“Something major” coming to DHS???

Phicinfan

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From what I can tell, the outlook isn't good.
Question, if you know, could this have been deep blue sky for potential 5th gate? Something they dabbled in and want to protect for IF they ever do a 5th gate?

I have often thought that would be the way to go in WDW for a 5th gate - an almost opposite MK using villains
 

PREMiERdrum

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Walking back from dinos has much less to do with "ceding dinosaurs to the park up I-4" and much more to do with them just lacking a vehicle or existing concept to anchor them to. None of their dinosaur-centered films met expectations. Indy was the obvious choice once their Tropical Americas concept started coming into focus.

Walking back from Dark Kingdom, as I believe they're doing, has much less to do with "ceding monsters to the park up I-4" and more to do with their ability to measure up to expectations with such a large creative pool and long-festering interest in the concept.

The "Villain Land" concept has been armchair-imagineered for so long, it's grown to a Beastley Kingdomme-like mythos. Lovely material for a coffee table book, but impossible to meet expectations as a real place.
 

PREMiERdrum

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They could meet my expectations for Beastly Kingdomme by simply building exactly what they were going to build! I'll never let go of Beastly Kingdomme.
A standard Arrow suspended coaster with exposed supports but a higly-themed queue and station and a hedge maze might not "wow" today's crowd... though it made for incredible artwork!
 

eddie104

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While I love the Villians land as a concept I knew from the start it was the most blue sky compared to other ideas.

Encanto and Coco make the most sense since they are recent IP.

However I’m trying to figure what else is coming to that plot of land at the MK?
 
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lazyboy97o

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The "Villain Land" concept has been armchair-imagineered for so long, it's grown to a Beastley Kingdomme-like mythos. Lovely material for a coffee table book, but impossible to meet expectations as a real place.
The villain stuff that has come out isn’t that interesting. It’s a concept built entirely around characters and that doesn’t really work that well.
 

PREMiERdrum

Well-Known Member
The villain stuff that has come out isn’t that interesting. It’s a concept built entirely around characters and that doesn’t really work that well.
AFAIK the working concept was a sort of anti-Fantasyland (in the style of "new" Fantasyland / Fantasyland Forest)... a dark, skewed village outpost where different characters had set up shop, with at least one castle looming in the distance.
 

mikejs78

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AFAIK the working concept was a sort of anti-Fantasyland (in the style of "new" Fantasyland / Fantasyland Forest)... a dark, skewed village outpost where different characters had set up shop, with at least one castle looming in the distance.

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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The movies "the Descendants" are extremely popular with young viewers, so explain to me how a Villains land will not work?
Because you're not that villainous if you're in love with one of the good guys and you have a boy band/girl band back up group singing about how you'll get what you want until you decide maybe you shouldn't because you really like one of the good guys.

So evil!!!
 

TeriofTerror

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Because you're not that villainous if you're in love with one of the good guys and you have a boy band/girl band back up group singing about how you'll get what you want until you decide maybe you shouldn't because you really like one of the good guys.

So evil!!!
Really? In my experience, the most surefire way to be the villain is to have the audacity to be in love with the good guy when you're not the established heroine. 🤣
 

Coaster Lover

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In the Parks
No
Iger did mention wanting to use current IP (and specifically said that no IP or old IP wasn't a worthwhile investment), and a Villains land would almost by necessity rely on older IP. Disney doesn't really have many (any?) memorable villains that would work well in a villains land from this century

Dr. Facilier... conspicuously missing from TBA... would be prime to lead a "new" Villians land... couple him with Yzma/Kronk, Bowler Hat Guy, and Mother Gothel and I think you could have a solid group! (Though personally. I feel it would still be lacking without Malificent)
 

Brer Oswald

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Dr. Facilier... conspicuously missing from TBA... would be prime to lead a "new" Villians land... couple him with Yzma/Kronk, Bowler Hat Guy, and Mother Gothel and I think you could have a solid group! (Though personally. I feel it would still be lacking without Malificent)
Disney is deathly afraid of including any sort of fear factor/villainy in their animation based attractions. Seems like that is saved exclusively for the Star Wars and Marvel stuff now (and even in the latter case, that's no gurantee: see Web Slingers).
 

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