October82
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One big concern for all businesses is that the combination of the flu and Covid will overwhelm hospitals in the Fall and Winter leading to new closures.
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One big concern for all businesses is that the combination of the flu and Covid will overwhelm hospitals in the Fall and Winter leading to new closures.
NickMaio
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Get ready for the actual flu season......"hold onto your butts!".
FL needs some serious number drops and soon. Otherwise.........
NickMaio
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The second wave is coming.....just wait.
willtravel
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I agree it will be a big mess. The symptoms of Covid are very similar to a cold, sinus infection, flu. I feel sorry for doctors. I think there will be great confusion and panic and a mess. JMO
I still don't understand, all these Covid positives, are these people feeling symptoms or just getting tested and coming out positive? Is there any data showing on a daily basic how many are negative vs. being tested as positive?
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NickMaio
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Exactly.........its sad news but true. Covid really hit after North Americas common flu season.
Now we will have many other flu's to contend with.
GoofGoof
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The flip side to that is in a typical flu season:
- All kids are in physical school
- Colleges are fully open (with all the saliva swapping fun that goes along with it...beer pong...drunken hook ups...dorms)
- Bars/clubs/buffets are all open and thriving with holiday crowds
- People are traveling all over on completely sold out flights with no precautions at all
- Big cities are packed with people on mass transit with no precautions
- Nobody wears masks in public or makes any attempt to social distance
- Huge parties are not only allowed but encouraged...the good old days
- Places like WDW see massive holiday crowds
On the hospital front, I agree that it’s a fact that hospitals usually fill to near capacity from regular flu season so if you combine demand during a regular flu season plus demand from Covid the total demand for rooms is greater than supply. The above should help reduce total demand, but the other side of the equation needs to be addressed. If you and I in some Disney fan forum recognize the potential problem I sure hope that people running hospitals see it too And are planning for it already. Expanding capacity, preparing for overflow spaces if needed, stockpiling PPE and other supplies, etc. We all know when flu season starts so there’s no excuse to be caught short on hospital capacity.
SamusAranX
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Here’s what I think a reasonable strategy for ER and doctors offices, etc should be this season
Anyone showing symptoms should get tested for the flu first. I could be wrong, but flu tests are rather plentiful (I mean I have never heard of a shortage in my 30 years on this earth) and have a rather quick turnaround time at least compared to the covid testing delays. Regardless, send them home with instructions to quarantine / self isolate. Same procedure in admittance, eliminate the easy answer first (is it flu not flu etc)
Then (and only then) if the test is negative, move onto assuming it’s Covid and test for it. This would help reduce burden on testing labs and stress the system less, no? I might be naive on this though.
and in the situation of self care or those who don’t go to the doctors or do a televisit (my preferred Avenue) the public messaging should be; any symptoms, even if you are 99.99 percent sure it’s the flu, STAY HOME!!
mickeymiss
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Won't masks and distancing enable an associated decline in all respiratory illnesses especially if school doesn't open?
GoofGoof
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We need to do more testing. This article talks about the plans in the U.K. which includes new 90 minute tests with the capability of testing an entire town as soon as an outbreak is recognized. The tests also test for both Covid and flu so anyone with symptoms does one test and finds out what they have within 90 mins. This is the kind of stuff the US should be investing in instead of wasting time on conspiracy theories and finger pointing. Of course you have to be in favor of more testing not less for this to make sense.
Whole cities and towns to be tested in case of local Covid outbreak using 90 minute procedure
Entire cities will be tested for Covid to contain local outbreaks using on-the-spot tests that give results in just 90 minutes. Starting next week, the tests will be routinely used to check hospital and care home staff and patients, but there are plans for more than a million tests a day by the...
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Kevin_W
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That's exactly what @GoofGoof just posted. And if there is any silver lining at all in this Covid mess its that we've all become more aware to tranmissability of respiratory disease and hopefully we can put these practices to use against the flu and other future diseases (as Asia put their previous experience to use against this one).
Kevin_W
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We need to do more testing. This article talks about the plans in the U.K. which includes new 90 minute tests with the capability of testing an entire town as soon as an outbreak is recognized. The tests also test for both Covid and flu so anyone with symptoms does one test and finds out what they have within 90 mins. This is the kind of stuff the US should be investing in instead of wasting time on conspiracy theories and finger pointing. Of course you have to be in favor of more testing not less for this to make sense.
Whole cities and towns to be tested in case of local Covid outbreak using 90 minute procedure
Entire cities will be tested for Covid to contain local outbreaks using on-the-spot tests that give results in just 90 minutes. Starting next week, the tests will be routinely used to check hospital and care home staff and patients, but there are plans for more than a million tests a day by the...www.yahoo.com
I've read many things about the desire for faster testing (pregnancy test-like kits). If they could really do 90-minute testing with high accuracy, I could see airlines heavily investing.
Insiders are saying that the upcharge Christmas party at MK will be scrapped, just like the Halloween parties are.
But they'll still have decorations and Christmas cavalcades and music and food. Hey, kids, look! It's a random Santa!! (But no sitting on Santa's lap.)
Count on the Candlelight Processional to be out... too popular with too many people packed in a theaters and stopping along the walkway to listen.
Don't know if Epcot can even do the Holiday story-tellers since they draw a crowd.
And no fireworks or castle shows... just like now.
And if community spread of COVID is still happening, then there will still be low capacity-locked attendance. Look for a lot of people to bitterly complain that they can't get a reservation to get into a WDW park during Christmas week.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
You’re early this morning. Throwing off my internal clock.
For the lockdowns don’t work crowd take a look at again the very slow slope of the decrease in new cases in Florida compared to New York or Europe that have close to symmetric rises and falls, without a shutdown more people are getting sick and will prolong stress on the regions hospitals.
Kevin_W
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Also, aren't most of the CP choirs school and church choirs that submit auditions and are selected to perform? There are not many if any schools or churches) having choir right now. So that would be tough.
I just hope that this doesn't permanently end such a great (and free!) entertainment offering. Though I suspect that WDW makes enough money off dining packages (and families of choirs visiting WDW in general) that they would regard this as a new positive $$.
carolina_yankee
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there is no way to safely have a mass choir right now, but I can’t imagine Disney not brining back CP when it’s possible again. That has to be a huge money-maker/draw and and Epcot is going to need all the help it can get with so much put on hold.
Disstevefan1
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New cases down, that’s good. Deaths always lag cases so hopefully deaths will be trending down later. The percent positive is basically flat.
The data coming in From FL will be messed up in the future days since they had to shutdown testing in some areas due to the storm.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Hmm. A 9% positivity with only 61K tests.
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