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  1. ParentsOf4

    At opening in 1982, was EPCOT Center a "full day" park for you?

    We were young adults when we first visited Epcot in May 1983. We got there for opening and stayed until about 7-8 pm. This when (if I remember correctly) you could only buy alcohol at the restaurants. Definitely no Drinking Around The World for us! ;) We took our time to experience everything...
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    News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

    The plan includes a replacement of the Dinosaur land at DAK and an expansion behind the MK’s Big Thunder Mountain. WDW theme parks are getting investment dollars over the next 10 years.
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    Let's go to Disney World in 1973

    We did. Reposting a story I’ve posted here a few times, the last time in 2021. I was at the central hub at the Magic Kingdom in May 1982 with friends and noticed a bench with chipped paint on one arm. We joked about it for the rest of the day. We even took a photo. Wouldn't you know it, we...
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    News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

    Based on public statements, Disney wanted to cool things off some time ago. But with DeSantis running for president, any deal would have been spun as a DeSantis loss by his opponents. Now that he’s no longer running and the national spotlight is no longer on him, I suspect DeSantis was willing...
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    News Disney plans to reboot Voyage of the Little Mermaid stage show at Disney's Hollywood Studios

    I’ve been going to WDW for 40 years. During Covid, I was diligently wearing my mask both indoors and outdoors. I was at the Germany Pavilion and got a beer at the outdoor kiosk near the lake. I walked to a park bench, sat down, and then, as allowed, took off my mask to sip my beer. I spilled...
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    News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

    For reference, I’m quoting my post from June 2023. This post describes Judge Winsor’s background. Disney had an uphill battle as soon as the case was reassigned to Winsor.
  7. ParentsOf4

    Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens 2025

    The last time WDW opened this number of attractions at the same time was 1982. Both DHS and DAK were highly criticized for their lack of attractions when they first opened. Let’s be real - the last time Orlando saw this kind of theme park expansion was when Islands of Adventure opened in 1999.
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    Big River Grille and Brewing Works to close at Walt Disney World

    We went to Big River Grille many times. It used to be good for a burger, beer, and kettle chips. Several of the sandwiches were really good. We never enjoyed eating inside. It was an oddly shaped space, too small and too loud. Conversely, eating outside on a comfortable night as the sun was...
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    AKL vs Boardwalk

    We have stayed at both many times. As a standalone resort, Animal Kingdom Lodge is Disney’s best (IMO). Fantastic lobby, great pool, multiple dining options, good food court, perhaps WDW’s best hotel store, and giraffes! But it’s incredibly convenient to be able to walk to two theme parks...
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    AKL info?

    If you booked a hotel room (vs. a DVC room), standard view overlooks the bus stop and parking lot. Pool view is IMO much nicer.
  11. ParentsOf4

    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Respectfully, $180 million is a huge budget for a film, whether it’s 2019 or 2023. This simply shows that Disney has not been able to control its production costs for years. At the time, Terminator 2 (1991) was rumored to be the first film with a $100 million budget. (Although the exact budget...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    There’s another factor to consider: movie budgets. A big budget movie such as 1956’s The Ten Commandments cost $13 million, about $150 million adjusted for inflation. Looking at the most expensive movies ever made adjusted for inflation, nearly all of them have been released in the last 20...
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    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    Disney takes blocks of rooms out-of-service when hotel occupancy dips, but these rooms typically are still counted as Available Room Nights. For example, in 2019 when domestic hotel occupancy was 90%, Available Room Nights was 10,030. In 2022 when domestic hotel occupancy was 82%, Available...
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    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    Historically, a strong Disney domestic hotel occupancy in the 87-90% range. It's tough for Disney to achieve an occupancy above 90% due to the way people book vacations. For example, there's less demand for Sunday-to-Wednesday nights, some checkout on Saturday, some on Sunday, etc. Except for...
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    News Disney’s Fiscal Full Year and Q4 2023 Earnings Results Webcast

    Disney has been offering "35% off hotels" or "free dining" for decades. A 10% price increase on a hotel that was "35% off" last year is still a 10% increase on a hotel that is "35% off" this year. Frankly, Disney's WDW discounts today are not an enticing as they were a decade or two ago when...
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    News Disney’s Fiscal Full Year and Q4 2023 Earnings Results Webcast

    The generational trend you mention started a while ago. Disney started replacing U.S. baby boomers with international travelers, which now make up roughly 20% of WDW attendance. It’s these international vacationers who have helped buoy WDW numbers for the last two decades. WDW’s future growth...
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    News Disney’s Fiscal Full Year and Q4 2023 Earnings Results Webcast

    Having lived through it, I can assure you that institutional investors opposed Epcot way back when.
  18. ParentsOf4

    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    Disney World never was cheap but for its first 30 years, it was affordable. For example, the first ticket I ever bought with my own money was a 3-day hopper in May 1983. I paid $35 (tax included) for that 3-day ticket, today’s equivalent of $109. $109 is not cheap but it is affordable for 3...
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