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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    You tell them the date of your next park day (must be within 30 days of your call), and they'll set it to start on that date. At least, that's how they set mine up. If they don't offer to post-date your registration, ask them to and see what happens. If you're calling more than 30 days before...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Got approved for DAS this morning. Entered the queue at 8:40, was talking with a cast member almost immediately, and approved 5 minutes later. Took another 10 to get stuff set up, explain the new changes, and answer a few questions I had. The only real difference in the application process...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I will be better about that in the future!
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Good point, I forgot about that. I would have dropped that as well unless Genie+ had launched with pre-selects like it should have.
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Well, there's that too, but awful humans are awful humans everywhere they go. That's hardly unique to Disney guests.
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I can only speculate what the results of any of this would have been, but I think it could have been similar to what they've ended up with but less severe. Limiting the number of party members that can accompany the DAS holder helps address both the "VIP Tour Guides" situation and the groups...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Well, that's fair. I'm not saying the people lying are justified, but they're a symptom of a larger problem. Likewise, I'm not blaming Disney for implementing a paid system, but I think it's clear that the way they implemented was less than optimal and a better implementation might have...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    The average non-DAS user can, and typically does, ride lines with queues longer than 30 minutes. Not everyone is willing or able to wait 2 hours, but 30-60 minutes is within most people's tolerances. I don't mean "I only had time to ride half the rides". I mean that only half the rides were...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I guess it boils down to how well the accommodations work and how consistently CMs on the phone and at the rides explain and implement them. I've seen plenty of people declaring that the accommodations they've been offered instead of DAS are completely unacceptable, but a lot of that is noise...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Honestly, DAS abuse (by which I mean websites and so-called "tour guides" advising people without disabilities to game the system) has existed since day one, but anecdotally and backed up by Len's data and insider accounts, it got orders of magnitude worse when Genie+ was introduced. I put 100%...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Also, the last time we did MVMCP (pre-COVID), they offered a thing at Tony's where you could have a calm "home base" with some mediocre food, air conditioned seating, and a fireworks viewing spot that was relatively far from the castle and not very crowded (we stayed inside the restaurant for...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I'll just say that I do go plenty of places that can be challenging for me but not impossible without asking for the accommodations they make available, especially if there's a quiet area I can go to if I get overwhelmed. WDW is a special sort of challenge, for I think pretty much everyone...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I hope so. I'm keeping an open mind and willing to see what happens if I can't get DAS. I think it will be at least a little better than our trips were pre-DAS, especially since it helps that we've been doing this for enough years that I don't stress out if we can't do everything we want to in...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Yes, we did. And they were absolutely miserable. We could only ride about half the rides in the parks and I spent the whole week constantly on-edge, arguing with other guests or CMs who were triggering my fight/flight reflex, and barely avoiding a complete meltdown. We only went back because...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Right. For instance, fireworks shows are an absolute non-starter, and we have to find someplace like an out-of-the-way gift shop where they can't be heard at anywhere near full volume or we have to leave the park before they start. So we get a couple more rides, but neurotypical people can...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Genie+, when working as intended, or a decent touring plan will get you as many attractions as we did most days if you avoid the longest waits. Since we don't do thrill rides much, FoP and RotR are the only things we do that often have a >60 minute posted standby time. We did one trip where I...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Sometimes can. And sometimes my wife or daughter notices the external signs in time. OTOH, sometimes it goes from "0 to 60" so fast that there's no time to catch myself or for someone to intervene. So yes, there absolutely is a difference between children and adults, but I'm not convinced...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    As far as overuse, the ability to make a new DAS reservation while still in the LL queue for the last was the one part of DAS that actually did feel like cheating to me. I guess that and sometimes being able to see a show or ride something with a short wait time while the clock ticked down on a...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Learning coping mechanisms doesn't mean you're no longer disabled. Holding a full-time job and a family doesn't mean you're no longer disabled. I didn't use DAS for the first few trips we took to WDW, and let me tell you, "coping" with the parks and being able to actually enjoy the parks are...
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    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Most LL's are <10 minutes or even walk-on, but I've absolutely had LL waits of 20+ minutes. Usually it's with dark rides. TSMM and IASW are the most likely of the attractions we typically use DAS at (we don't do coasters often) to have waits over 15 minutes. Frozen, Peter Pan, and Pirates...
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