Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Patcheslee]

Anyone know when the next Orange Co vaccination rate will be released? I don't know the press schedule.

 

[Trauma]

It seems like the CDC has basically thrown in the towel.

Seems like they are following the science.

Im vaccinated I don’t need a mask.

 

[DCBaker]

Anyone know when the next Orange Co vaccination rate will be released? I don't know the press schedule.

Most likely during the presser tomorrow.

 

[GoofGoof]

That to me is just "good enough". The plan here is if 75% of the population has 1 dose then most of the outdoor restrictions will be dropped. Masking indoors and social distancing will stay til the majority have their 2nd dose. They are hopeful that by July most of Ontario will have their 2nd dose.

IMO the concern with being just good enough is many pockets were vaccinations are low Covid will continue to be a problem.

The vaccines won’t be approved for kids under 12 until the Fall. 75% of the population would require 90%+ of eligible people to get it.

 

[bryanfze55]

Is every guest at WDW vaccinated?

In the absence of vaccine passports, that will never be the case. Vaccine passports or personal risk assessment will need to happen.

 

[Jrb1979]

It seems like the CDC has basically thrown in the towel.

Might as well many places have stopped listening to them anyways.

 

[GoofGoof]

So the vaccine rate should skyrocket right? All these people saying they would get the vaccine if they could stop wearing a mask need to put their money where their mouths were (or in this case their arms since the shots are free)

 

[GoofGoof]

Is every guest at WDW vaccinated?

No, but this sets up Disney and other national chains to implement a dropping of the mask requirements when a certain percent of the population is vaccinated. So we will never know who or how many people are vaccinated. If a large enough percentage of people are vaccinated that triggers the rule to assume everyone is. Until you reach the target percent you assume not enough are vaccinated so everyone wears a mask and does some distancing.

 

[Andrew C]

So the vaccine rate should skyrocket right? All these people saying they would get the vaccine if they could stop wearing a mask need to put their money where their mouths were (or in this case their arms since the shots are free)

Depends how states and businesses react I imagine. Pros and cons to everything....I see this new guidance as a pro but we will see how it plays out.

 

[GoofGoof]

It seems like the CDC has basically thrown in the towel.

Not necessarily. At some point this had to happen. We can debate the level of vaccination needed to reach it, but this was eventually going to be the case. In practical terms it’s impossible to know who is vaccinated and who isn’t in a large crowd public setting but that’s not the case in schools or at work places. Now employers and high schools can switch gears to fully vaccinated are mask free. That will drive a lot more of the unvaccinated in.

 

[Jrb1979]

The vaccines won’t be approved for kids under 12 until the Fall. 75% of the population would require 90%+ of eligible people to get it.

I don't think they are including those under 12 right now. I don't mind the plan they have in place.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Wow, actually something worth reading on Slate:

Most People Are Thinking of Herd Immunity All Wrong

The end of the pandemic will be a slow fade.

slate.com

Basic summary: We'll know we're at herd immunity after the fact, not by any predetermined estimations.

 

[correcaminos]

Go out to return costumes from the play and apparently I missed a bunch. Off to try to catch up on CDC stuff before I go in to put props away.

 

[GoofGoof]

Depends how states and businesses react I imagine. Pros and cons to everything....I see this new guidance as a pro but we will see how it plays out.

Agreed. In a simple example if a factory or warehouse tells their workers that they are now following the CDC guidelines and no longer requiring masks for fully vaccinated workers I guarantee 99% get the vaccine (or buy a fake vaccination card). I worked one Summer in a hot warehouse loading trucks and I can tell you that must be absolutely miserable while wearing a mask. Easy decision.

 

[Touchdown]

Glad to see the CDC might pull this move, I’m certainly ready, and could frankly care less about the danger to unvaccinated adults. It’s just hard on parents <12 hopefully those studies finish soon.

 

[GoofGoof]

I don't think they are including those under 12 right now. I don't mind the plan they have in place.

Right, same here. So not much different than the 70% target in PA now or in a place like OC Florida. 70 vs 75.

 

[Jrb1979]

Agreed. In a simple example if a factory or warehouse tells their workers that they are now following the CDC guidelines and no longer requiring masks for fully vaccinated workers I guarantee 99% get the vaccine (or buy a fake vaccination card). I worked one Summer in a hot warehouse loading trucks and I can tell you that must be absolutely miserable while wearing a mask. Easy decision.

You know most companies won't implement anything like that. They will just drop all rules and go back to normal. Don't be surprised when you hear of outbreaks at factories and warehouses again.

 

[sullyinMT]

So the vaccine rate should skyrocket right? All these people saying they would get the vaccine if they could stop wearing a mask need to put their money where their mouths were (or in this case their arms since the shots are free)

The disparaging FB comment I shared aside, our county mass site had a line around the building for $50. I don’t care if people were leaving to buy a carton of smokes, more vaccines are a good thing.

No, but this sets up Disney and other national chains to implement a dropping of the mask requirements when a certain percent of the population is vaccinated. So we will never know who or how many people are vaccinated. If a large enough percentage of people are vaccinated that triggers the rule to assume everyone is. Until you reach the target percent you assume not enough are vaccinated so everyone wears a mask and does some distancing.

Theme parks might be last to go with indoor masks. I agree this sets up a valid argument for Costco, Target, etc if we get to some national threshold around 70% of all Americans.

 

[danlb_2000]

Depends how states and businesses react I imagine. Pros and cons to everything....I see this new guidance as a pro but we will see how it plays out.

For retail businesses, they will either have to verify that you are vaccinated before allowing you to enter without a mask, or just assume everyone who is unmasked is vaccinated whether they are or not.

 

[DCBaker]

I believe the announcement will be made here, during this update happening now -