the MANY problems with Genie+ and paid FastPass (or whatever they are calling it)

Jeff4272

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That. Is an opinion. Not a "problem". Please continue with your monologue.
Thats a fact

What time did the first ride "sell out" with MaxPass? Now reduce the available options for 2/3rds since AK and Epcot only have 4 rides on Genie+


FACT

You are the stereotype Disney apologist: "Leave Disney alone, they are awesome, ill pay whatever they want"
 
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Muffinpants

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They should have made it 30$ a day than it wouldn't sell out. 15$ is just to easy for alot of people to compare to a Starbucks drink or some other item they can cut from there day. 30$ would be a table service meal and much less likely to be bought thus never sell out.
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Bring Me A Shrubbery
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Thats a fact

What time did the first ride "sell out" with MaxPass? Now reduce the avialable options for 2/3rds since AK and Epcot only have 4 rides on Genie+


FACT

You are the stereotype Disney apologist: "Leave Disney alone, they are awesome, ill pay whatever they want"

Not a fact. Your entire thesis is subjective. It is your opinion. It is how you view it. Others disagree. Attacking people because they don't share your view doesn't make it fact.
 

Jeff4272

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That. Is an opinion. Not a "problem". Please continue with your monologue.

They should have made it 30$ a day than it wouldn't sell out. 15$ is just to easy for alot of people to compare to a Starbucks drink or some other item they can cut from there day. 30$ would be a table service meal and much less likely to be bought thus never sell out.
Be careful what you wish for, but I do agree a bit...

The real problem is there's not enough rides.........
 

John park hopper

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They should have made it 30$ a day than it wouldn't sell out. 15$ is just to easy for alot of people to compare to a Starbucks drink or some other item they can cut from there day. 30$ would be a table service meal and much less likely to be bought thus never sell out.
Give it couple of months in true Disney fashion they will raise it to 30 bucks and higher
 

Jeff4272

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Not a fact. Your entire thesis is subjective. It is your opinion. It is how you view it. Others disagree. Attacking people because they don't share your view doesn't make it fact.
Let me remind you of your first 2 posts so we can determine who is attacking who here

1) I'd pay $15 to shut this thread down, $25 if I didn't have to wait
2) You've failed to identify "a problem". You're just whining.


Weird because thats what you are doing........Attacking me....Talk about the pot calling the kettle.......You attacked my post that brings up valid problems with Genie+

That is fact..........

So you think you'll get 10 Genie+ rides in Animal Kingdom? Tell me them......
FACT = you can't because there are only 4 on Genie+

You are the stereotype Disney apologist: "Leave Disney alone, they are awesome, ill pay whatever they want"
 

Muffinpants

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Couldn't you in theory get in alot more genie+ rides in lower ride parks by riding them more than once? We don't know the time limit in between yet. It could be an hour it could be 30 min.. or even as soon as you tap. If it's the later.. within an hour you can do 2 rides. Stay at the park 5 hours and you can reach 10 rides if and only if you pick the next available.
 

Jeff4272

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Couldn't you in theory get in alot more genie+ rides in lower ride parks by riding them more than once? We don't know the time limit in between yet. It could be an hour it could be 30 min.. or even as soon as you tap. If it's the later.. within an hour you can do 2 rides. Stay at the park 5 hours and you can reach 10 rides if and only if you pick the next available.
Theoretically yes, but with fewer rides, the availability will sell out sooner

for eg. in Epcot, everyone will book Test Track at 7am.....TT availability will "sellout" in short order like old paper Fast Passes used to so people make sure they get on it................

Once it's gone (or even just a late afternoon return time), they will move onto Soarin or Frozen and they will sell out

So once you are able to book your second ride, theres a good chance only thing left will be spaceship earth but that standby time is only 20 mins so why did you buy Genie+ to begin with?

And this is AFTER GoG and Remy open, the 2 rides on BG or paid FP (whatever they are calling it)

Before GoG, TT will be part of that so the options are even fewer......... Epcot will have Remy and TT on paid FP and only have Soarin, Frozen and Spaceship earth on Genie+ until GOG opens

Will never work
 

Muffinpants

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Theoretically yes, but with fewer rides, the availability will sell out sooner

for eg. in Epcot, everyone will book Test Track at 7am.....TT availability will "sellout" in short order like old paper Fast Passes used to so people make sure they get on it................

Once it's gone (or even just a late afternoon return time), they will move onto Soarin or Frozen and they will sell out

So once you are able to book your second ride, theres a good chance only thing left will be spaceship earth but that standby time is only 20 mins so why did you buy Genie+ to begin with?

And this is AFTER GoG and Remy open, the 2 rides on BG or paid FP (whatever they are calling it)

Before GoG, TT will be part of that so the options are even fewer......... Epcot will have Remy and TT on paid FP and only have Soarin, Frozen and Spaceship earth on Genie+ until GOG opens

Will never work
Idk if this thought process works tho. At 7am TT won't sell out all day because than it will lock folks out all day for other rides. Say if all 10-3pm tt passes are sold than folks would be forced to grab a late one. Than hope the system let's you grab another at some point. Using the system to book what you want when you want won't work. We need to use it as Disney dictating the day and going to the next available ride all day. So let's say

You show up at 10 nothing booked. You look and see the next ride is Nemo in 15 min. You go to Nemo tap in and than see the next is living. With the land in 30 min. You shop eat something than go tap in. Now you see spaceship earth available at 12 Wich is 20 min from now. You head over and now you notice test track open for 2pm. Since most people who booked at 7 wanted befor lunch. The rides won't sell out instantly due to people not wanting to wait 6 hours to use a product they purchased.
 

NickMaio

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Couldn't you in theory get in alot more genie+ rides in lower ride parks by riding them more than once? We don't know the time limit in between yet. It could be an hour it could be 30 min.. or even as soon as you tap. If it's the later.. within an hour you can do 2 rides. Stay at the park 5 hours and you can reach 10 rides if and only if you pick the next available.
I read online that you can get another genie LL pass once you start lining up for your ride.

So grab your next LL while waiting to ride.
 

Muffinpants

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I read online that you can get another genie LL pass once you start lining up for your ride.

So grab your next LL while waiting to ride.
Right so no one is gonna book farther out than an hour. It would be wasted money. More folks who purchase this will be going on rides they would prolly skip. No way rides will sell out from the morning with it working this way.
 

Jeff4272

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Idk if this thought process works tho. At 7am TT won't sell out all day because than it will lock folks out all day for other rides. Say if all 10-3pm tt passes are sold than folks would be forced to grab a late one. Than hope the system let's you grab another at some point. Using the system to book what you want when you want won't work. We need to use it as Disney dictating the day and going to the next available ride all day. So let's say

You show up at 10 nothing booked. You look and see the next ride is Nemo in 15 min. You go to Nemo tap in and than see the next is living. With the land in 30 min. You shop eat something than go tap in. Now you see spaceship earth available at 12 Wich is 20 min from now. You head over and now you notice test track open for 2pm. Since most people who booked at 7 wanted befor lunch. The rides won't sell out instantly due to people not wanting to wait 6 hours to use a product they purchased.
Not true.......you get next available time.....

Why didn't paper fast passes work that way then? because people wanted to guarantee the top rides

They will sell out just like paper FP did........You can book a second ride 90-120 mins after, even if you haven't used your first (like stacking MaxPasses worked) but the only problem is, there arent enough rides


understand now?
 

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