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News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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_caleb said:
But the coaster community largely isn’t going to take TRON seriously. It’s not that kind of coaster.
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Which is a point I've made here repeatedly -- Disney doesn't really have a chance with the coaster community and chasing them would be a waste of time and money. Even if they did build something like Velocicoaster, it would be a temporary draw because it's only one ride. People might buy a one day ticket to ride it and then head back over to Universal for their thrill rides, and Disney still wouldn't be comparable to even regional Six Flags in terms of coasters, much less somewhere like Cedar Point. It's never going to be a place that attracts a bunch of coaster enthusiasts, and that's not their market anyways. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Disney to build a bunch of rides that most people under the age of 8-9 simply can't ride.
 
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celluloid

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UNCgolf said:
Which is a point I've made here repeatedly -- Disney doesn't really have a chance with the coaster community and chasing them would be a waste of time and money. Even if they did build something like Velocicoaster, it would be a temporary draw because it's only one ride. People might buy a one day ticket to ride it and then head back over to Universal for their thrill rides, and Disney still wouldn't be comparable to even regional Six Flags in terms of coasters, much less somewhere like Cedar Point. It's not ever going to be a place that attracts a bunch of coaster enthusiasts, and that's not their market anyways. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Disney to build a bunch of rides that most people under the age of 8-9 simply can't ride.
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That is the issue with Tron in a nutshell. It is not good enough to be an amazing coaster for the thrill fans on its own, and it is not groundbreaking or themed enough to exceed the Disney quality from previous attractions such as Tower of Terror, RocknRollercoaster or even Space Mountain originated right next door for the fans of those unique experiences.
It falls lackluster in both standards.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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UNCgolf said:
Which is a point I've made here repeatedly -- Disney doesn't really have a chance with the coaster community and chasing them would be a waste of time and money. Even if they did build something like Velocicoaster, it would be a temporary draw because it's only one ride. People might buy a one day ticket to ride it and then head back over to Universal for their thrill rides, and Disney still wouldn't be comparable to even regional Six Flags in terms of coasters, much less somewhere like Cedar Point. It's not ever going to be a place that attracts a bunch of coaster enthusiasts, and that's not their market anyways. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Disney to build a bunch of rides that most people under the age of 8-9 simply can't ride.
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Exactly!
And this is why cloning TRON at MK still seems like a strange decision to me. It’s—

Nevermind, @celluloid just said what I was going to say, but better!
 
The Aracuan Bird

The Aracuan Bird

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Mr. Moderate said:
I guess I’m in the minority here by saying that not only do I welcome Tron I would love if the powers that be, would put some great dark rides in Magic Kingdom as I feel it’s lacking. I would love to have two dark rides based on what I’ve seen in the Tokyo Disneyland resort. Monsters Inc. and Pooh’s Hunny hut ride I think would make great additions to MK. Please just get rid of stitches great escape and Monsters, Inc. laugh house floor
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I don’t think you’re in the minority at all.
 
jt04

jt04

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TRON is a perfect fit for the MK precisely because it will be more accessible to younger families and has a compelling ride system. Perfect interim coaster for the largest audience which is the MKs core clientele.

Similar to how IoAs coasters are geared to an older audience.

At Epic Universe they are building a coaster in the HTTYD Land that skews younger because that is the audience for the franchise. Specifically younger families.

Know your audience, as the saying goes.

Tron falls between the raptor coaster and the proposed Dragon coaster. Again, just right for the MK. IMO.
 
jt04

jt04

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Mr. Moderate said:
I guess I’m in the minority here by saying that not only do I welcome Tron I would love if the powers that be, would put some great dark rides in Magic Kingdom as I feel it’s lacking. I would love to have two dark rides based on what I’ve seen in the Tokyo Disneyland resort. Monsters Inc. and Pooh’s Hunny hut ride I think would make great additions to MK. Please just get rid of stitches great escape and Monsters, Inc. laugh house floor
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You might get your wish on SGE. 😉
 
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celluloid

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jt04 said:
TRON is a perfect fit for the MK precisely because it will be more accessible to younger families and has a compelling ride system. Perfect interim coaster for the largest audience which is the MKs core clientele.

Similar to how IoAs coasters are geared to an older audience.

At Epic Universe they are building a coaster in the HTTYD Land that skews younger because that is the audience for the franchise. Specifically younger families.

Know your audience, as the saying goes.

Tron falls between the raptor coaster and the proposed Dragon coaster. Again, just right for the MK. IMO.
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This would be true if it was not a 48 inch height requirement in a thrilling prone position. Slinky Dog is closer to what you are describing.
You make it sound like IOA has a ton of thrill coasters that are not as accessible. Hagrid is about as thrilling as Tron will be with the same height requirement and a longer duration and more theming.
Velocicoaster and Hulk are the only two intense tall height requirement coasters to appeal to that audience and for a bonus thrill supporting role you have Doctor Doom.
 
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Bocabear

Bocabear

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jt04 said:
TRON is a perfect fit for the MK precisely because it will be more accessible to younger families and has a compelling ride system. Perfect interim coaster for the largest audience which is the MKs core clientele.

Similar to how IoAs coasters are geared to an older audience.

At Epic Universe they are building a coaster in the HTTYD Land that skews younger because that is the audience for the franchise. Specifically younger families.

Know your audience, as the saying goes.

Tron falls between the raptor coaster and the proposed Dragon coaster. Again, just right for the MK. IMO.
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The thing is, it may be an interim coaster in speed, but the ride system is not at all...the ride system implies serious thrill coaster...not interim young families... If you were talking about 7 Dwarves, I would agree, but having experienced TRON in Shanghai, It is daunting and scary for young families...now the thrills on the ride don't equal how it looks...but the looks make the decision for most.
TRON would have been a great fit for EPCOT where Guardians is, but with an expanded footprint and longer ride.
Guardians would have been a perfect fit for DHS...
But TRON is not the best for for MK at all.
 
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doctornick

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celluloid said:
That is the issue with Tron in a nutshell. It is not good enough to be an amazing coaster for the thrill fans on its own, and it is not groundbreaking or themed enough to exceed the Disney quality from previous attractions such as Tower of Terror, RocknRollercoaster or even Space Mountain originated right next door for the fans of those unique experiences.
It falls lackluster in both standards.
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I haven't been on Tron, but from the ride through videos, it looks like a superior attraction to RNR to me. And I think if that ride has been fine and accepted in Disney parks, no reason why Tron would be a problem at all.

I actually think that RNR is the perfect comp to Tron in that it is a somewhat more thrilling option than existing rides at the parks without being so out of whack to turn off the typical Disney fanbase. RNR has the added thrill of the inversion, but similar run time as Tron and IMHO inferior theming to Tron (and the rider positioning for Tron is more unique). Tron also adds to the ambiance of the area with the canopy and lights and kinetics of the vehicles running outside.

To me, Tron allows for a nice compromise so teenage Billy can enjoy it while his little sister Annie is riding Little Mermaid and meeting princesses. It expands the breadth of attractions in MK to satisfy a bit more diverse fanbase. No, it's never going to appeal to hardcore coaster enthusiasts, but it's certainly provides some elements not already present at MK.

I understand the criticism of the obvious gravity building and concerns about capacity, but I really don't get people who think that Tron as a ride is a poor fit for MK or WDW in general. I expect it to be extremely popular and well received among a large subset of people who go to Disney parks.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I am positive it will be a big hit...Any coaster built in any Disney park will be a big hit...
I feel like the location is a bit of a problem It doesn't fit into it's location...and they are doing nothing to integrate the style into the rest of the land. To me, the style of the building fits more of that futurist vibe like EPCOT...
Tron is by no means a terrible ride...It just might have fit someplace else better...
 

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