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  1. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    It's ironic that some of Disney's policies have made DAS much more necessary. For a lot of people, it's the stationary time in the line that is the real issue. Whether it's physical (orthopedic issues, POTS, etc.) or mental (feeling trapped), it really is genuinely worse to stand in one place...
  2. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I think the key is plausible deniability. If I am at a self-checkout and, whoops, my package didn't scan right, who can prove it wasn't an accident? If I tell a CM that I am too anxious to wait in line, who can know how much I'm stretching the truth? I mean, I really *do* get anxious. But a...
  3. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    One thing we can probably all agree on is that Disney has not been great about the communication on this. Where did all their PR/communication people go? I feel like so many of their moves in recent years have been so hamfisted. I mean, no company wants to be portrayed as heartless to people...
  4. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Yeah...everyone keeps saying "cheaters gonna cheat," but I'm not sure that's always true. It's like those self-checkouts at supermarkets. They've increased shoplifting by *a lot* apparently. Presumably that's because it's easy and low risk. A lot fewer people are willing to sneak stuff into...
  5. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    There is quite a range of abilities among the "able-bodied/neurotypical" as well. There is no way our group could wait for an hour outside in the heat of summer (for SDD for instance). With certain people along, even 15 minutes is pushing it. But we're all "able bodied" by most definitions...
  6. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I don't know how much things will improve, if at all, but the system really does feel broken. When we last went, it took us over 45 minutes to move about 15 feet in the Frozen queue, with multiple 10+ minute stops. My daughter, who complains about *nothing* and *no one*, and finds every waking...
  7. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Ironically, the more people are in DAS, the more people will need it. Standby gets longer and more wretched. People can't hold out that long. People feel "trapped" on lines that don't move, and they have panic attacks. It's a weird self-feeding system that is headed in the wrong direction...
  8. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    DAS is not really standby, though, despite the appearance. For my group, we can handle at max maybe 2-3 cumulative hours a day of standing in line. We need to eat, rest, move, get cool, use the bathroom, etc. But if I could do those things while virtually waiting in line, we could do 8, 10...
  9. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    The thing is, they're not really wrong. That long list of issues does make it harder to wait in line. But any group of four or more is likely to have at least one person with one of those issues. I don't see how they can all be accommodated without just making everyone DAS. And then the...
  10. Jenny72

    New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Part of the issue is that ability is not black and white. People are talking about those who legitimately need DAS and then cheaters/liars. But I have several members in our party that really struggle to wait in line, for either physical or mental reasons. We skipped things entirely or just...
  11. Jenny72

    Rumor Frontierland Shootin' arcade to close and replaced with DVC Member lounge

    Huh. I'm actually a bit bummed about this. We had a stupid amount of fun with this last time we went. We were tired of waiting on lines and didn't feel like queuing up for anything, and kind of wandered by, and then it just ended up being stupid fun. Like, one of those unexpected things when...
  12. Jenny72

    Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

    It's funny...my kids won't let me buy Genie+ because they say they'll feel too bad for the people waiting in line, and they'll feel like jerks getting on rides ahead of others. I'm not eager to buy Genie+, so it works out fine, but it's not the response I expected from my kids, who are not...
  13. Jenny72

    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    Yeah, it's funny, but if I had had that same Mears experience from last week, except with Disney music playing, some Disney trivia on the way, and a bunch of drivers wearing Mickey ears or whatever, it would have felt a lot more cheerful than the experience we had. (Which, again, was not bad...
  14. Jenny72

    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    When I went last summer, I did notice at quick service restaurants in particular that often only a few lines were open when it seemed like more would be useful. I can remember when I went as a kid when there were sometimes CMs standing around and not doing much, and I understand that every...
  15. Jenny72

    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    I used the lastest Mears bus service recently, and while it's functional, it's somewhat less than magical. It sort of felt like a Greyhound terminal. There's no theming/color/joy except for one limp inflatable palm tree next to some piece of electronic equipment, which actually made the whole...
  16. Jenny72

    Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

    I mean, once you start thinking about it, it's very tricky. My elderly relatives can't stand in long lines, especially not in the sun. They also can't get around the park very fast or easily. Pretty much every fourth person in this country has some sensory issue, mental/cognitive health...
  17. Jenny72

    Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

    I have to admit, I don't really know what's an appropriate level of disability/difficulty for DAS. I have a family member who *hates* waiting in line, physically and mentally. It's at the point where we just skip a lot of his favorite rides completely because he just can't take it. He does...
  18. Jenny72

    Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

    Just another anecdote. Talked to an acquaintance who recently returned from DW. She said she had bought Genie+ thinking that there were two lines--the longer standby one and the short LL one. If you paid for Genie+, you got to use the shorter line. She was unhappily surprised to learn that...
  19. Jenny72

    Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

    Wow, there's even a queue for the website now. I mean, it works fine, and it's not a big deal, but wow, there's really a line for absolutely everything about WDW.
  20. Jenny72

    Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

    Thanks for the hotel recommendations but that wasn't really the point. It's less than two months out from a possible trip, but I'm locked out of a large number of properties because it's only a 5 day stay. I find that odd. Does Disney really feel that they're going to get a bunch of 7 day...
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