Rumor WDW Rumor and Timeline Tracker v.2

[A Noble Fish]

I think it's time for an update.

Yeah, reading though it, it’s very outdated. @MisterPenguin I can help if you need a hand catching up. It’s a time consuming process that’s for sure. Appreciate your work!

It is updated by editing not new posts

Have you actually read it?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Yeah, reading though it, it’s very outdated. @MisterPenguin I can help if you need a hand catching up. It’s a time consuming process that’s for sure. Appreciate your work!

Thanks for the offer! My work-life got real busy, and honestly, most of the rumors are now either completed or shown to be false. The next step is a big purge. I'll try to get it updated by the end of the weekend. I have about a dozen posts from trusted sources to add... mostly minor stuff.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Magic Kingdom

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• Mickey's 90th Birthday in 2019
  • Timeline: staring Jan 18 - Sep 30, 2019 [official]
    • A whole bunch of temporary and 'pop up' stuff happens in the MK to celebrate Mickey's 90th, including merch and special food
  • to be called "Mickey & Minnie's Surprise Celebration" [official]
  • Move It Shake It parade/party ends Dec 1, 2018 to make way for a Mickey-centric parade/party, MISI Mouskedance It.
    • Timeline: Jan 18, 2019 - ongoing. [official]
    • original rumor: The Move It Shake It parade & dance party will close in November to be replaced by a new show to celebrate Mickey's 90th in 2019. [here]
• The Hub
  • The shortcut walkway from the hub to Fantasyland is expanding (toward the moat) [here] and [here]
    • Will take about a month. [here]
    • Will not be adding fountains at this time. [see above and here]
  • Both the Halloween party fireworks (Hallowishes) and the Christmas fireworks (Holiday Wishes) will be updated in 2019 to HEA level (i.e., projection-mapped images, longer fireworks, new audio). [here] [here]
    • It's official, both the Halloween and Christmas fireworks will be updated HEA-style [here] and [here]
• Pirate Streetmosphere: Pirate street show changed to M&G with Captain Jack on 9/30/18 [here]
• Hall of Presidents refurb supposed to end Jun 29, 2017 [official], but now is later with an indefinite date [re-opened with new president on Dec 17, 2017]
• Halloween
  • Added in 2018: Live actors on Pirates (Gunpowder Pete non-plot); Mad Tea Party Halloween lighting package; Space Mountain lack of lighting package; Storybook Circus Disney Jr. dance party; costume 'contest' [here]
  • Added in 2019: New fireworks show with updated projection mapping hosted by Jack Skellington; two Tomorrowland floats (the parade is each land celebrating Halloween/Fall) of Incredibles and Buzz; new show at Monsters Inc., different live-pirate show at PotC [here]
• Christmas
  • Added in 2019: New fireworks show with updated projection mapping hosted by Minnie Mouse; new show at Monsters, Inc; trippy lights added to Space Mountain, Christmas lights added to Speedway, Christmas lights and songs added to Teacups [here]

EPCOT

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• Expected changes. [here] [here] [here]
  • as a 'phase I' project likely to happen first: there will be a major renovation of the entrance and the central hub of Future World and Innoventions (and maybe the phrase 'Future World' and 'Innoventions' won't survive) [maybe starting 2017]. And say good bye to the memorials out front.
  • Removal of legacy monoliths [and here]
  • Removal of "a few other key structures"
  • More landscaping and greenery
  • New look to what is currently known as Innoventions, with part of it demo'd and some new builds
  • New performance space
  • New fountain
• Security Entrance
  • As part of the effort to move the 'security bubble' out to include the monorail, the monorail resort guests wind up going through security twice. There is a plan to fix that as part of the front of park rebuild project. [here]
• Spine plans still up in the air. One plan keeps all of Communicore/Innoventions (regut), another plan razes half of it [here]
  • the plan that razes half of it (the West side) seems to be the winner [here]
  • there will be new buildings replacing the razed West Communicore/Innoventions [here]
  • the M&Gs will find several new homes [here]
  • the Leave a Legacy monoliths will go away, but the plaques will find a new display outside the entrance area [here]
  • work to begin early Fall [here]
• Land Pavilion
  • Circle of Life replaced [likely], still in the works [here]
    • new movie has been approved [here] (post #2,588)
    • Official: New movie will be called "Awesome Planet" [official]
    • perhaps to debut during 2020's Festival of the Arts [here]
• Odyssey
  • Will become a new "Experience Center" which will put on display all the changes coming to Epcot [official]
• The UK: Unknown Ride
  • a simple ride coming to UK
  • Timeline:
    • the ride has been greenlit... whatever it is [here]
    • Opens 2021
    • make that early Spring of 2021 [here]
    • Actually, in development hell, but still projected for MK's 50th (2021). [here] [here]
    • make that possibly opening closer with Ratatouille (fall of 2020) [here]
    • now a beefed up UK ride (probably at the expense of Coco) [here]
    • work should begin in 2019 [here]
  • originally, could have been a D, C, or B level ride [here], but once Poppins was decided upon, only a B or C ride.
    • The B version is "carousel style" [here], the C is a small dark ride [here]
    • The B version is now looking more likely [here] [here] [here]
    • an outside site says it's a Poppins spinner [here]
  • The IP...
    • A ride based on Brave seems to be the strongly hinted finalist, or the interpretation of such hint could be completely off [here]
    • And now Brave seems to be off the table in favor of some other IP for some unknown type of ride [here]
    • Mary Poppins is a contender [Jim Hill says MP is top contender with a carousel -- not confirmed by other insiders] [Again, MP is a contender, but not top choice.]
    • And Mary Poppins is back in the lead again. A merry-go-round or some other ride types are being considered. [here] [here] [here]
    • heard to be Poppins and it has been approved with work to begin by September '18 [here]
    • still Poppins, maybe some hiccups, but should open the beginning of 2021 [here]
    • OR... just a simple ride (whatever type of IP it may be) was recently approved and all previous assumptions are in doubt [here]
• Japan
  • new restaurant currently being built (started in Sep 2018), little details, no official announcements [here]
  • signature restaurant will be called "Takumi-Tei" and will open the Summer of 2019 [here] Now open [here]

Updates

• Agent P game might be replaced by a Ducktales version [here] ... and still in the works [here]
  • Disney announced that DuckTales will indeed replace Agent P, no timeline [here] {update}
• Beauty and the Beast Sing-along
  • perhaps to debut during 2020's Festival of the Arts [here]
    • will indeed debut during Arts on Jan 17, 2020 [here] {update}
• The UK: Unknown Ride
  • now known to be a Mary Poppins "attraction", but not whether it's a ride. [here] {update}
  • Timeline: unknown
• China's 360 Degree Theater will go digital and seamless [confirmed at D23 Expo 2017]. The new film will be live action and projected from a new central ring in the ceiling. [here]
  • timeline:
    • end of 2019, beginning of 2020 [here]
    • if this isn't cut, expected in 2020. New camera rig should be built. Now, they have to shoot footage. [here]
    • and footage is in production. On track for 2020 [here]
    • perhaps to debut during 2020's Festival of the Arts [here]
      • but it seems it won't since it wasn't announced with other new Epcot films [here] {update}
• American Adventure
  • Maybe an overhaul of Liberty Inn [here]
    • Will indeed be turned into BBQ casual TSR and QS, called Regal Eagle Smokehouse [here] {update}
• Norway(ish)
  • Anna and Elsa may be in ravamped outfits this Fall. [here]
    • indeed, they are in their Frozen 2 outfits [here] {update}
• Illuminations:a major update, or complete replacement of Illuminations [strong]
  • Permanent replacement
    • featuring Disney music (IPs) inspiring the whole world, massive floating set pieces, custom-built LED panels, choreographed fountains, light, pyro, and lasers.
    • will have last show Sep 30, 2019 [official]
  • Cleared land next to Germany pavilion and fireworks canal toward 'Africa' is for prepping for the new fireworks shows and not for a new national pavilion [here]
  • Name:
    • The new show will be called IllumiNations [plus something else] [here]
    • To be called "Windows on the World" [here]
    • Illuminations: Windows on the World sponsored by Intel [here]
      • To be called: HarmoniUS, in 2020, but no date yet [here] {update}
• Mexico: maybe Coco(the new movie) will be overlaid unto the Gran Fiesta ride in Mexico
  • still off the table, but, maybe a nod [here]
  • Coco has been designed for Mexico (and a copy for DL), but got cut of the current EPCOT refurb. May still happen, but years away. [here] {update}
• Spaceship Earth-
  • Siemens Sponsorship
    • Siemens is ending sponsorship of Spaceship Earth and Illuminations. Confirmed by a Seimens' press release. Discussion of what that may mean here. [accomplished]
    • FALSE RUMOR: "Siemens lost their sponsorship of Spaceship Earth when they offered to provide a new fleet of monorails as long as the monorails had 'sponsored by Siemens' on them." Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
    • Siemens didn't have strong reasons to sponsor, and sponsorship of the fireworks show being removed from them helped push them away. [here] {update}
• New National Pavilions
  • after Brazil, Spain is the next contender (a long shot) for a pavilion. [weak]
    • and Spain's off the table it seems [here] {update}
• Imagination- something with Imagination... maybe...
  • Timeline:
    • if so, it's 5-6 years away (2022-3). [and again]
    • And further... 2025 (if at all) [here] and [here] {update}
• Land Pavilion
  • Awesome Planet movie debuting Jan 17, 2020 [here] {update}
• New Space Restaurant
  • Timeline: Space Restaurant to open in 2019 [here]
    • delayed to "this Winter" (anywhere from Dec 2019 - Mar 2020) [here] {update}

Disney Hollywood Studios

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• Star Wars Lands
  • Timeline:
    • it was officially announced on Feb 7, 2017 that both SWLs will open in 2019
    • Officially announced that DL's SWL will open May 31, and DHS's SWL will open Aug 29. [official]
      • Everything will be open except... [here]
        • Rise of the Resistance will open at a later time: Dec 5 2019 in Orlando and Jan 17, 2020 in Anaheim. [official]
        • Table Service Restaurant
          • which is not even being constructed at this time [here]
          • seems to have been put on indefinite hold, but, may be coming soon to both lands [here] and [here], it is already designed [here]
  • Access
    • DL's SWL is restricting access to only those who have a free reservation (mainly for those staying in a Disney resort hotel) from May 31 to June 23. Starting June 24, there will be a virtual queue to get into the land. Details of getting the reservation or virtual queue spot still to be released. [here]
    • For DHS, it, too, will have a virtual queue (details undetermined). [here]
    • Possibility for a special combo upcharge ticket for the rides, a meal, and the build-your-owns [here]
  • Smugglers Run - The Millennium Falcon ride (code: Big Bird) will be a simulator ride. Riders can affect the course of their ship (fly cleanly or bang around). [here]
    • The ride will be named "Millennium Falcon: Smugglers Run" [official]
    • interactivity with this ride and SWL enhanced by the Play Disney Parks app [official]
    • Hondo Ohnaka may be a key character for the ride [here]
    • 7 pods will seat 6 and rotate slowly on four carousels for loading/unloading. Screen outside of pod.
  • Rise of the Resistance- Battle Escape Ride (code: Alcatraz)
    • Will have elaborate queues, multiple-preshows. Unique FX. About 6-7 minutes long.
    • will face off with Kylo Ren [official]
    • interactivity with this ride and SWL enhanced by the Play Disney Parks app [official]
  • Miscellaneous
    • The code word for SWL: Delos (the company that built West World) (Delos I for Anaheim, Delos II for Orlando)
    • John Williams is scoring the land [official]
    • how about a do-it-yourself make-a-droid shop? For $100? [here]
    • a proposed "phase two" for SWL is roughly a decade away [here]
      • A small possibility of a third ride added to SWL [weak] [not happening]
      • a third ride not happening with the opening of SWL, however, the thick bump in the berm next to Pixar Lane is the pad for a future ride if ever it comes [here]
      • also, SWL will not expand into Grand Avenue, but there are other directions to go [here]
    • the connector between SWL and TSL will no longer be a tunnel, just a curvy path with berms on the sides [here]
    • March of the First Order stopped marching on July 6 to prepare to move the march to SWL when it opens. [here]
    • wdwthemeparks on SWL
• Toy Story Land
  • The code word for TSL: Ascot (reference to Barbie's Ken's ascot)
  • not likely to be a Phase 2 for TSL [here]
    • However, they have already started building a TS Restaurant [official]
  • Slinky Dog Dash ride has two launches, with no wait at the first one and a short hold on the second. Without lifts, ride is short at about 50 seconds [here] [actually 1:40 with about a 7-10 second stoppage at the second launch, plus, there's 5-15 second AA show at the end]
  • WRT FPs... the three TSL rides will be Tier 1, and everything else in DHS will become/remain Tier 2. [here] [confirmed]
  • overlay for DHS for the holidays 2018 is seasonal songs in Swirling Saucers, and some decorations, and some couture. [here] and [here]
  • still are plans to 'fine tune' the land (i.e., deal with peeling paint, corroding plastic, lack of shade and seating, etc...) [here]
  • The M&G Toy Story Characters may have a revamped look [here] [here] [here]
  • wdwthemeparks on TSL
• Pixar Places
  • As part of Mickey's 90th and Pixar's 30th, Pixar stuff added to DHS [here]
    • Municiberg: on Jan 19, 2018, old Pixar Place will be made into Incredible's Municiberg. Lots of Incredible M&Gs and interactivities.
    • M&G Mike and Sulley on Jan 19, 2018
    • Lightning McQueen show in Sunset Showcase, Spring 2019
• Muppet Courtyard
  • Mama Melrose: Status unknown. Stay as is or get a Muppet theme?
  • Muppet Theater exterior and Muppet Square get a refresh [very strong] [accomplished]
  • Muppet Theater might be used in the future as a preview theater [here]
  • Muppet fountain to be restored as a fountain once off stage infrastructure is done. [likely][accomplished]
  • Muppets are staying for a while [here], though, its exterior is more and more being themed to Grand Ave. [here]
• Grand Avenue
  • Maybe a streetmosphere show where the Muppets heckle the crowds waiting to get into Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge [Jim Hill rumor] [and here and here]
    • or maybe not [here]
• Hub
  • A new Chinese Theater projection show: Wonderful World of Animation, starts May 1, 2019 [official]
• Disney Jr. Dance Party (starting Dec 22, 2018) takes over for Disney Jr. - Live on Stage (ended Sep 1, 2018) [here]

Updates

Mickey's and Minnie's Runaway Railway replacing (not overlaying) the Great Movie Ride. Uses Mickey Shorts animation and 2 1/2D effects on an LPS vehicle. [confirmed at D23 2017]​

• Timeframe:
  • OFFICIALLY NOW... Spring of 2020 (oh, BTW, DL is getting one, too, in 2022) [official]
    • more specifically, April [here]
  • DATE ANNOUNCED: March 4, 2020 [here] {update}

• Star Tours
  
  • Star Tours will get a scene from Ep. 8, planet of Crait [official] [accomplished]
  • Star Tours will get a scene from Ep. 9 in 2019 and still be around for a year or two after that [strong]
    • Still going to get updated scenes [here] {update}

Animal Kingdom

Removed or Completed

• Tree of Life Awakening vignettes will start to be shown on the back side of the ToL starting in May 2017. [orlandoparknews] [accomplished]
• Lion King Celebration: As part of Mickey's 90th and Lion King's 25th, special events from Jan 18 to Sep 30, 2018 [here]
  • Hakuna Matata Time Dance Party with Timon and Rafiki
  • Photo ops 3D scenery
  • more TBA
• Rafiki's Planet Watch... DRAMA!
  • Word was RPW was going seasonal [here] and [here] then closing [here] but maybe back in an altered form [here] and [here] and [here]
  • RPW will indeed reopen the Summer of 2019 with Lion King tie-ins [here]
  • RPW has indeed opened Jul 11 2019 [here]

Updated

Rivers of Light​

• An update to Rivers of Light seems probable. [likely]
• No major changes expected until after 2021 [here]
• Minor fiddling with RoL turning it into RoL: We Are One which added IP sections [here]
  • Expect another reworking in the near-ish future. [here] {update}

 

[MisterPenguin]

General

Removed / Completed

• Gondola Lift!
  • This is verified by around 5 insiders, permits, the beginning of construction, and documents obtained by the Orlando Sentinel. [confirmed at D23 2017]
  • Timeline:
    • To open March to October 2019 [here], or, closer to spring 2019 [here]
    • Operational early May 2019. Guests on it within 2-3 months of that timeframe. [here]
    • OR... it really will open on the later Disney timeline of "Fall" rather than the presumed time of completion. [here]
    • OR... with SWL opening in Aug 29, 2019, it's planned to open before that [here]
    • Even though WDW is till saying "Fall 2019", the DCP collegians got notices for Skyliners positions to start in August [here]
    • Disney announced Skyliner will open Sept 29 2019. [official]
      • however, insiders are still saying that opening the Pop-CBR-DHS line earlier still likely [here]
  • It will connect POP/AoA and Caribbean with DHS/Epcot. And likely raise the prices there.
  • Possible I.D. of the gondola make and model here.
  • Can gondolas handle wheelchairs, strollers, and EVC? Yes, here.
  • Will it be installed in other places? No plans right now, but, always a possibility if it works out well.
  • All the gondola stations will be ground level with a steep incline coming in/out [here]
  • gondolas stations will be themed to nearby architecture: International Gateway will be Parisian; DHS will be Art Deco; AoA/Pop will be a Wave (near Little Mermaid); CBR Stations will be regal and stoney (which is which isn't confirmed). [here]
  • The AoA station will be enclosed. CBR station will be ground level. Storage area at CBR will be west side of the station. [here]
  • The CBR station will be accessible by foot and internal bus loop at CBR [here]
  • gondolas will be 8 person cabins from Doppelmayr, have a through-put of 5,000 people per hour, have wi-fi, and ample passive ventilation [here]
  • the plan is to discontinue bus service from the Skyliner resorts (Riviera, CBR, Pop, AoA) to Epcot/DHS. [here]
  • wdwthemeparks on the Gondola Lift
  • gondola speed: 11.2 mph (18 kph) / 16.4 fps (5 mps) [here]
  • stringing rope: in December 2018 [here], announced ferry service disruption in December seems to jibe with this
  • gondola stations will not be inside the security bubble [here]
• Play Disney Park mobile app debuted end of June 2018

Disney Springs

Removed/Completed

• 3rd Parking Garage going up in employee lot across the street by the Speedway. Construction started. [official]
• LED lights in the 'springs' will provide colored mood lighting [likely] and even put on a lite light show [weak] [Didn't happen]
• The Edison's opening is moved again, to Late 2017. It is unknown if "Walt's" or a rumored underground tunnel guest area (maybe a speakeasy) is still in the works. Thread here. ["Walt's" never happened. "Hideaway" instead with a converted speakeasy theme. Edison finally opened in Jan 2018]
• Uniqlo hems. As does Levi's store.
• New to 2018 holidays: New trees will be added in 2018 to the underwhelming Christmas Tree Trail [here]

Update

Cirque​

• La Nouba the Cirque show at the Cirque 'tent' is ending at the end of 2017. A new Cirque show will take its place requiring the theater to go dark during its refurbishment and renovation. [official]
  • will be called "Drawn to Life" and will be based on Disney animation, opening Apr 17, 2020 [here] {update}
• DisneyQuest is finally closing down on July 3, 2017 to be replaced with the NBA Experience. This will entail a complete demolition of DQ. [official] Done
  • NBA Experience opened Aug 12, 2019 [here] {update}
  • City Works Eatery & Pour House: A section of the NBA Experience will be taken over by this venue. To open Summer of 2019. [here]
    • Pour House delayed, probably open in Feb 2020 [here] {update}

Resorts

Removed/Completed

• Tower being built in Coronado Springs. High end / business suites. Top story viewing-restaurant. Room refurbs, landscaping update. [official] [discussion thread]
  • to open in Summer of 2019 [here]
• Caribbean Beach Resort Area
  • Centertown updatewith more retail and dining. [official]
    • Centertown completed with Old Port Royale; Sebatian's Bistro; Centertown Market; Banana Cabana Pool Bar [here]
  • DVC for Caribbean called "Riviera" (deluxe, not moderate). To open in fall of 2019. [info here] [confirmed at D23 2017]
  • Grainy overview of Riviera lay out here.
• Artist's Point restaurant going down for refurb
  • character meal being added, likely Snow White & company [here] [accomplished]

Update

A Star Wars theme hotel with a two-night interactive component [strong, corroborated by official survey about such a resort] [confirmed at D23 2017]​

• Timeline:
  • Announced to open in 2021 [here] {updated}
• Swolphin tower on Fantasia Gardens tennis court with cabanas turned into more parking (but the miniature golf being more or less left alone) [see here and following]
  • it will be some brand of Marriott, a rumor of a Kessler Collection Tower is being denied by a Kessler spokesperson [here]
  • project moving forward, info [here]
  • To be called "The Cove" and to open in 2020 [here] {updated}
• Polynesian may be getting a major update [here] {updated}

 

[MJL92]

Epcot

• Energy- A replacement for Ellen's Energy Adventure will be a Guardian of the Galaxy coaster. [confirmed at D23 2017
  • Will be called "Infinite Universe" [here] and [here]

The GotG roller coaster is confirmed to be called Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind

Take a First Look at the Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind Ride Vehicles

Last month at the D23 Expo 2019, Disney Parks, Experiences and Products Chairman Bob Chapek unveiled new details around Epcot’s Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind, a family-friendly “storytelling coaster” that will feature a groundbreaking

disneyparks.disney.go.com

 

[MisterPenguin]

The GotG roller coaster is confirmed to be called Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind

Take a First Look at the Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind Ride Vehicles

Last month at the D23 Expo 2019, Disney Parks, Experiences and Products Chairman Bob Chapek unveiled new details around Epcot’s Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind, a family-friendly “storytelling coaster” that will feature a groundbreaking

disneyparks.disney.go.com

Thanks for the heads up, I'll update it!

 

[MisterPenguin]

EPCOT

Energy Pavilion: new ride​

Will be called "Infinite Universe" [here] and [here]​

• Actually, will be called Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind [here] {update}

 

[A Noble Fish]

Thanks for the offer! My work-life got real busy, and honestly, most of the rumors are now either completed or shown to be false. The next step is a big purge. I'll try to get it updated by the end of the weekend. I have about a dozen posts from trusted sources to add... mostly minor stuff.

If I came across as condescending, know that wasn't my intent (judging by the likes on your post). I legitimately was trying to help, and I'll reiterate that I appreciate your time and work that goes entirely unpaid.

Thanks for the updates!

 

[MisterPenguin]

If I came across as condescending, know that wasn't my intent (judging by the likes on your post). I legitimately was trying to help, and I'll reiterate that I appreciate your time and work that goes entirely unpaid.

Thanks for the updates!

I didn't take it that way at all. All 'swell!

 

[dreday3]

Hi!

I see now Thunder Mountain will be closed for a few weeks in May.

Any other refurbs rumors for May time-frame? Specifically anything in AK and DHS?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Hi!

I see now Thunder Mountain will be closed for a few weeks in May.

Any other refurbs rumors for May time-frame? Specifically anything in AK and DHS?

Well... we need to define what we mean by 'refurb.' Some rides have annual maintenance checks during which broken things are fixed, some things get repainted, and just normal maintenance. This kind of refurb is almost never mentioned by insiders as "a rumor" because, we all know it's going to happen... it happens regularly. The BTMR refurb is too short for any significant changes, like adding the explosion gag found in DL.

Refurbs that make significant changes... now, that is the stuff of rumors. Like the one for Spaceship Earth. Those are recorded here.

But the minor, maintenance refurbs aren't kept track of. They are rarely announced as a rumor and they show up on official schedules in an orderly manner of time.

So, if you want to know if there are any other minor refurbs, Disney has that information on their site and @wdwmagic has them listed on this site.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

What's going on over on 429? A lot of new stuff being built. In addition to the Spinghill and Towneplace - there are a few other hotels going up. Getting busy over there. The new land buy isn't exactly consistent with where the build-out is happening (although it is west). I feel this area is going to grow significantly over the next 5-10 years. Just hoping it doesn't turn into I-Drive (or 535) west. But I fear it will.

Do you think this is an area they (Disney) are looking at? Otherwise we WILL have Crossroads West. Which isn't necessarily bad - if it's done right. Any insight you can share?

 

[MisterPenguin]

What's going on over on 429? A lot of new stuff being built. In addition to the Spinghill and Towneplace - there are a few other hotels going up. Getting busy over there. The new land buy isn't exactly consistent with where the build-out is happening (although it is west). I feel this area is going to grow significantly over the next 5-10 years. Just hoping it doesn't turn into I-Drive (or 535) west. But I fear it will.

Do you think this is an area they (Disney) are looking at? Otherwise we WILL have Crossroads West. Which isn't necessarily bad - if it's done right. Any insight you can share?

I haven't heard or seen any rumors as to its use.

There's a thread about it to discuss it and if an insider posts there some info, I'll add it here.

 

[DiscoveryTank]

Is there any signs of Space Mountain going down for a overhaul after the 50th? (Maybe with an overhaul for TL but I don’t think it will go that far)

 

[MisterPenguin]

Is there any signs of Space Mountain going down for a overhaul after the 50th? (Maybe with an overhaul for TL but I don’t think it will go that far)

No reliable insider has said there are plans for a major Space Mt refurb either after TRON or the 50th. Plans have been talked about and continuously shelved and will seem to be so indefinitely.

 

[MisterPenguin]

My best guess would be that such a thing wouldn't be on the table until TRON opens. WDW managment in particular are hesitant to have SM down because it's such a key part of the vacation experience. I remember reading the the logic about refurbs is more along the lines of "don't fix unless we have to", since a few months-years without Space Mountain might 'ruin' a lot of first-timers trips. For now I don't mind having the bumpiest and scariest Spaceport in the country

While true... this thread isn't for the discussion of the rumors or mere guesses otherwise it'd be a thousand pages long. It just tracks what our Insiders have said.

Please go to the appropriate thread to discuss veracity of rumors.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No reliable insider has said there are plans for a major Space Mt refurb either after TRON or the 50th. Plans have been talked about and continuously shelved and will seem to be so indefinitely.

Which thread do I go to follow the progress of construction on the Brazil pavilion??

Ok...all seriousness...do we have a list of potential 2020/2021 opening dates up to date?...not set in stone - of course

 

[nickys]

Which thread do I go to follow the progress of construction on the Brazil pavilion??

Ok...all seriousness...do we have a list of potential 2020/2021 opening dates up to date?...not set in stone - of course

In the summary, yes. But it’s done by park, not date order.

And there are links to the threads.

All of which you would know if you read post#1.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In the summary, yes. But it’s done by park, not date order.

And there are links to the threads.

All of which you would know if you read post#1.

...that’s DAMNED efficient...

Thanks

 

[MisterPenguin]

The summary posts (about 10 posts down from the top) need some updating when I find the time. But in the park-by-park breakdown at the top of the thread, there are the current presumed timelines that are relatively up to date.