JoeCamel
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Elon can do anything, Elon is god
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As I said above, you can, just by going north from Riviera across BVD, and running along the north side of BVD and across OKW. All that's needed is a turn station at BVD & Backstage, or in the cast parking lot there. They could even put in an OKW intermediate station.
Now, I'm not arguing that such a line is likely or worthwhile, but it is feasible.
Creathir
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PeopleMover would be my vote
bpiper
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Not if Disney contracted with Brightline to run dedicated shuttle trains that just go back and forth to the airport. That would solve capacity and frequency issues.
We definitely need more threads about an MCO rail line!!!Rumor - Higher Speed Rail from MCO to Disney World
Is the old proposal to have a HSR connection between Orlando and Disney World is back? Back in 2000, Florida came up with a plan to build a HSR between Miami-Orlando-Tampa, with a stop at Disney World, which got killed in 2003, and revived in 2009 only to be killed again. During the previous...forums.wdwmagic.com
Lift Blog
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Elon outbid Doppelmayr in Las Vegas and won. The result is not pretty.
Elon Musk's Las Vegas Loop might only carry a fraction of the passengers it promised | TechCrunch
If the company struggles to deliver capacity -- and revenue -- from its small-scale Convention Center system, the future of those ambitions could be in doubt.
techcrunch.com
Elon outbid Doppelmayr in Las Vegas and won. The result is not pretty.
Elon Musk's Las Vegas Loop might only carry a fraction of the passengers it promised | TechCrunch
If the company struggles to deliver capacity -- and revenue -- from its small-scale Convention Center system, the future of those ambitions could be in doubt.
Elon has picked up a fair bit of critical press over a transit system that hasn’t even opened yet in a major tourism destination.
On one hand, that sounds pretty familiar to the early apocalyptic visions passed around regarding everyone’s favorite non air conditioned gondola system .. and for the most part Skyliner has proven itself, albeit with a not insignificant break-in period.
I understand the math presented in the TechCrunch article, but I have a hard time believing Boring Co. has come this far and simply missed the obvious bottlenecks they are pinning their doom and gloom on. I’ve been following the project since the bid and am as curious as anyone to see how it all actually works out... I can’t imagine using stock model 3’s is the final final plan, at least without heavy modifications. I’m sure the system is going to have growing pains and lots of kinks to work out... but really you’d bet against Elon eventually coming through, in Vegas??
Maybe Lady Luck is with them in that they won’t have to deal with true Vegas convention crowds for some time.
You mean the one our host links to?
Brightline Train service planned for Walt Disney World at Disney Springs
Brightline will offer a car-free connection to Walt DisneyWorld for the millions of visitors from around the state.
www.wdwmagic.com
JoeCamel
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But Elon is godElon outbid Doppelmayr in Las Vegas and won. The result is not pretty.
Elon Musk's Las Vegas Loop might only carry a fraction of the passengers it promised | TechCrunch
If the company struggles to deliver capacity -- and revenue -- from its small-scale Convention Center system, the future of those ambitions could be in doubt.
Magic Feather
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The Vegas loop is essentially a hastily made version of a PRT system with Musk's existing assets. Some of the original concepts were truly innovative, but as the article says, the system is down to an unscalable maximum of 1200 pph. The proposed idea of adding buses to the system really cannot come soon enough.
For reference, imagine if Peter Pan's Flight was responsible for moving hundreds of conventioneers during a rush. Between that and the "novelty" of this "new and innovative" system (which has devolved into designated Tesla Tunnels) drawing people out to ride just for fun, I forsee LVCC kicking themselves for not taking Doppelmayr's bid.
For reference, imagine if Peter Pan's Flight was responsible for moving hundreds of conventioneers during a rush. Between that and the "novelty" of this "new and innovative" system (which has devolved into designated Tesla Tunnels) drawing people out to ride just for fun, I forsee LVCC kicking themselves for not taking Doppelmayr's bid.
I’m willing to suspend judgment until we see real world results. The TechCrunch article has been criticized as a hit piece, of which Elon draws no shortage of in all his endeavors.
I recently read this counterpoint (granted, tealarati is unabashedly pro-Elon) to many of the capacity criticisms and find the simulation data intriguing
The Boring Company’s LVCC Loop can move over 8,000 people every hour, simulation shows
The Boring Company’s Las Vegas Convention Center Loop tunnels may be capable of moving over 8,000 passengers per hour, and that may not even be the system’s full capacity. These findings were related in a recent simulation that was shared online, which depicted three operating scenarios for the...
www.teslarati.com
LVCC does not seem to be in panic mode over the project, rather the opposite as they are advancing an extension of the system to downtown for the consideration of the city:
Musk's Tunnel System Yet To Open, But Expansion Already In The Works
Elon Musk’s Boring Co., which is building a passenger tunnel system under the Las Vegas Convention Center, is already taking steps to expand.An…
knpr.org
Combined with a new project seemingly ready to break ground in Austin, that’s a lot of faith being tossed around for a system that hasn’t even entered service yet, but it has to have a basis in certain assumptions that are already apparent to the involved parties. If nothing else, you can triple the infrastructure and dig miles of additional tunnel for a fraction of the time and costs of a conventional system, which was the whole point in the first place.
I try not to be an Elon fanboy, and have issues with him personally... but his record so far on innovation like this is clearly unmatched. As a lifelong fan of the WED / PRT concept of mass transit, in personally think it’s very exciting that the core concepts may finally after all these years be coming to fruition. Time will tell if it’s a success or not, but that Tesla stock wound up to be a pretty good gamble.
Just an FYI for everyone: The two rail threads have been merged. Thanks mods!
This one is still about Skyliner.
gerarar
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According to the site that shall not be named, the Skyliner went down yesterday (11/29) due to a power outage for about 2 hours around 5:30 - 7:30pm, with guests on board. And once it resumed, the Skyliner was running on “generator power”.
I couldn’t find any tweets from any guests that actually got stuck on it, but here’s a tweet from another ‘source’ about it:
I couldn’t find any tweets from any guests that actually got stuck on it, but here’s a tweet from another ‘source’ about it:
TiggerDad
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If the Skyliner goes down without any YouTubers around, does it really count?
gerarar
Premium Member
I mean it didn’t even trigger a post/discussion here as it happened! So I guess it really doesn’t count!!
castlecake2.0
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When I was leaving epcot around 6 last night, it was indeed down
HarperRose
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I want to know why it took them over two hours to start the back-up generator.
gerarar
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Maybe they were diagnosing the problem? Or they had to call in (additional and knowledgeable) people to get the generators up and running?
Has there ever been a time where the power went out for the Skyliner? I can't recall, so this may be a first true test of it
Disstevefan1
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Ah, life is getting back to normal, folks getting stuck on the skyliner for two hours like the good old days (2019)
