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  1. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    I think it depends where you sit. Depending on how fast it pitches and rolls and where the centre of movement is, some seats will move more aggressively than others. ISTR the front-left seat is particularly jarring, it does a lot of dropping at an angle - but I can't remember now if this was...
  2. osian

    EPCOT's Mission SPACE set to undergo exterior refresh

    It's far too big for its own good. I mean, just look at it. Taking over the whole entrance area like it owns the place.
  3. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    Yes. Have you ridden, or seen pictures or video, of the IJ ride in California or Tokyo? There are some cavernous, open spaces there, e.g. the bridge scene and the finale with the moving walls and rolling ball. You can often see other vehicles in the building. If, as you say, the rooms and ride...
  4. osian

    EPCOT's Mission SPACE set to undergo exterior refresh

    I would like it to stay and would prefer other attractions to go, but let's not start yet another "I hate Mssion Space because I have a weak stomach therefore no one should ever ride it ever again" debate, as this thread is about exterior refurbishment and I like seeing the updates to make it...
  5. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    Once again, this isn't the point I was making. However, to respond to your new point, I think we can also say that if it didn't change its theme and remained as Dinosaur, yet was refurbed to the standard we expect nowadays, it would still be considered an upgrade by the majority?
  6. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    Indeed. Let's just wait and see before declaring it a win based on a retheme to Indiana Jones. They might be doing an Imagination and shortening the ride path, or a Shanghai Pirates or Cosmic Rewind and doing it all via projections. And if it does not have some sort of animal as the fundamental...
  7. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    I am aware of that, but shall we go back to the original post that made me make a comment on it that people are now misunderstanding? Someone said: "Well, there will be an upgrade as we now know it will be rethemed to Indiana Jones" That does actually sound like they are conflating retheme...
  8. osian

    News The Seas pavilion new color scheme

    Indeed, they were. It also doesn't mean I can't keep expressing my dislike for Nemo!
  9. osian

    News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

    What are you referring to?
  10. osian

    News The Seas pavilion new color scheme

    Just a little tweak. There, much better.
  11. osian

    News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

    Hence they did something different, but still faithful to the ideas of both the dining district consisting of world cuisines, and the visitor centre to demonstrate how technology, industry and creativity shape the world we live in and will live in. Still the most Walt Disney thing the...
  12. osian

    News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

    "The "Walt the Dreamer" statue represents Walt later in his life when he was dreaming up the overall Florida Project and the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. He sits with a sense of fulfillment, enjoying the beauty of his realized dream: a park that represents pure optimism and...
  13. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    But it's not the same thing is it? That was my point. You're arguing a different point. Some people would say it's a downgrade of theme. There is no one-to-one correspondence. Retheme != Upgrade. Therefore to claim it's getting an upgrade because it's getting a retheme as though it's a fact...
  14. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    Yes. But retheme != upgrade. Which is my point. People mix the two up. You can change your clothing from a brand new suit to an old torn t-shirt, but it's not an upgrade. You can change the theme and make it a downgrade (Imagination?) You can keep the theme and make it an upgrade (Space...
  15. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    A retheme to Indiana Jones as just that, a retheme, not an upgrade. An upgrade would have been if, say, the vehicles had been replaced with more modern versions, or the animatronics refreshed, and scenes and effects made more realistic etc. The theme does not have to change for an upgrade to...
  16. osian

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    And that's the key really, it's not the theme or concept that needed updating, in fact it seemed to be quite an attractive theme. The execution needs refurb and enhancing. The disappointing thing is that Disney is unable to do this now without also changing the theme at the same time. Because...
  17. osian

    News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

    And including a quote from the man himself. "What the hell have they done to my vision?" - Walt Disney
  18. osian

    News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

    Perhaps they're rewriting it to become more timeless, more relevant, and more Disney?
  19. osian

    News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

    I would disagree with the "just a park for locals and food" bit! But Disney have been trying very hard to make EPCOT appeal to just kids as opposed to all ages, so they've obviously got the wrong IP, or done it wrong, or maybe they just shouldn't have tried. There have been some colossal IP...
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