News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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champdisney

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The folks "WHO COULD DIE" have had months to get vaccinated.
Problem is a lot of these vaccinated folks are still catching the virus and spreading it around. Hence, the reason why this new "variant" is said to target the younger-unvaxxed crowd. Haven't really heard of any cases regarding young children catching this thing. If that's what is being said, I sense that this is a plot to scare people into getting their vaccines.
 

CaptainAmerica

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Like cancer patients who can not get the vaccine? Like children under 12? Those folks?
Once again, UNVACCINATED children under 12 are at lower risk of serious illness or death than fully vaccinated adults. This has always been true and continues to be true with Delta. If you refuse to believe that, then we're not just disagreeing. You're plain wrong on the facts.

Regarding cancer patients who are so severely ill that they can't take the vaccine, I don't expect that you run into many of them in line at Space Mountain. You're talking about bedridden folks on death's doorstep. They're not "out and about."

The vast, vast, vast majority of immunocompromised individuals, including cancer patients, have been eligible to take the vaccine since the beginning. Many of them were given first priority from their states.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
“Pavia said he’s seen a marked increase in hospitalized children.”
And Dr. Jim Versalovic, the pathologist-in-chief at Texas Children's Hospital, said that "We have no firm evidence that the disease severity in children and adolescents is any different with the delta variant."

And Dr. Jennifer Lighter, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health, said the delta variant, while it is "certainly more contagious," doesn't appear to be more dangerous to children than other variants.

Bottom line, get the vaccine if you can, reduce the risk for yourself and for everyone else. Then we can stop quoting all these doctors.
 

Father Robinson

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Problem is a lot of these vaccinated folks are still catching the virus and spreading it around. Hence, the reason why this new "variant" is said to target the younger-unvaxxed crowd. Haven't really heard of any cases regarding young children catching this thing. If that's what is being said, I sense that this is a plot to scare people into getting their vaccines.
It's not targeting any crowd, anyone can get it, regardless of vaccinated or not. The problem is those who are vaccinated are safe from severe illness or death, but they can pass it to those who aren't, like their young kids who can get really sick or not, or continue passing it hence keeping this bloody pandemic going.
 

champdisney

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It's not targeting any crowd, anyone can get it, regardless of vaccinated or not. The problem is those who are vaccinated are safe from severe illness or death, but they can pass it to those who aren't, like their young kids who can get really sick or not, or continue passing it hence keeping this bloody pandemic going.
Considering that 90% of seniors have been vaccinated. I'd say that yes, it's going after younger individuals who have yet to be vaccinated.
 

Father Robinson

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Once again, UNVACCINATED children under 12 are at lower risk of serious illness or death than fully vaccinated adults. This has always been true and continues to be true with Delta. If you refuse to believe that, then we're not just disagreeing. You're plain wrong on the facts.

Regarding cancer patients who are so severely ill that they can't take the vaccine, I don't expect that you run into many of them in line at Space Mountain. You're talking about bedridden folks on death's doorstep. They're not "out and about."

The vast, vast, vast majority of immunocompromised individuals, including cancer patients, have been eligible to take the vaccine since the beginning. Many of them were given first priority from their states.
Dude, first of all, why are you limiting this conversation to just Disney? Last I heard, mask mandates were coming back outside the park doors as well..

Also, it doesn't matter how sick kids have gotten, thr fact is some have died, a low number, yes, but that is a risk they are not willing to take! Just an unnecessary risk, that's all!
 

relic827

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The problem is that there is no way to distinguish between the vaccinated and unvaccinated because businesses are not being allowed to make that distinction. Everyone has to be treated equally. So they’re either treated as all vaccinated or all unvaccinated. The latter is what is safer for society at the moment. People are willing to take a fraction of a fraction of a percent of risk if they know they’re around others who only pose that fraction of a fraction of a risk. But right now, no one knows that because they’re not allowed to know that.
 

StarWarsGirl

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Why should I support a company that is not moving us towards the end goal of getting everyone vaccinated.

They can do this is multiple ways but so far have chosen none.

If other major companies like Google and Netflix can require vaccination for their employees, Disney can also.
Netflix:
Has 9400 employees, only requiring vaccines for those on sets.

Google: 130,000 employees, most of whom are currently remote, no plans to return to offices until October so employees have time to get a vaccine or get an exemption. A union represents roughly 700 employees.

Disney: 240,000 employees, including 100,000 employees in the theme parks division. Unions represent 43,000 employees.

Not saying that Disney couldn't mandate a vaccine, but they're going to have a much tougher time of getting everyone vaccinated than Google and Netflix.
 

Ponderer

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"Crystallize your lungs"!?

Is there no threshold for misinformation that will get you suspended on here?

Also known as “ground glass opacities.” Try harder.


 

Crunchie9

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You're wrong. Delta is more contagious. Anyone at any age can get it. If you don't believe that, than you're misinformed, uninformed or ignorant.
that is vague.

death rates for children under 12 are under .01% we are talking under six sigma 3.4 per million levels here.

Something to do with their small noses.

also, in BC the hospilizations are 95% non vax, with a majority of the 5% that did get the vax being over the age of 80.


People are not dying anywhere near the rate they were last year.

yes people are dying but it’s the unvaxxed.
 

Weather_Lady

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Interesting that we have yet to hear about Sea World or Universal... especially Universal. They've always been pushing to remove restrictions as fast as possible, so it's interesting to see what happens when others are pulling back.
Several posters asked Universal about it on its official Facebook page for Passholders. Obviously things could change at any time, but so far Universal has simply (and somewhat coyly) responded with a link to its "current guidelines" -- which are exactly the same as its former guidelines enacted 5/29 -- which specify that vaccinated guests do not need to mask up. https://www.universalorlando.com/web/en/us/plan-your-visit/safety-faqs
 

KrzyKtty

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Sever posters asked Universal about it on its official Facebook page for Passholders. Obviously things could change at any time, but so far Universal has simply (and somewhat coyly) responded with a link to its "current guidelines" -- which are exactly the same as its former guidelines -- which specify that vaccinated guests do not need to mask up. https://www.universalorlando.com/web/en/us/plan-your-visit/safety-faqs
If that's true they should probably change their verbiage a little bit since it states that it follows CDC guidelines which it no longer does lol.
 

correcaminos

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Once again, UNVACCINATED children under 12 are at lower risk of serious illness or death than fully vaccinated adults. This has always been true and continues to be true with Delta. If you refuse to believe that, then we're not just disagreeing. You're plain wrong on the facts.

Regarding cancer patients who are so severely ill that they can't take the vaccine, I don't expect that you run into many of them in line at Space Mountain. You're talking about bedridden folks on death's doorstep. They're not "out and about."

The vast, vast, vast majority of immunocompromised individuals, including cancer patients, have been eligible to take the vaccine since the beginning. Many of them were given first priority from their states.
Just curious how you feel about those who are around cancer patients who cannot vaccinate and still refuse to do so themselves thereby putting the cancer patient at risk. Not Disney. No judgment, just curious as it pertains to family.
 
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