WOW!Depends on the park. For MK, at least 10. DHS I would be satisfied with 6 or 7...…
You talking the Mountains or CoP and Tiki room?
WOW!Depends on the park. For MK, at least 10. DHS I would be satisfied with 6 or 7...…
What I hope to do:WOW!
You talking the Mountains or CoP and Tiki room?
Now I’m genuinely interested in what you make for lunch…Well what’s wrong with that? Why not use some of the amenities like the pool? I also get a villa since I can’t stand quick service and prefer to make my own lunch.
Disney is not incentivized to make it worthwhile, they are incentivized to make in indispensable, which is not the same thing. They are incentivized to make it the only way to actually experience rides. I have absolutely no idea why people think a vast majority of guests won’t pay for Genie, given the huge push it’s going to get and the extent to which Disney has and will continue to set up and operate the park to force its use.Will be interesting to see - I suspect there will be a decent amount of inventory given the rules involved and the fact that not nearly everyone will have this, so there will be a lot more supply. And since it's a paid service, Disney is incentivized to make it worthwhile.
Of course all depends on utilization and allocation, but I tend to agree as folks will have started booking LLs at 7am.By the time you tap into your 9am ride I’d be willing to bet the next time you will be able to get for a headliner will be 11am.
You can book your first Genie+ at 7am that morning. And at 9am you can book another one. It isn’t clear yet whether you’d have to be in the park or whether it’s available at park opening. So technically you could have two Genie+ and also two LL+ rides lined up if you wanted to pay for them.This isn’t Fastpass+, so no you won’t have a Fastpass to multiple headliners before you even enter the park
and that’s a good thing in every way
They have said you can book a second when the park opens. So no to booking a second one for Epcot at 9am if the park doesn’t open until 10 or 11am. They haven’t clarified if you have to be in the park to book a second one yet, but on the first day of operation we’ll know for sure if they don’t clarify it earlier. Or unless a CM posts on here.One still open question is when the 2 hour window starts when you select a LL pass with Genie+ at 7am. I would assume you have to be in the park to select #2 (although that hasn’t been clarified). Also, would the 2 hour window for your second selection really open at 9am, regardless of when the park opens? For an 11am Epcot opening, it’s doubtful they would allow you to pick one at 7am, another at 9am, then another as you walk into the park at 11am.
I think this depends on how people book a WDW vacation. What proportion staying onsite book a package, and will the default option to choose be to include Genie+ or not?Will be interesting to see - I suspect there will be a decent amount of inventory given the rules involved and the fact that not nearly everyone will have this, so there will be a lot more supply. And since it's a paid service, Disney is incentivized to make it worthwhile.
Agreed. When it comes to Disney there really is no wrong way. You do you and do what works best for you and your family. Only rule of thumb if it's not a 1 or 2 night trip is to do all 4 parks. Lol.What's with folks bashing others about the way they wish the system would work and hope it fits there ideal days. Don't we all wish that? Alot of family's go back for a mid day break heck most guides say to get outta the park around 1-2 because it's hot and to many people. Also alot of family's pack lunch or go back and cook if they are at dvc. This is not weird or new.
Totally agree - in fact that's generally what my family does (although we usually stay until about 2 (except one day where we usually stay for the parade), relax at the hotel, then come back for the evening.What's with folks bashing others about the way they wish the system would work and hope it fits there ideal days. Don't we all wish that? Alot of family's go back for a mid day break heck most guides say to get outta the park around 1-2 because it's hot and to many people. Also alot of family's pack lunch or go back and cook if they are at dvc. This is not weird or new.
There's going to be a balance, right? If a G+ purchase doesn't gain fast access because everyone's buying it, then it has indeed failed because the next day, no one will buy it. I would guess that (Dual Income, No Kids) will buy it for all days, some small families will buy it here and there, and larger single-income families who may be on the lower end of the income spectrum may tough it out on the standby lines with one or two exceptions. Some irony in that the people most in need of NOT standing in long lines with their kids probably won't/can't pay for G+ or IAS... something they could somewhat easily access with the free FP+ system.Disney is not incentivized to make it worthwhile, they are incentivized to make in indispensable, which is not the same thing. They are incentivized to make it the only way to actually experience rides. I have absolutely no idea why people think a vast majority of guests won’t pay for Genie, given the huge push it’s going to get and the extent to which Disney has and will continue to set up and operate the park to force its use.
Folks, since Iger first decided to stop building rides, ignore competition, and concentrate on data collection and crowd management, THIS has been the endpoint. This is the Avengers: Endgame of the Disney Theme Park Universe, the crown jewel, the final destination. If a vast majority of guests aren’t paying, execs will be fired left and right. If it fails, the company will have to admit it’s been on the wrong track for a couple decades - how likely does that seem?
No. Not really.This isn’t Fastpass+, so no you won’t have a Fastpass to multiple headliners before you even enter the park
and that’s a good thing in every way
Not for my family.This isn’t Fastpass+, so no you won’t have a Fastpass to multiple headliners before you even enter the park
and that’s a good thing in every way
I might be misremembering but I thought only IAS can be booked at 7am for resort guests. Don’t the “regular” LL times acquired via Genie+ start at park opening for everyone?Of course all depends on utilization and allocation, but I tend to agree as folks will have started booking LLs at 7am.
Correct. From my FAQ:I might be misremembering but I thought only IAS can be booked at 7am for resort guests. Don’t the “regular” LL times acquired via Genie+ start at park opening for everyone?
So it’s says all guests can schedule their first LL at 7am.Correct. From my FAQ:
Disney Genie+ [DG+$]
- Benefit: Lightning Lanes [LLs]
- All guests can schedule their first LL at 7a at WDW. At DL, they can schedule their first LL once in the park.
- You don't have to be in the park in which your next LL is scheduled (so, you can chose your LL at the resort, e.g., or at another park and then hop)
Individual Attractions Lightning Lanes $elect Experiences (IA$)
- Disney Resort Guests at WDW can purchase IA$ at 7am day-of.
- Non-resort-guests at WDW, and everyone at DL, have to wait until the park opens to buy their IA$.
- You don't have to be in the park in which your IA$ is scheduled
- this way, you can chose your IA$ at the resort, e.g., or at another park and then hop
You mean every system before it that was included in your ticket purchase and not an add on with the CEO stating the only desired outcome is to improve yield management.I don’t think you fully understand how this system or any similar system that came before functions.
Again it will always be the next available time. There is no built in waiting time and never has been.
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