, it wouldn't be as interesting of a picture (it actually looks better today, I think, with the fully grown pine trees).
Without a guiding hand in the overall site design, there's no way all of those elements would have lined up by accident.
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When you place things symmetrically around a central axis, it's difficult for things not to line up... all coincidentally.
Also, rather than draw your lines free-hand down the center of buildings in which you're freely altering the angle to match to what you want it to be, draw the lines along the side of the buildings and you'll see which way they're really pointing.
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RSoxNo1
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I take it you didn't see Epcot Forever.
IMDREW
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Haha! Never got the chance unfortunately
montyz81
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@marni1971 i was watching your latest RoE edit. Question: was Walts face featured anywhere on the globe during Act 2?
Watching this again very much makes me reflect how the story that exists in SSE today and the story that RoE tells are very much similar/intertwined. I wonder if the eventual redo of SSE and Harmonious are going to be intertwined in the same manor?
Watching this again very much makes me reflect how the story that exists in SSE today and the story that RoE tells are very much similar/intertwined. I wonder if the eventual redo of SSE and Harmonious are going to be intertwined in the same manor?
He did. On the African continent. Come to think of it, as did I
Rteetz
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No barges but a small excavator is out in World Showcase lagoon working this morning.
Thanks! I was going to do that myself but figured no one had any news, or it would have been on here, so why bother?
He did. On the African continent. Come to think of it, as did I
Wait... your face was shown in RoE? I'm going to need to see this, because I
trainplane3
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Wait... your face was shown in RoE? I'm going to need to see this, because Idon'twant to watch the entire video again.
In case you can't see the video:
"That time when this happened in the 2014 Reflections of Earth at Epcot. So humbled. 28 seconds is where it happens
"I once had someone tell me, you can't trust some random user on the internet and the information they have as legitimate. My response was, "well, if they aren't legit, how else did they get into Illuminations? They surely have friends somewhere..."
In case you can't see the video:
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"That time when this happened in the 2014 Reflections of Earth at Epcot. So humbled. 28 seconds is where it happens
I once had someone tell me, you can't trust some random user on the internet and the information they have as legitimate. My response was, "well, if they aren't legit, how else did they get into Illuminations? They surely have friends somewhere..."
Beat me to it!
trainplane3
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Working from home + lunch break = not a lot of lunch break actually happening! So I tend to cruise through postingBeat me to it!
montyz81
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Is there a clip of when Walt shows up? Who else fro Imaginering/Disney shows up? (Yes, I am very much missing Illuminations today. It’s a tragedy of Horizons proportions that this show will not “Go on”.)Beat me to it!
montyz81
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That’s the one I thought might be him. I was on the treadmill this AM when I recognized it. Thanks @marni1971 for pulling that out!. You are a god among WDW fans!