peter11435
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Those really aren’t even comparable to this.
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News Disney and Fox come to terms -- announcement soon; huge IP acquisition
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There are only three possible outcomes to what impacut there could be. First, cut to help pay for the acquisition. This is unlikely because Comcast will be upset losing and will have money to spend on the parks. Second, no change and even if Comcast increases ther spending Disney will not respond. The third possible outcome is Disney is extremely upset at Comcast and not only does not cut but with the money from the sell of the RSNs and possibly the 39% of Sky less buying out Comcast and AT&Ts Hulu o we ownership Disney puts that money in Parks and Resorts.
Which do I want? 3 of course. What do I think will really happen? 2. Disney may wish for number 1 but Disney knows this is war. So I believe there is a 50% chance of no impact, a 30% chance for increases and a 20% chance of cuts.
Casper Gutman
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And kinda/ sorta Namor.
But everything else aside, I don’t know why any Marvel fan would want Disney to have theme park rights for the property over Uni. Spider-Man remains one of the three or four greatest rides in Orlando and Uni has some neat ideas for new Marvel rides. Disney, meanwhile, drags its feet on integrating even the hottest IPs into the American parks - Star Wars Land should have begun construction as soon as Disney got the property and California’s Marvel area should have gone vertical no more than a year after the first Avengers at the very latest.
Quinnmac000
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Not exactly, they have full rights to she-hulk, distribution of the hulk and the rest of the characters, character/distribution of Namor which is shared with Legendary which was why he wasn’t in iron man 2 and they only used an Easter egg and said characters related to Namor
Twilight_Roxas
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Universal forbid Disney of using the Marvel name in there parks due to Universal using the Marvel name in Orlando. Which explains why Disney could give Sky & some of RSN to Comcast in exchange for the distribution film rights to the Hulk & the usage of the Marvel name in there parks excluding Orlando & Japan.
Rodan75
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Hopefully Fox will show they they can focus on more than their 5 core brands.
The Marvel rights in Japan end in late 2020s. The use of the Marvel name in the Universal contract are only for America. So before you know it you will see Disney advertisements all around the world touting Marvel around the world. If nothing changes with the contract is the US, you are correct and Disney can't use the Marvrl name for their themepark attractions. However if you think Disney will just give away the Fox RSNs and 39% of Sky for nothing but Distribution rights to certain film characters and to be able to use the Marvel name for US themepark attractions you have been smoking something. Remember Universal gave Oswald back so NBC could hire a sports announcer. Disney spent a grand total of $0.00 on that. Also if you think Comcast would rather have the themepark rights to Marvel in Orlando and nowhere else in the world than own 100% of Sky you are delusional. The rights to Marvel are important to Comcast but only to be a thorn in Disney's side. They care about HP. They even care more about the Simpsons than Marvel. Look at how much they have spent on the Simpsons compared to Marvel. There is a bigger Simpson land in California than Orlando and they have worldwide rights to them. Universal will build HP, Simpsons and Nintendo stuff all over the world. How much longer do you think they want to spend upgrading Marvel rides that can only be in Orlando while the development costs for their other rides and attractions can be split among many parks? Comcast is a business and Brian Robert's cares about his Company, Comcast Cable.
Bottom line is if Comcast can buy out Disney's 39% share of Fox for $12 billion and sell their 30% state in Hulu for about $5 billion Roberts would take that and give back all the Marvel rights. Comcast and Disney would both be better off owning 100% of their subsidiaries. On the other hand if Comcast kept their 30% in Hilu, Disney kept the 39% in Sky and Universal had to deal with using Disney own the Simpson and Marvel IP Universal uses they two companies would have to end their fights because Hulu and Sky are way more important to both companies than themeparks IP.
Clyde Birdbrain
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Not sure if typo or clever wordplay.
Good one. I always use my cell phone and as a result have too many typos. Anyway I hope everyone remembers that as a consumer I am against both proposed mergers but as a Fox shareholder I prefer the Disney offer for tax reasons. Further as a consumer I would like the DOJ to appeal the AT&T case and go after Comcast on the NBC Universal merger. We need much more competition and smaller businesses not giant multinationals that not only don't care about consumers but have no interest in the wellbeing of the country they were founded in. Walt Disney was proud of American Businesses and their technological advances. The company today only cares about itself and profits like every other large corporation.
the.dreamfinder
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Worked out real well for General Motors...
Indy_UK
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Like said, the Marvel theme park rights are such a minor thing in this whole senerio. I really don’t think WDW is too bothered either. They decided to go with Guardians in Epcot where it’s going so obviously had no plans for a Marvel land because of the restrictions.
I think Long term Disney will try and get the remainder of Hulu but with controlling interest, they may not need to in order to do what they want with the platform which I think is to go worldwide.
I think Long term Disney will try and get the remainder of Hulu but with controlling interest, they may not need to in order to do what they want with the platform which I think is to go worldwide.
Rodan75
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From other reports the Hulu control structure will probably be an issue immediately after closing. Disney having majority is helpful but Comcast and AT&T could make life painful. So I suspect that Hulu will be resolved sooner rather than later post transaction close (regardless of who gets Fox in the end).
The parks will - along with the rest of the company - have expenditures re evaluated and checked.
Casper Gutman
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That’s ominous. On the plus side, if WDW sinks back into a stupor, a vengeful Uni might find it the perfect time to increase spending at their parks.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
But how are we gonna obsess about the completely unrealistic prospect of WDW building $2 bil in new simulators based on marvel for us? With absolutely no advantage to them??
LSLS
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Yeah. As much as everyone wants Disney to find a way to get those rights, I see zero reason why Disney would actually care about it. If they want to use Marvel, there are already IP they can include (and based off what they put into lands, the 2 they have already used are more than enough to build a land at WDW). There is just no incentive other than the Disney fans would love it (and that's just not incentive). I think they'd rather squeeze an extra couple million profit out of the deal than get those rights.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Also...nobody ever considers how advantageous it is to have marvel references all over BOTH juggernaut complexes in town. That’s exposure to about 80,000,000 annual gateclicks.
And Disney makes free money off its competition...there’s no disadvantage to this.
It’s far more likely Comcast would walk away from that contract than Disney ever lifts a finger to buy it out.