There's an infrastructure problem with the BoardWalk becoming a destination. You can't realistically run buses to BW at the same rate you do to DS, you don't have the ability to build more surface parking, hard to justify the buildout of deck parking there when you have just built 4 down the road... I think the idea of the BoardWalk was to supplement activity of conventions held in the 3 hotels attached to Crescent Lake. I think making a destination location at BoardWalk would be be bad for pretty much everyone except guests at Crescent Lake Resorts, and maybe Skyliner Resorts.
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JoeCamel
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It is across all parks and DCL I think? Drop in the bucket of what is needed.
This is like the US infrastructure, they built all this stuff and now they need to maintain it and improve it to attract new customers. Very expensive and it all slips away unless you do.
That is why Bob the before called the parks segment a "mature market" and wanted to divest. They are an increasing cost that may or may not produce revenue exceeding the investment. They are subject to many outside forces and D+ with it's monthly charge is more attractive as steady income than what might have come to the parks in the late oughts.
Rosso11
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Yup exactly. Seems like it has some support but not green-lit yet.
doctornick
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It would have been interesting if that area was walkable from the front of Epcot where the theme park parking is (and Monorail stop). Then the Boardwalk could function as an "after hours" venue for those leaving Epcot and who wanted to stay up later but could still return to their cars in the parking lot.
This is where a PeopleMover would come in handy to get people back and forth from the main lot to the Boardwalk and back! (also would come in handy moving people from all those hotels to Epcot parking lot and back for Monorail trips to Magic Kingdom and for runDisney events without needing buses)
UNCgolf
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On the other hand, the Boardwalk isn't really big enough to have a mass influx of people -- and it would also be detrimental to people staying at the Boardwalk Inn (and at the Yacht/Beach Club too, I suppose, to a lesser extent) if the area was packed at night with people making noise.
I do wish there was a bit more there, but the overall feel of the area is really nice in the evenings now. If you tripled the amount of people there, I think it would not be an especially pleasant place to be.
Not me, but your new BFF said the escape room idea is dead...
Not that it can't be resurrected...
Sirwalterraleigh
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I’d toss him fish and keep him happy if you don’t make definitive statements that don’t come to pass a “hobby”…and I thought you were on some other site/blog/podcast “Jim hilling it”?
Indeed. It also doesn't help that they have made it positively inconvenient to go. Unless you have an ADR, you can't park to visit ADH or Jellyrolls. I've had some friends get turned away by security in Ubers and had to go over to Swan.
EPCOT-O.G.
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This is a good point. Disney’s parks (and their profit) would be highly desirable by many companies. But, Disney (with its foray into streaming) wants to be viewed as more of a tech company (like Netflix). In some ways the parks and their pesky upkeep and operating costs will be viewed as a negative given the money and focus needed for D+ (I believe we’re already seeing that)
WDW Pro
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It's not dead. There are many projects to be reevaluated and it's in the list.
Who is "him"? It is nice to know you've been following my successes!I’d toss him fish and keep him happy if you don’t make definitive statements that don’t come to pass a “hobby”…and I thought you were on some other site/blog/podcast “Jim hilling it”?
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Sirwalterraleigh
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ahhh..the standard battle cry of “insider” rumors
where we at on fire mountain?
Didn’t look at the picture, huh?Who is "him"? It is nice to know you've been following my successes!
Bocabear
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Has Trader Sam's caused a huge influx of people at the Polynesian? I don't think it has, and the combined hotels at Crescent lake, Boat traffic and Skyliner resorts adds up to a huge amount of people that could reach the resort... Boardwalk has always seemed to underwhelm...The bones are great but the offerings have always been less than stellar. Atlantic Dance Hall has always underperformed from the beginning, and at one time they thought it would be a real draw....So adding an Adventurer's Club to that location with access to 6 Hotels plus Skyliner traffic would seem to be an easy sell...Especially with fewer options available in the area.
You of all people know that Disney dead is not a real thing.
UNCgolf
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Didn't the Atlantic Dance Hall originally have a live 10 piece band playing standards/big band era music?
I'd go in if they were still doing that. I don't see any reason to go into a random place playing modern dance music since you can do that in any city in the country.
trainplane3
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Trader Sams should do better but I've heard and seen that security at hotels is strict. If you're an off property guest hoping to swing by Sams for a drink and a snack, they won't let you park at the hotel. So instead of dealing with parking at the TTC, people just leave and go elsewhere.
The resorts aren't exactly friendly to off property guests. Disney Springs eliminates this issue. For those saying "put it in the Boardwalk", let's not. Especially because the Crescent Lake hotels are just as strict as the MK resorts, if not more.
larryz
I'm Just A Tourist!
I always thought it was called that because the Boardwalk resulted in a Bored Walk...
larryz
I'm Just A Tourist!
Huge? No. Because Trader Sam's doesn't have the capacity to host a "huge" influx.
It could have been bigger... they could have sectioned it off into separate rooms, each with its own bar and special effects, but they chose to keep it small, hoping that it became popular enough to survive, but not so popular that the non-resort-guests would overwhelm the place. If I were staying at the Poly and wanted to go in for a drink, and couldn't because of a bunch of day-trippers, I'd be a bit miffed.
As it is, I peg it as about half-sized where it should be. There should be a Red side and a Blue side, each capable of handling about 50 people.
The AC never seemed to have that problem since it wasn't at a resort. I can recall having to wait to get inside, but it never seemed to be more than a half-hour or so.
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