News 2024 EPCOT International Flower & Garden Festival

monothingie

I'm both Crunchy and Delicious!
Premium Member
They’ve always done this. It’s just the medium has changed.
There was a 30-60 minute tv special on Discovery or travel channel back when Everest was built about how and why it was built like it was.
And if you go back to the original “Disneyland” TV show there were many segments where Walt talk about how things were done.
There’s a big difference between promoting a brand new attraction or land versus promoting a floor tile or painted bush with a projector on it.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
A projection on ... a topiary...

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James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
There’s a big difference between promoting a brand new attraction or land versus promoting a floor tile or painted bush with a projector on it.
Different medium, different expectation with regard to length and frequency of communication, different attention span. I don’t particularly like the kind of content social media encourages either, but I also am not going to shame them for leaning into it.
 

monothingie

I'm both Crunchy and Delicious!
Premium Member
Different medium, different expectation with regard to length and frequency of communication, different attention span. I don’t particularly like the kind of content social media encourages either, but I also am not going to shame them for leaning into it.
Fair enough, but it waters down the brand, even making it appear fake. Zach and the carefully crafted persona marketing created for him bordered on parody. They've toned it back from Zach, but when your competitor is building an entire new park, bragging about a painted bush with a projector on it, thinking that this will excite people, seems out of touch.
 

Andrew25

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Has anyone seen substantial lines thus far at some of the booths with only plant-based options? Noticed a few of the booths with only plant-based options aren't too busy (Poutine at Canada, booth between Morocco/France).

Very surprised they can't offer a traditional protein as well.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Has anyone seen substantial lines thus far at some of the booths with only plant-based options? Noticed a few of the booths with only plant-based options aren't too busy (Poutine at Canada, booth between Morocco/France).

Very surprised they can't offer a traditional protein as well.
In the case of Canada, traditional poutine is also available. However, it’s not listed in the guide, only on the physical menu at the stand.
 

tpoly88

Well-Known Member
We may all scratch our heads at some of the topiary character/placement decisions, but there is no question that the effort put into Flower and Garden is top notch, and the end results reflect that.
There is a lot that goes into it and difficult keeping the flowers looking great in the FL Heat. I do wish they had some more of the educational aspect they used to have with workshops and teaching different techniques in gardening. i know its not really sexy but i used to like talking with the botanists about different plants and flowers. Went yesterday and the Festival seems very empty like they removed a lot of Kiosks and festival tents. Was not crowded at all yesterday given that its spring break. What few food pavilions they did have I didn't have to wait at all.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
There is a lot that goes into it and difficult keeping the flowers looking great in the FL Heat. I do wish they had some more of the educational aspect they used to have with workshops and teaching different techniques in gardening. i know its not really sexy but i used to like talking with the botanists about different plants and flowers. Went yesterday and the Festival seems very empty like they removed a lot of Kiosks and festival tents. Was not crowded at all yesterday given that its spring break. What few food pavilions they did have I didn't have to wait at all.

There would be some value to that educational piece, I'd imagine. But here we are.

We were there are the start and it was obviously very busy, but it's interesting to hear that crowds seem to have died off rather quickly, especially on a weekend. We'll see how things go over the next month with Spring Break ramping up quickly, I'm rather interested in hearing more boots-on-the-ground reports of crowds for F&G.
 

CntrlFlPete

Well-Known Member
There would be some value to that educational piece, I'd imagine. But here we are.

We were there are the start and it was obviously very busy, but it's interesting to hear that crowds seem to have died off rather quickly, especially on a weekend. We'll see how things go over the next month with Spring Break ramping up quickly, I'm rather interested in hearing more boots-on-the-ground reports of crowds for F&G.

We went on Monday and I would say that Spring Break is certainly happening. I would not claim that I have been to each day of the festival, but I can certainly say that Monday was the busiest we have seen Epcot during this year's F&G. We were there on opening day and the crowds on opening day where nowhere near what we saw on 3/11 (save for the queue to get into Creations on opening day).
 

Andrew25

Well-Known Member
F&G booths haven't been busy at all outside first weekend. But the park is busy, so I'd imagine it has to do with either less disposable income (mostly from APs), or items no longer as exciting or worth trying. Lots of booths this year solely offer some sort of vegetarian option as the only item, and those have been empty.

There is definitely festival fatigue at this point. Festival of the Arts was quite busy, so I think people are interested in them still... but not a new one each month lol

Sooner or later they will need to incentivize guests to go in the summer... so they'll need to come up with a summer festival soon
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
We went on Monday and I would say that Spring Break is certainly happening. I would not claim that I have been to each day of the festival, but I can certainly say that Monday was the busiest we have seen Epcot during this year's F&G. We were there on opening day and the crowds on opening day where nowhere near what we saw on 3/11 (save for the queue to get into Creations on opening day).
Opening day was busy, so to hear that a recent day was busier is … interesting. And telling.
 

CntrlFlPete

Well-Known Member
Opening day was busy, so to hear that a recent day was busier is … interesting. And telling.
it was a real mix of 'crowds'. Based on T-shirts, Rick Springfield brings people to the park -- public schools are out this week (at least in Polk county) -- AP block out dates start coming up in the next couple of weeks -- Spring break from other areas -- International tourism has seemed strong at Disney (my opinion) the last 8 months or so.

But it was really crowded compared to what it had been since the last race weekend. For my wife, my mother-in-law, and myself, it was chicken and waffles, butterfly gardens, then home for it was a bit too much for us and it is easy for us to come back another day.
 

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