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  1. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    Their employees are required to follow Covid testing protocols and can bypass them if they volunteer their vaccination info. So it leads to the irony of the hosts of their programs warning America of the evils of companies asking for your vaccination info while themselves offering it up to their...
  2. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    I'm not being flippant, I'm being serious. If there were hospitals that were so under-attended that they were laying off staff, it's strange that they didn't take on some of the Covid caseload from others. I agree that it's an unusual situation and a learning experience for the future; it's very...
  3. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    That may indeed be true! I'm only speaking from my experience with hospitals all over the country during the lockdown, and all of them were trying to save as many lives as possible. There may indeed be others with empty unused beds and nurses twiddling their fingers in boredom. Maybe they should...
  4. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    It was. Hospitals across the country were turning away their usual roster of patients because they were using all available space for Covid patients, including hallways. As a sidenote, when hospitals need to use all of their resources to treat Covid patients, they don't make any income...
  5. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    That's very misleading. I work in the hospital industry and many hospitals and major hospital systems nationwide ran out of ICU space so quickly that they converted their inpatient and L&D areas into temporary COVID areas to take more patients. So they were still taking COVID patients, who were...
  6. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    My response is: too bad. I don't care. I sincerely don't care if people are mad that they have to get vaccinated or put on masks. I wouldn't expect anybody to be cheerful about wearing one, but at some point, people have to be adults about this stuff and do what's best for themselves, their...
  7. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    It's not the job of the ER/ICU to judge the morality of someone who's sick or injured. It's their job to try to save lives. If someone's in the ICU because they have COVID-19 and can't breathe, they don't get quizzed on their politics They just get treated.
  8. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    This is a good point. Likely his best option is to call the gov's bluff by declaring local emergencies and letting the court deal with it, because doing something seems like it's better than his other option, which is doing nothing.
  9. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    As I understand it, all of the hospitals in the Orange County area are rapidly filling or already filled and are going back to lockdown-time policies of turning down elective procedures to prioritize Covid cases. So yeah, it's bad.
  10. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    When masks were required, the CMs were simply reminding guests that masks must cover your nose & mouth, but of course, that only lasted until the CM's back was turned and the mask would slip down or off again. I saw plenty of guest confrontation, but CMs said they couldn't do anything unless...
  11. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    True, but for context (so that you don't think I'm immensely stupid for going there)... ...a trip in mid-2020 was not remotely in the cards for me until my parents-in-law called to say that friends of theirs had gone down & found the parks to be nearly empty, full of fully-masked people being...
  12. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    My family and I visited last October early in the month, when masks were still 100% required, and as strongly as I support masks, I feel exactly the same way as you. It was in the low 90s with FL humidity; walking around EPCOT with zero shade and breathing ultra humid air through a mask was...
  13. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    Yes, as we've seen over the past year, there's a lot of very small-minded people out there who take any opportunity to distrust scientists. I'd sincerely like to believe that if the nation's top disease experts said "hey, America, when we said you didn't have to wear masks, we meant the people...
  14. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    It certainly seems to have. Cities all over the country are talking about bringing them back since they saw cases shoot up right after mask mandates were dropped. That's very true, and I'm wondering if that might be part of the rumored Genie/FP replacement that would essentially create virtual...
  15. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    It's a tough situation, yeah. I was reading an interview with some of the CDC folks who seemed really frustrated; when they issued the guidance of "Get the shot, and you don't have to wear a mask!", they honestly thought it would encourage most people to get vaccinated so they could go without...
  16. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    Case numbers are skyrocketing, especially in Southern states & Florida specifically, due to Delta and the unvaccinated; it's scary. I totally agree that the back and forth gets confusing and frustrating for people who, understandably, just want this to be over and took heart with the clear...
  17. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    That is 100% accurate. It might be closer to say it's full of old libertarians who call themselves Reps because it's easier. The folks I know down there moved to Florida to avoid as many taxes as possible.
  18. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    I appreciate the follow-up; I wasn't trying to claim that, medically, previous infection is useless. As you say, it's looking like it can offer a level of immunity. My comment was a comparison between getting the vaccine or not -- it's still important to get it, even if you suspect you've had...
  19. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    That's the attitude that worries me most. Especially since Fox/Newsmax has been telling people "It's no worse than a mild cold," which leads some folks who get mild colds to think "It was probably Covid! No big deal! Must be immune now!" which is never going to end well.
  20. Otterhead

    News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

    So, I'm actually kind of fascinated now; someone earlier in the thread stated that they were around 70-80% vaccinated, and it turns out, they're right! So despite being one of the largest concentration of solidly red-state voting Republicans, and a place where a friend who lives there says...
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