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    Disney Springs Mask Enforcement

    Was not crowded at all. World of Disney was a walk in the 3 times I went; same with every other store. People were somewhat keeping their distance, except when shopping-- they seemed to have little problem bunching up to look at the same thing. To give you an idea of the emptiness, this was the...
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    Disney Springs Mask Enforcement

    This isn't exactly correct. Your 17.4% number is correct, but the study is explicitly referring to medical grade masks, not the masks typically worn by most people today. See: This is from the study in the Lancet from June 1 entitled: "Physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to...
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    Disney Springs Mask Enforcement

    Yep. We each need to assess the risks and take appropriate precautions to make sure we each feel safe. That may mean not going places. Especially add if you fall into a high risk category due to age or pre-existing conditions. For the record, I'm also not a fan of masks, but still wore one at...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I can see that. I just have less faith in humanity I guess-- I tend to think the majority of people will see "higher numbers == bad" instead of "percent of numbers == good"
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I wouldn't discount this except for one thing-- these data are provided by the state/county; the same people who want to open things up. with that in mind, I'd think they'd want to project a better picture and less fear. Personally, I tend toward Hanlon's Razor: never attribute to malice that...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Well... the point of a graph when you're presenting something is to help tell your interpretation of something. I wouldn't be surprised if graphs like this are telling exactly the story that they want to tell.
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    POLL: When are you planning to return to Walt Disney World?

    Wow. Thanks for responding. Waiting 2.5 years shows a level of caution I'm actually astounded by. I assume that you're going to wait out of an abundance of caution, and not that you're planning on hitting up DLR instead, of course! ;) Hopefully, in your day-to-day life, you'll be less...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Side note: as an adjacent to my job I get updates with the full, raw COVID data feeds from every county in the US at least daily, and for some locations multiple times a day. That gets ran through a bunch of magic by our data scientists, and the final reports we get are pretty complex and...
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    POLL: When are you planning to return to Walt Disney World?

    Q: if the vaccine efforts end up failing, does that mean you'll never go? (I'm honestly curious)
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I actually agree with everything you've said here; there's been a couple of times I've written out pretty much exactly that on other topics, then deleted it just because of the wall of text. The point I was making (and evidently doing it poorly) was that the messaging from the top was not...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Sadly, this is probably closer to truth than it should be. Most Americans (in general and in my opinion) tend towards instant gratification and more towards surface knowledge rather than deep understanding. Personally, I think the messaging from leadership from the beginning was flawed to...
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    Disney Springs Mask Enforcement

    Saw the same thing when we went a couple of weeks ago. I guessed at the time that 85-90% of people were wearing them. The only enforcement we saw was some reminders were things like "don't forget, your mask should cover both your mouth AND nose!" which generally got ignored. I honestly don't...
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    Masks at WDW

    No, I didn't miss the point, actually. You asked for the source of the data, I gave it to you. But to this point, if you look at the numbers nationwide (excluding NYC) you'll see things look largely similar state to state relative to population. NYC has it's own issues being so dense that few...
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    Masks at WDW

    Florida publishes the numbers daily. The latest country report (confirming the 45 deaths) is here: http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/action/report_archive/county/county_reports_latest.pdf
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    So I cant visit the resorts now unless I have a dining reservation?

    For now, while they're operating under restrictions, you are correct- that is what they've said. Guests entering a resort hotel will require a confirmed room reservation or a confirmed dining reservation for day guests. At the same time, bear in mind that the only resorts that have been...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Yeah, this is my overall view as well... this gives a good view of 1) how serious things actually are in terms of affected people; and 2) how well our systems are able to respond.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Agreed; it appears that we've successfully got capacity in the hospitals now. Now we're faced with the next question- while the healthcare system does not appear to be overloaded now, are we in a position that it will remain that way? Early indications from early opening states such as GA, TX...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    HEY! I *KNOW* you din't just dis the 'Garden, man!
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I'm not sure I'd put it quite that way. What I'd be looking at is the rate of hospitalizations and the rate of ICU usage, not so much the total hospitalized. In other words, if 100 new people were admitted today, I'd want to see no more than 100 admitted tomorrow, and hopefully fewer...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Right. And mine were from the actual source of the data from Florida as of this morning. It's important to realize that the JHU numbers aggregate data from a number of sources across the US. Setting aside the disparate reporting at the various county levels, that data explicitly includes major...
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