News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

[Movielover]

That was (I think) my first comment on the topic in this thread and I've never said that about Disneyland. And I certainly don't consider Walt to be infallible.

That was more of a response to the overall discussion in the thread and not just to you.

 

[disneyC97]

Sooooo....

You showed up, got mad that Universal didn't control the weather properly, apparently didn't ride Spidey, Potter, Cat, or any of the other great (far more than 10%) attractions that would have been open, and then left.

I rode all those attractions plus Kong and Dragon Challenge. They were fun. Just my experience. No shade to those that enjoy this park more.

 

[Sketch105]

I imagine they are. There's a fair amount of stuff that can be remade pretty easily like the bits of metal from the Alien scene, but things like the spacesuits in that same scene will probably be saved.

That depends on Twentieth Century Fox. Usually any item from a contract agreement with another film company or licensed property has a rule that requires it to be destroyed or not visible to the public if the original agreement ends (i.e., the attraction the agreement was made for closes).

I could see generic props like boxes, plants, and the even the gangster car transported to other parts of the park or other attractions, but anything that can easily be traced (the flowers or munchkins in Oz, the Arc of the Covenant, the spacesuits and Aliens from Alien) will be torn apart.

Although now that I think of it, do you think the Arc of the Covenant in the display cases was simply a mold of the one in the ride? or the actual thing from the movie?

Sometimes fabrications are passed off as the real thing..it happens.

 

[WDWTank]

That depends on Twentieth Century Fox. Usually any item from a contract agreement with another film company or licensed property has a rule that requires it to be destroyed or not visible to the public if the original agreement ends (i.e., the attraction the agreement was made for closes).

I could see generic props like boxes, plants, and the even the gangster car transported to other parts of the park or other attractions, but anything that can easily be traced (the flowers or munchkins in Oz, the Arc of the Covenant, the spacesuits and Aliens from Alien) will be torn apart.

Although now that I think of it, do you think the Arc of the Covenant in the display cases was simply a mold of the one in the ride? or the actual thing from the movie?

Sometimes fabrications are passed off as the real thing..it happens.

They should make molds of the props if they need to be torn apart that should sneak around the licensing agreement

 

[WDWTank]

What the was the REAL reason why The Great Movie Ride closed? I was at the Studios park today and everything including Muppets was more crowded than usual. Do shareholders play a role for these types of decisions?

 

[lazyboy97o]

What the was the REAL reason why The Great Movie Ride closed? I was at the Studios park today and everything including Muppets was more crowded than usual. Do shareholders play a role for these types of decisions?

Cost per rider exceeded a desirable limit. Such figures are not disclosed to shareholders.

 

[WDWTank]

Cost per rider exceeded a desirable limit. Such figures are not disclosed to shareholders.

So they closed it because it was too expensive to operate? Why didn't they wait until after Toy Story Land opens?

 

[MisterPenguin]

In addition to the cost of labor and the difficulties and the cost of those difficulties of a live-fire display, I imagine the 'cost' included the capital expense of repair. The attraction was getting to the point that to bring it up to snuff they'd be spending a big big chunk o'money.

Then there's the lack of merchandising of the attractions "IP" and all that missing money.

 

[larryz]

Not until Toon Town do we get another land that's debatable, and because it is debatable, I'll argue that Mickey Mouse is an American staple. I don't think anyone can disagree on that.

Toon Town is definitely Americana. The movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit placed it just a short tunnel drive away from Hollywood.

 

[larryz]

False.

Let's look at the opening day attractions, shall we?

https://touringplans.com/disneyland/attractions/opening-dates

I'm not going to count the Disneyland Band and railroad stations, that it lists, which makes the list:

• Autopia
• Jungle Cruise
• King Arthur Carrousel
• Mad Tea Party
• Main Street Cinema
• Mark Twain Riverboat
• Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
• Peter Pan's Flight
• Snow White's Scary Adventures
• Storybook Land Canal Boats

Direct IP rides:

• King Arthur carrousel
• Mad Tea Party
• Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
• Peter Pan's Flight
• Snow White's Scary Adventures

Rides heavily featuring IP:

• Main Street Cinema
• Storybook Land Canal Boats

Rides related to IP:

• Jungle Cruise (built as a ride based on and to promote Tru-Life Adventures movie series)

So that's a far majority right there. All the rides were either directly or indirectly based on IP or were founded in Walt's fascination with transportation (Riverboat, Railroad, Autopia).

Next couple of rides to open followed in the IP vein:

• July 31, 1955 Casey Jr. Circus Train
• August 16, 1955 Dumbo the Flying Elephant
• June 16, 1956 Pirate's Lair on Tom Sawyer Island
• July 4, 1956 Davy Crockett's Explorer Canoes
• June 14, 1958 Alice in Wonderland

Direct IP -- Robinson Crusoe Treehouse, 1962

 

[WDWTank]

In addition to the cost of labor and the difficulties and the cost of those difficulties of a live-fire display, I imagine the 'cost' included the capital expense of repair. The attraction was getting to the point that to bring it up to snuff they'd be spending a big big chunk o'money.

Then there's the lack of merchandising of the attractions "IP" and all that missing money.

Why couldn't they merchandise Wizard of Oz? The most popular family movie of all time? Also, they could've just added a gift shop

 

[lazyboy97o]

Why couldn't they merchandise Wizard of Oz? The most popular family movie of all time? Also, they could've just added a gift shop

Licensing agreements tend to be specific.

 

[asianway]

That depends on Twentieth Century Fox. Usually any item from a contract agreement with another film company or licensed property has a rule that requires it to be destroyed or not visible to the public if the original agreement ends (i.e., the attraction the agreement was made for closes).

I could see generic props like boxes, plants, and the even the gangster car transported to other parts of the park or other attractions, but anything that can easily be traced (the flowers or munchkins in Oz, the Arc of the Covenant, the spacesuits and Aliens from Alien) will be torn apart.

Although now that I think of it, do you think the Arc of the Covenant in the display cases was simply a mold of the one in the ride? or the actual thing from the movie?

Sometimes fabrications are passed off as the real thing..it happens.

Disney owns Indy

 

[Imagineer Mitch]

I know this has probably been discussed a lot before but why can't Disney use the Chinese Theater as it's park icon? It's always tower of terror, but why can't the theater be the icon along with the castle, tree, and SSE?

 

[Sketch105]

I know this has probably been discussed a lot before but why can't Disney use the Chinese Theater as it's park icon? It's always tower of terror, but why can't the theater be the icon along with the castle, tree, and SSE?

Originally, it was, but because the "Hat" replaced it for so many years, people have forgotten what it once symbolized..... so they tend to use the Tower of Terror instead. I think they are waiting on the revamp on the park to anoint a new icon.

There's rumors that Graumann didn't like their theatre being used on Disney advertising, but I think that's hogwash because you don't allow people to build a replica of your theatre in the main sightline of your park and not allow them to use it promoting the park it's in.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Originally, it was, but because the "Hat" replaced it for so many years, people have forgotten what it once symbolized..... so they tend to use the Tower of Terror instead. I think they are waiting on the revamp on the park to anoint a new icon.

There's rumors that Graumann didn't like their theatre being used on Disney advertising, but I think that's hogwash because you don't allow people to build a replica of your theatre in the main sightline of your park and not allow them to use it promoting the park it's in.

There was no licensing with Mann Theaters as the theater predates the US recognizing architecture as a copyrightable work.

 

[DisneyDodo]

So they closed it because it was too expensive to operate? Why didn't they wait until after Toy Story Land opens?

They want MMRR to be completed in time for SWGE, because that is when they will really need the added capacity (even more so than now, as the capacity added by the 4 rides in TSL and SWGE is expected to pale in comparison to the added attendance SWGE will bring to DHS).

 

[Tom Morrow]

My assumption has always been that the Chinese Theater doesn't translate well to a literal simplistic icon the way that a castle, sphere, tree, hat, and the Earful Tower do/did. Tower of Terror's "shape" works slightly better and is probably being used as a placeholder icon for the time being.

 

[asianway]

My assumption has always been that the Chinese Theater doesn't translate well to a literal simplistic icon the way that a castle, sphere, tree, hat, and the Earful Tower do/did. Tower of Terror's "shape" works slightly better and is probably being used as a placeholder icon for the time being.

Tower was used as the icon much of 94-00.

 

[Imagineer Mitch]

So will Studios ever get a proper icon?