Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Parker in NYC]

I def think we will see Halloween and Christmas parties this year WITH FIREWORKS.

No doubt in my mind.

Hey, my middle name's Doubt. Might I interest you in a little mindcontrol?

 

[JAKECOTCenter]

The US just announced that they are waiving the patents for the vaccine! Treaudu, Johnson, its your move. This pandemic will certainly end faster now worldwide

 

[Tony Perkis]

It’s over guys. By July there won’t be a single remaining restriction. Start making peace with that fact.

I can guarantee you that even if shortsighted governors like DeSantis and Abbott wave the restrictions, private enterprises and companies won’t just wave them as easily.

 

[Parker in NYC]

I can guarantee you that even if shortsigated governors like DeSantis and Abbott wave the restrictions, private enterprises and companies won’t just wave them as easily.

This.

 

[GoofGoof]

The US just announced that they are waiving the patents for the vaccine! Treaudu, Johnson, its your move. This pandemic will certainly end faster now worldwide

I saw that. Get those vaccines cranking. India is crazy sad right now

 

[Parker in NYC]

I can guarantee you that even if shortsigated governors like DeSantis and Abbott wave the restrictions, private enterprises and companies won’t just wave them as easily.

I would like to add Cuomo and Mayor DeBlasio to the list. Just because they may say things will be "open 100%", we already have guarantees that private enterprises will not be following suit.

 

[GoofGoof]

It’s over guys. By July there won’t be a single remaining restriction. Start making peace with that fact.

I’d love it if that happened. Just need to keep getting people on to take the vaccine. I do know a guy who said last Spring that Covid would be over soon and it didn’t work out well for him....he lost his job and got kicked out of his house

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I can guarantee you that even if shortsigated governors like DeSantis and Abbott wave the restrictions, private enterprises and companies won’t just wave them as easily.

I would like to add Cuomo and Mayor DeBlasio to the list. Just because they may say things will be "open 100%", we already have guarantees that private enterprises will not be following suit.

It's nice that what's in our best interests overlaps with what is in the best interests of businesses for a change.

 

[FormerMember]

I can guarantee you that even if shortsigated governors like DeSantis and Abbott wave the restrictions, private enterprises and companies won’t just wave them as easily.

Not sure why they are “short sighted” but even NY is going to be a full go by July.

 

[sullyinMT]

I saw that. Get those vaccines cranking. India is crazy sad right now

I contend that anyone denying their vaccination should be required to watch an in depth reporting of that situation. Better yet, since they’re not worried about the illness, send them over to assist with their breaking healthcare system.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I contend that anyone denying their vaccination should be required to watch an in depth reporting of that situation. Better yet, since they’re not worried about the illness, send them over to assist with their breaking healthcare system.

Yes please. I really think many refusing to be vaccinated really have no idea how bad it can get.

 

[AEfx]

Third would be that Disney attracts people from all over to mix together. So it may be safe for a grocery store or restaurant in a rural town to be open without restrictions due to low community spread even if less than half the residents in the town are vaccinated or naturally immune due to mostly local patrons and low community spread. It may also be safe for a grocery store in a more urban but not necessarily touristy area to be open without restrictions due to high vaccine rate and low community spread and also due to mostly local patrons. But WDW will mix vaccinated and unvaccinated groups together so they can’t just look at cases in Orange County or FL as a benchmark. They need to consider the national picture which will be way slower to stabilize.

Oh, exactly - that is what I was talking about in regards to things like Single Rider lines. I mean, even once things "stabilize" and more people feel comfortable being at WDW, period, how many people are just itching to share their ride car sitting with touching thighs close with a stranger from who-knows-where for ten minutes?

That's what I touched on the other day when I talked about longer-term ideas of social distancing, etc. aren't just going to totally magically disappear entirely any time soon. Fast food chains are already creating redesigns that don't have dining rooms at all. Grocery stores are doing permanent remodeling to "flow" and separate customers as much as possible, etc.

I mean, even down to things like restaurants handling your food - do we want wait staff who is carrying our food on their shoulders right in front of their faces heavily breathing on it as they race around, doing a physically demanding job? Or, this one really got me - even if you are fully vaccinated, and everyone there is...can you see a kid's birthday party where the kid huffs and puffs and blows out a dozen candles lit all around the cake moments before it's cut up and served to 25 different people?

For some folks, maybe even a lot or most, these things may return. But for others, I do think there is just more of a general awareness of germ spreading that is here to stay. Even just as people start to realize, that unless you have gotten COVID, most of us in terms of colds/allergies/etc. have head some of the healthiest years of our lives because we haven't been exposed to so many lesser, but still annoying and unpleasant viruses out there.

 

[MaximumEd]

Got my second Moderna dose yesterday morning. The nurse who gave the shot recommended I take Tylenol for a couple days. I did not, because I’m apparently stupid. Woke up at 2:30am this morning with chills and aches. Super tired today, but still an order of magnitude better than Covid.

 

[sullyinMT]

Yes please. I really think many refusing to be vaccinated really have no idea how bad it can get.

I’m convinced that this, more than anything, is why it’s so hard to bring rural Americans along. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that.

 

[Parker in NYC]

It's nice that what's in our best interests overlaps with what is in the best interests of businesses for a change.

And just for safekeeping:

 

[Tony Perkis]

Not sure why they are “short sighted” but even NY is going to be a full go by July.

The ones I listed are shortsighted because of when they opened. July is still 2 months away and will be even more heavily vaccinated by then.

 

[Bill in Atlanta]

It takes the fight to us. Before, it was a County ordinance. The County is “the fall guy.” Now it’s the business owner’s decision. It necessarily invites conflict from nut jobs.

Again, our competitor already had to throw someone out today. We had arguments with people online several times today even though our policy is unchanged. This is unnecessary friction that was not so much happening yesterday, thanks entirely to this Governor. It invites the nut jobs to challenge us, make a scene, go after our employees, etc.

I decided to watch the entire press conference for myself. DeSantis' position is that some local authorities are unnecessarily and unjustifiably using emergency powers to restrict individual liberties. And, as governor he has the ability to use his power to protect Florida residents from that overreach (as he sees it).

The default position of conservative/libertarian leaders is usually to defer to local authorities except for special cases where those local authorities go too far in restricting liberties (as they see it). It appears that DeSantis believes this is such a special case.

In response to the mayors who indicated that local government restrictions are still justified, DeSantis commented that if you believe that policing people is still necessary, then you don't believe in the vaccines or the science behind them. Seems to be a fair point given that the vaccines have been available to all Florida adults since late March, and the data shows the vaccines are extremely safe & effective.

In regards to the instances of nut jobs causing problems inside private property because they don't understand the difference between a government mandate and a business requirement... it's unfortunate, but I don't know that any government action will ever fix that type of ignorance. Shifting power from government entities to individuals & businesses is usually a noble pursuit, but not one free of collateral damage. Hopefully the good outweighs the bad here.

 

[Tony Perkis]

I’m convinced that this, more than anything, is why it’s so hard to bring rural Americans along. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that.

Out of the 19th century as well.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I’m convinced that this, more than anything, is why it’s so hard to bring rural Americans along. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that.

Me too.

 

[sullyinMT]

Out of the 19th century as well.

Good to know you’re better than them. I hope that’s not you’re intent. Hillbilly Elegy would be a good watch or read. As an Appalachian Son, they (rural Americans) are good people who live in a small world. I left at a young age to volunteer in the developing Cibao region of the Dominican Republic, broadened my horizons, and never looked back. But I’ve never forgotten the good people that raised me. Sarcasm is a welcome way to release frustration, but bludgeoning a people with how backward they are isn’t going to win them over.