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  1. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, but yes I agree. I am not saying Disney is required to offer DAS to everyone. They very clearly have a lot of wiggle room where they could reduce who is eligible through DAS or remove it entirely as long as they offered alternative accommodations that met the...
  2. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    That's the part most aren't considering here. Re-rides are usually associated with kids who have (as Disney would put it) "Autism or similar". For the most part these people aren't riding ToT all day every day. My son's fixations are Pooh and SSE. If he rides those 4 times in one day and...
  3. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    It doesn't matter. The fact that there is a paid service that offers something similar doesn't have any bearing on DAS which is being offered as accommodation to regular standby. So that is what it would be measured against. Is Disney offering reasonable accommodation for an alternative to...
  4. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I think they would have to demonstrate that re-rides specifically (not just DAS in general) were causing infringement on standard guests or restrict standby for regular guests to a single ride on those attractions as well. Otherwise they would be saying someone whose disability prohibits them...
  5. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    But DAS isn't an alternative to Genie+. It is an alternative method of waiting for your standby time. If standby guests can queue over and over again for Small World, telling DAS they cannot would be restricting DAS guests to different services than what is available to standby.
  6. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Yes, that seems to be the starting point. And may be the entirety of the process for all I know. But my open question is how the pre-validation calls will go. What will they do with someone calling in saying they want DAS for Anxiety. How will they treat some of the people who have told...
  7. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Not saying they will do this or even want to...but if they wanted to crack down they would need to run it more like a School's IEP process. You don't ask what condition you are requesting this for and then offer a one size fits all solution in DAS. You ask them what specific challenges they...
  8. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    All we know, unless I missed something (its a long thread), is that "Autism and similar" is the disability Disney is using as the primary reason for requiring DAS. But as the email posted earlier in this thread specified, the pre-screening will offer "individualized conversations" that go over...
  9. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    yes, but there is still an approval process. If you have a physical disability and want to use their return to queue system you can do so without pre-approval. In fact, I would assume any guest can use it. DAS still needs pre-screening and approval of your condition. And they have added...
  10. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    To give Disney the benefit of the doubt (a losing proposition usually) we haven't really seen the part of this that is likely intended to curb abuse yet. They are moving physical disabilities to alternative accommodations that don't require approval as one half of the equation. The other half...
  11. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Yes I agree. They seem to have decided they can reduce overall DAS usage through the use of alternative accommodations for some disabilities. Which is definitely possible. Also might be a disaster ending up with them in court. As of now I think they are perfectly within legal bounds with...
  12. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Apologies if I misinterpreted. In general I agree. They should crack down on abuse more. It gives those of us who use DAS appropriately a bad name and makes everyone's experience worse. They just have to be very careful about how they go about that.
  13. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Yes, they most definitely have the ability to reduce the level of accommodation provided currently. Disney goes above and beyond on accommodation and could easily reduce what they offer. But what they can’t do is exclude someone with. A valid disability from the accommodation they do offer if...
  14. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Wasn’t implying it was. The poster was saying that he would prefer that Disney sacrifice reasonable accommodation for some percentage of valid recipients in order to crack down on abuse. That is not something they can do even if they wanted to. What that reasonable accommodation is could be...
  15. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Disney can’t create a system though that knowingly excludes valid and reasonable accommodation requests to someone who is legitimately disabled just to try and restrict abuse. That would open them up to numerous lawsuits. Whether someone thinks it’s for the greater good or not, I can’t imagine...
  16. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    I don't think its all that uncommon. I use both Genie+ and DAS. My son, who is the DAS recipient, doesn't do thrill rides (probably not uncommon among DAS users due to physical or sensory limitations) so we need other alternatives for the rest of the family. That being said, the abusers...
  17. Gomer

    Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

    Pure speculation on my part, but all these changes seem to imply to me that Disney is gearing up to start denying a lot more requests. - Altered language as to who qualifies - Increased staffing for pre-registration assistance - No more approval at GR in the park (don't want to create a scene)...
  18. Gomer

    Disney to mandate full vaccinations to employees

    This seems like important information for some in this thread... https://vaers.hhs.gov/eSubDownload/index.jsp?fn=2021VAERSData.csv Bolding is my own.
  19. Gomer

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    I'm not asking anyone to prove anything. As a matter of fact, I said the opposite. That we won't ever have definitive proof. Best states can do is weigh what we do know (all things being equal, proper mask usage reduces spread) and weigh that as a risk/reward calculation as to whether mask...
  20. Gomer

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    And that is great news for the people of Florida. But it doesn't provide a basis to say that other states would have done better with no mask mandate, nor that Florida might have had an even better record if they had had strict mandates in place. It is a single variable among many. It's just...
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