DHS Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[UNCgolf]

TSL definitely has some layout flaws, but it has plenty of positives going for it.

It looks great at night and the theming is well done. Has a very popular QS spot. Mania is a classic (needs an update) and Slinky Dog Dash is massively popular. It's a better attraction than 7DMT by leaps and bounds. Now a TS restaurant there too (hey bring back the fried pickles!)

All you people that yell about they need more A/B tickets, the land has one of those too. Could it use some of the Pixar Pier jumping jellyfish A ticket stuff, probably?

It's probably a better land for a younger audience I admit.

Pandora is a beautiful layout but the land is less complete than TSL.

I think 7DMT, while disappointing and not what it should have been, is more interesting/better than Slinky Dog.

I'd definitely disagree about TSL being more complete than Pandora too, although that's at least partially because, to me, Pandora has two great attractions and TSL has none. It's also fun to walk around in (TSL barely even has anywhere to walk around), and the QS in Pandora is better than the TS in TSL from both a theming and a food quality perspective.

But I also think TSL is probably the worst land at WDW (unless you're counting something like Animation Courtyard as a land) just on content, even if it wasn't so poorly designed in terms of inefficient use of space.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Do you realize you’re talking about rides with a 1.2m height requirement? Thats the metric equivalent to 48” height requirements in the US and Disney’s highest height requirement.

They are still kids, not adults. Height has nothing to do with how they would react to something new and since, contrary to popular belief it isn't "flat" and it even has some airtime, just not extreme. The fact that it isn't for toddlers doesn't alter the fact that it is for children to enjoy with their parents. Their parents have to do what parents have had to do since the beginning of mankind... fake it until they make it.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I think 7DMT, while disappointing and not what it should have been, is more interesting/better than Slinky Dog.

I'd definitely disagree about TSL being more complete than Pandora too, although that's at least partially because, to me, Pandora has two great attractions and TSL has none. It's also fun to walk around in (TSL barely even has anywhere to walk around), and the QS in Pandora is better than the TS in TSL from both a theming and a food quality perspective.

But I also think TSL is probably the worst land at WDW (unless you're counting something like Animation Courtyard as a land) just on content, even if it wasn't so poorly designed in terms of inefficient use of space.

Because, I'm tired to repeating myself, this will be my final time. Toy Story Land wasn't built to amuse an adult. It was built to try and include things that a kid is familiar with and might enjoy without throwing up. Adults have their thing and kids should have their thing too. The point is it doesn't matter what an adult thinks about it. When it comes to experiencing something parents are only there to hold the hand of their child while he or she has fun. Every attraction at WDW has its own purpose and target audience. Haunted Mansion has no drops but it is something that can be terribly scary to a young child but perfect for pre-teens thru adults. Dumbo is for the younger set and they left enough room in the ride vehicle for an adult to accompany their child. No one expects any grown up to make it their favorite, most exciting ride in the park.

Personally I went on the Speedway cars with my daughters several years in a row. They loved it and I enjoyed doing stuff with them, but until my grandchildren were old enough I never rode it again. Between the neck breaking back and forth as the car steers itself I could have gotten out and crawled on my hands and knees faster than that car was moving. Guess what? I never complained about it being terrible because my kids and grandkids loved it as much as I love Pirates and CoP. They didn't, but it was only for them if they felt like relating to it. If anyone doesn't like a ride in Toy Story Land all you have to do is ask yourself who it was designed and built for then say your age outloud and then you will know why you aren't impressed. It's not because it is bad, it's because you outgrew it and it wasn't for you to begin with.

 

[lazyboy97o]

They are still kids, not adults. Height has nothing to do with how they would react to something new and since, contrary to popular belief it isn't "flat" and it even has some airtime, just not extreme. The fact that it isn't for toddlers doesn't alter the fact that it is for children to enjoy with their parents. Their parents have to do what parents have had to do since the beginning of mankind... fake it until they make it.

You don’t know what rides were being discussed, do you?

 

[mattpeto]

You don’t know what rides were being discussed, do you?

I think he does.

I do think the family perspective does get pretty dismissed around here regularly. TSL was built for families. I know TSL isn’t my first stop when I’m flying solo and I bet the child-less people around here feel the same way. But that’s in a vacuum.

I’ve had people tell me that kids opinions don’t matter.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I think he does.

I do think the family perspective does get pretty dismissed around here regularly. TSL was built for families. I know TSL isn’t my first stop when I’m flying solo and I bet the parent-less people around here feel the same way. But that’s in a vacuum.

I’ve had people tell me that kids opinions don’t matter.

I think I like TSL because I was like 11 when Toy Story came out, so I feel strong nostalgia in the area. I can’t be the only adult paying for vacations now who grew up on Toy Story.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I think he does.

I do think the family perspective does get pretty dismissed around here regularly. TSL was built for families. I know TSL isn’t my first stop when I’m flying solo and I bet the child-less people around here feel the same way. But that’s in a vacuum.

I’ve had people tell me that kids opinions don’t matter.

I don’t think you do either. The comments were responding to the claim that the half pipe coasters in China and France are flat rides. Nobody thinks they are actually just flat because they’re pretty obviously quite tall. They also have the same effective height requirement as Rock ‘n’ Rollercoaster, so not exactly kiddie territory.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I don’t think you do either. The comments were responding to the claim that the half pipe coasters in China and France are flat rides. Nobody thinks they are actually just flat because they’re pretty obviously quite tall. They also have the same effective height requirement as Rock ‘n’ Rollercoaster, so not exactly kiddie territory.

In that respect you are correct, I was talking about Toy Story Land's coaster. According to the title of the thread that is what we were discussing. How China and France got involved is apparently sleight of hand.

So let my post be clarified and say that I am now and have been referring to TSL in WDW, no other. It has been ridiculously complained about since it was built. Just like The 7DMT, adults who cannot understand what the targeted audience means. Also for those adults that constantly whine about how one isn't long enough and the other isn't exciting enough for their adult desires my point was no one cares. TSL was designed and built for children to have fun and do it with their parents. Most people know that like advertisements on TV directed at children that the child doesn't have income to buy the stuff but the influence they have on their parents to buy it for them is universal. So if, off topic, you were referring to China or France, sorry for my error of thinking we were still on topic.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I think TSL could use the extra attractions but NOT dark rides, I would go for a Critter Carousel and/or a teacups style flat ride themed to Bo Peep and her sheep.

 

[MR.Dis]

I think he does.

I do think the family perspective does get pretty dismissed around here regularly. TSL was built for families. I know TSL isn’t my first stop when I’m flying solo and I bet the child-less people around here feel the same way. But that’s in a vacuum.

I’ve had people tell me that kids opinions don’t matter.

My 8 year old grandson's favorite ride is Slinky Dog. Cannot go to WDW without him going on it at least 3 times. My biggest complaint is adults who constantly whine that every ride is Not a thrill ride for adults. WDW is a family theme park, which often contains (let me check) children. If anyone wants to complain about TSL they should complain about the lack of shade and benches for us old people.

 

[Beacon Joe]

A good video from Jim Shull:

 

[Timothy_Q]

A good video from Jim Shull:

oxymoron

 

[mattpeto]

My 8 year old grandson's favorite ride is Slinky Dog. Cannot go to WDW without him going on it at least 3 times. My biggest complaint is adults who constantly whine that every ride is Not a thrill ride for adults. WDW is a family theme park, which often contains (let me check) children. If anyone wants to complain about TSL they should complain about the lack of shade and benches for us old people.

Layout issues for sure, but it’s still a fam favorite spot.

 

[Stupido]

Since we're airing grievances about TSL, my biggest complaint about is that it didn't kill Space Ranger Spin in Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland needs a complete overhaul, and the extra space would could have added some cool things. Now with the refurb, SRS will last another 20 years.

 

[Beacon Joe]

oxymoron

LOL. I hear ya, and his video isn't groundbreaking and he seems to be biting his tongue a lot. But I thought it was a decent video.

 

[mattpeto]

Since we're airing grievances about TSL, my biggest complaint about is that it didn't kill Space Ranger Spin in Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland needs a complete overhaul, and the extra space would could have added some cool things. Now with the refurb, SRS will last another 20 years.

At least they are improving that. I’m guessing replacing with Ralph was an option (like they are doing at one of the global parks) but ROI was too favorable to keep TS IP in place.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Since we're airing grievances about TSL, my biggest complaint about is that it didn't kill Space Ranger Spin in Tomorrowland. Tomorrowland needs a complete overhaul, and the extra space would could have added some cool things. Now with the refurb, SRS will last another 20 years.

The easy layup would have been theming it to Stitch. I'm sure they're somewhat regretting they didn't.

 

[easyrowrdw]

My 8 year old grandson's favorite ride is Slinky Dog. Cannot go to WDW without him going on it at least 3 times. My biggest complaint is adults who constantly whine that every ride is Not a thrill ride for adults. WDW is a family theme park, which often contains (let me check) children. If anyone wants to complain about TSL they should complain about the lack of shade and benches for us old people.

I don't expect it to be a thrill ride for adults. But it is disappointing IMO that Slinky isn't nearly as good as 40+ year-old Thunder Mountain. This is my kids' preference as well. Thunder Mountain is multi-ride attraction for them, whereas Slinky is a toss-up.

 

[mattpeto]

The easy layup would have been theming it to Stitch. I'm sure they're somewhat regretting they didn't.

Gotta think some of the IPs from Stitch, Moana, Inside Out and Incredibles will be getting attractions in the next projects after VL.

We all loved that Moana AK blue sky artwork.

 

[LSLS]

In that respect you are correct, I was talking about Toy Story Land's coaster. According to the title of the thread that is what we were discussing. How China and France got involved is apparently sleight of hand.

So let my post be clarified and say that I am now and have been referring to TSL in WDW, no other. It has been ridiculously complained about since it was built. Just like The 7DMT, adults who cannot understand what the targeted audience means. Also for those adults that constantly whine about how one isn't long enough and the other isn't exciting enough for their adult desires my point was no one cares. TSL was designed and built for children to have fun and do it with their parents. Most people know that like advertisements on TV directed at children that the child doesn't have income to buy the stuff but the influence they have on their parents to buy it for them is universal. So if, off topic, you were referring to China or France, sorry for my error of thinking we were still on topic.

The others got involved because there was discussions about the DHS TSL being the best done, which is very relevant. There was a comparison of 3 flat rides at others to a coaster, dark, and flat ride. I was pointing out that was not correct, and that those others have a coaster, drop, and flat instead of just 3 flats, and those are done in spaces significantly smaller than what DHS takes up.