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  1. MerlinTheGoat

    News Disneyland to give Snow White’s Scary Adventures dark ride a major facelift in 2020

    Here's the version at Paris (i dunno if it was already posted before)- As I've said before, this was previously an almost exact clone of the 1983 version at Disneyland CA. The show building is exactly the same size, the track layout is identical (even sharing the vehicle storage with the...
  2. MerlinTheGoat

    News Disneyland to give Snow White’s Scary Adventures dark ride a major facelift in 2020

    Getting the positive some praise first- the new ending scenes look decent. I'm also glad the cliff scene is still present in some capacity, I assumed correctly that they would be replacing it for the new ending. But i'm glad it was relocated and not cut outright. Other than that, the changes...
  3. MerlinTheGoat

    News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

    There's only one piece of concept artwork of the outside (which was likely thrown together without much of a plan). Nothing further has been shown or detailed. And something that is pretty much certain to differ from this art is that they're not going to put Tiana and Louis figures outside...
  4. MerlinTheGoat

    News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

    As a reminder, I'll repeat what MansionButler84 said earlier in the thread. Even if you're someone who is okay with the concept of a PATF overhaul, it would still require a budget in the hundreds of millions to do this any sort of justice. AND a talented creative team on board. Most of the...
  5. MerlinTheGoat

    News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

    Indeed. In fact, Splash Mountain itself was conceptualized and had a plan and model built without Michael Eisner (or Frank Wells) knowing about it beforehand. The story about how it came about is quite well known too. Eisner was given a tour of imagineering in the mid 1980s and was being pitched...
  6. MerlinTheGoat

    News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

    I'm sadly expecting most if not all of the current animatronics to be scrapped due to their basic shapes not fitting with PATF's characters. Most of SOTS/Splash's animals are extremely "anthropomorphic", which is a hybrid of animal AND human characteristics and proportions. The type of designs...
  7. MerlinTheGoat

    News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

    The person who initially broke the news of this project weeks before it was announced (WDW Pro) said the budget is about $50 million. There was an even lower number floating around ($30-$35 million) but it was shared privately and I can't provide the source. So feel free to take with a grain of...
  8. MerlinTheGoat

    News Refurbishment coming soon to Disney's Polynesian Village Resort - Moana details to be included

    Just because something exudes a non-modern appearance doesn't mean it lacks value or beauty. Modernization can often lead to a negative impact on decor as it frequently reduces detail. That said, I grew up in the 90s and never associated the lobby centerpiece with outdated looking hotels. It was...
  9. MerlinTheGoat

    News Refurbishment coming soon to Disney's Polynesian Village Resort - Moana details to be included

    The discussion here is about the original large lobby centerpiece, are you trying to claim that's offensive? It is literally just a rock and water fountain with tropical plants and live birds... Two of your three complains are not subjective, they are factually and provably wrong. There was...
  10. MerlinTheGoat

    News Refurbishment coming soon to Disney's Polynesian Village Resort - Moana details to be included

    The original Poly lobby was a simple square perimeter, and two of the three things you complained about were fully visible right as you enter the front door. Seating surrounded the middle structure on all sides, including the front. You could also sit on the side of the structure if the seats...
  11. MerlinTheGoat

    Rumor Pirates Of The Caribbean "Refurbishment"

    The uphill waterfall itself still looks far and away better than the speedramp and also still has much more surrounding scenery. The speedramp at WDW is generic and industrial, surrounded only by narrow flat stone walls and fake windows. Haunted Mansion disguises the speedramps a lot better by...
  12. MerlinTheGoat

    Rumor Pirates Of The Caribbean "Refurbishment"

    Disneyland's "back up the waterfall" is still a lot better than the speedramp at WDW at least (Tokyo also has the speedramp). Again heaping praise on the original Paris version of the ride, I felt it handled its lift best of all. There was a chain/pulley added to the scenery to help sort of...
  13. MerlinTheGoat

    Rumor Pirates Of The Caribbean "Refurbishment"

    While I do heavily prefer the versions at Paris and California, I will say that the buildup and placement of WDW's drop is one element I feel it does better than the other versions. It's a shame about the absence of the Bayou/Lagoon, longer caves and back up the waterfall scenes though.
  14. MerlinTheGoat

    Rumor Pirates Of The Caribbean "Refurbishment"

    I generally love drops in water rides. Splash Mtn is a favorite. And the drops in DLP's POTC don't bother me either. But WDW's POTC drop gives me the creeps for some reason. Partially because of the creepy scene buildup, but it's also pitch black and feels a bit jerky at the bottom. Several...
  15. MerlinTheGoat

    Rumor Pirates Of The Caribbean "Refurbishment"

    That's interesting, I didn't realize they had plans to do any of that. WDW's unload is where the gunpowder room is at DL, dunno if the square footage is comparable though. I wonder if they were trying to "complete" some of the cut scenes. I can't find many photos of the backstage lift area...
  16. MerlinTheGoat

    News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

    Mermaid's budget was reportedly $100 million, and that's the California version which has a very simplistic queue/facade by comparison (no elaborate rockwork). As I understand it, the fancy facade at WDW was not a part of the ride's budget either (you can also tell that it was designed by a...
  17. MerlinTheGoat

    News Small World queue changes coming

    That has always been there, just given different colors throughout the years. It was blue in the 70s and 80s.
  18. MerlinTheGoat

    Joe Rohde announces retirement from WDI

    Also, I assume Epic Universe is dead at this point. It's not a good attraction, and a horrible replacement for ToT (thankfully WDW's superior original hasn't met the same fate quite yet). But I don't really blame him for its failure as he did indeed seem forced into it and likely did the best...
  19. MerlinTheGoat

    Joe Rohde announces retirement from WDI

    Welp, there it is. Not everything he did turned out well (Mission Breakout). But he was among the final remnants of actually talented imagineers who still commanded at least some degree of influence over executive leadership at Disney. I can't fathom any possibility that this will have anything...
  20. MerlinTheGoat

    News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - attraction discussion only

    If it was down for multiple days or a week or longer (outside of a scheduled refurb), then i'd worry. But an all-day downtime isn't that unusual for a ride (particularly a complex one like Splash). Unfortunate, but not uncommon. While I haven't been to WDW in about a year now and can't speak to...
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