News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Install (or program an existing) gate. Swipe your room key or credit card. When you leave Swipe the same credit card. Non resort guests who exceed the complimentary 3 hour parking will be charged $100.

OR use the same credit card to make purchases drinks and food. Customers who don't meet minimums pay for parking

So a surcharge to use facilities desperate for money is the way to go?

 

[lewisc]

So a surcharge to use facilities desperate for money is the way to go?

Free parking for a limited time period (Alternatively with a minimum spend) $$$ parking fees if you overstay or understand.

You scan the same card when you enter and leave.

 

[Bocabear]

I don't think that would endear the public to WDW and seem like an even more desperate money grab than the usual semi-annual price hikes and upcharges...It would make visitors feel less like Guests and more like a Mark....

 

[lewisc]

So a surcharge to use facilities desperate for money is the way to go?

No. Free parking for a limited time (3 hours). Disney might prefer to add a minimum spend.

Same credit card is swiped coming and going. You're automatically charged if you overstay or understand.

Some guests use hotel parking as free theme park parking. Instead of the possibility of towing you'll have the certainty of a $$$ fee.

 

[Dr.GrantSeeker]

Jump through hoops? You mean like take an uber? Or go to the TTC?

You can’t even get dropped off via Uber at a resort if you don’t have a valid reason to be there. I’ve been turned around in an Uber multiple times so I won’t try it any more. And yeah kind of crazy a company who claims to care so much about the guest experience would make me drive and park at the TTC just to resort hop when that is completely unnecessary and also, say it with me, terrible guest experience.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No. Free parking for a limited time (3 hours). Disney might prefer to add a minimum spend.

Same credit card is swiped coming and going. You're automatically charged if you overstay or understand.

Some guests use hotel parking as free theme park parking. Instead of the possibility of towing you'll have the certainty of a $$$ fee.

Parking is not nearly as big of an “issue” in a 21 square mile swamp city as they would like everyone to assume…

Perhaps the $32 a day fee is the real goal?

And besides…since they are barreling towards pricing out all off property visitors…it won’t be an issue for much longer anyway

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You can’t even get dropped off via Uber at a resort if you don’t have a valid reason to be there. I’ve been turned around in an Uber multiple times so I won’t try it any more. And yeah kind of crazy a company who claims to care so much about the guest experience would make me drive and park at the TTC just to resort hop when that is completely unnecessary and also, say it with me, terrible guest experience.

To be fair…the TTC is next to the Polynesian.

But the entire “security” as the reason they don’t allow offsite parking is bunk. It’s just to put pressure on those not staying to commit …and make those staying to feel “more exclusive”…instead of offering more real value and service…which eats at the bottom line and takes money away from the budgets of frozen 7 and Toy Story 13

 

[Dr.GrantSeeker]

To be fair…the TTC is next to the Polynesian.

But the entire “security” as the reason they don’t allow offsite parking is bunk. It’s just to put pressure on those not staying to commit …and make those staying to feel “more exclusive”…instead of offering more real value and service…which eats at the bottom line and takes money away from the budgets of frozen 7 and Toy Story 13

Yes TTC and Poly are right next to each other but overall I wouldn’t go to the TTC if I wanted to spend time at crescent lake or another resort not close to the MK area. Maybe I’m also stubborn because I just don’t play the game. I’m not going to drive to a theme park just to take Disney transportation to a resort and then back to the park to get in my car, especially when there are empty parking spots at the resort they won’t let me park at. I have a customer experience background and I just can’t get on board with how they do a lot of things these days, which is why do don’t go every year any more and stay offsite when we do go. I’ve been to Disney so many times in my life so it’s really Disneys loss if I don’t go to the resort to spend money, not mine.

 

[aladdin2007]

Yes TTC and Poly are right next to each other but overall I wouldn’t go to the TTC if I wanted to spend time at crescent lake or another resort not close to the MK area. Maybe I’m also stubborn because I just don’t play the game. I’m not going to drive to a theme park just to take Disney transportation to a resort and then back to the park to get in my car, especially when there are empty parking spots at the resort they won’t let me park at. I have a customer experience background and I just can’t get on board with how they do a lot of things these days, which is why do don’t go every year any more and stay offsite when we do go. I’ve been to Disney so many times in my life so it’s really Disneys loss if I don’t go to the resort to spend money, not mine.

I will add while this is a little off point to what your saying it sort of connects to it, but it really baffles me how Disney turns away money, they act like they don't want it and they don't want you there. I'm seeing this more and more. Its a terrible mentality and business ethic. I don't know who got into this company that started implementing that but been noticing it for several years now across the parks and resorts.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I will add while this is a little off point to what your saying it sort of connects to it, but it really baffles me how Disney turns away money, they act like they don't want it and they don't want you there. I'm seeing this more and more. Its a terrible mentality and business ethic. I don't know who got into this company that started implementing that but been noticing it for several years now across the parks and resorts.

They are desperate to maintain the “public”…aka social media appearance that they have really high demand to try and show great per guest spending…as the overall revenues shrink in the margins

That’s the whole game. It’s not crowded but they can’t act that way.

Let’s see how long that works?

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

You can’t even get dropped off via Uber at a resort if you don’t have a valid reason to be there. I’ve been turned around in an Uber multiple times so I won’t try it any more. And yeah kind of crazy a company who claims to care so much about the guest experience would make me drive and park at the TTC just to resort hop when that is completely unnecessary and also, say it with me, terrible guest experience.

But you are not a guest. Guests are people that are staying at the hotel. I would say its a pretty good guest experience to make sure there is parking available on site for the guests of the hotel, and that the hotel amenities aren't overwhelmed by people who don't have scheduled reasons for being there.

If you are a guest, anywhere on Disney property, it's really not hard to get from one resort to another. In the same general area, you can walk, take monorail, boat, or other transport. If you are looking to go to another general resort area, its TTC and a bus away. Your issue seems to be you aren't a guest, and want the same privileges as paying guests.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Anyone staying at one of WDW's hotels and AP holders are onsite 'guests.'

This is not an interpretation, the wording is direct from Disney.

For example, under parking policies WDW's own website says (bold is direct from the WDW website) , "Additionally, standard self-parking is complimentary for day Guests while they enjoy select dining, shopping, entertainment and recreation experiences at Disney Resort hotels."

If WDW does not provide adequate parking during a period of average occupancy, that is not the fault of WDW's customers.

It might be helpful to consider the lack of parking form the perspective of guests who have purchased the dining plan, and guests with disabilities. Guests with disability placards should be allowed easy drop-off access at all the resorts, IMO.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

Anyone staying at one of WDW's hotels and AP holders are onsite 'guests.'

This is not an interpretation, the wording is direct from Disney.

For example, under parking policies WDW's own website says (bold is direct from the WDW website) , "Additionally, standard self-parking is complimentary for day Guests while they enjoy select dining, shopping, entertainment and recreation experiences at Disney Resort hotels."

If WDW does not provide adequate parking during a period of average occupancy, that is not the fault of WDW's customers.

It might be helpful to consider the lack of parking form the perspective of guests who have purchased the dining plan, and guests with disabilities. Guests with disability placards should be allowed easy drop-off access at all the resorts, IMO.

you missed bolding the section that says while they enjoy select dining, shopping, entertainment and recreation experiences.

It doesn't say come one come all to just wander around anywhere you want at anytime you chose.

WDW does provide adequate parking. It does so by limiting the persons who are able to park at each resort, to those guests who are staying there, and those that have reservations for certain amenities, at certain times.

 

[LittleBuford]

Anyone staying at one of WDW's hotels and AP holders are onsite 'guests.'

This is not an interpretation, the wording is direct from Disney.

For example, under parking policies WDW's own website says (bold is direct from the WDW website) , "Additionally, standard self-parking is complimentary for day Guests while they enjoy select dining, shopping, entertainment and recreation experiences at Disney Resort hotels."

This is really confusing to me, because I always thought “day Guest” meant any person not staying at the resort in question. The policy you’ve quoted would lead me to believe that anyone can park at any Disney resort they wish to dine or shop at, though I know in practice that isn’t the case. What am I missing?

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

This is really confusing to me, because I always thought “day Guest” meant any person not staying at the resort in question. The policy you’ve quoted would lead me to believe that anyone can park at any Disney resort they wish to dine or shop at, though I know in practice that isn’t the case. What am I missing?

You are correct, that day guest = anyone who comes to a WDW hotel to eat, shop, etc. The main restriction used to be that only people staying at the hotel could park overnight. WDW's written policy has not kept pace with on-the-ground policy. I quoted that policy because it says day guests are allowed to park if they want to shop, but in practice that is no longer the case. Even people staying onsite are mostly restricted to their hotel + the parks.

WDW used to generally allow people to park at the hotels, especially if you were already staying onsite at another WDW hotel, were a passholder, or had an ADR. Of course, if you are a WDW passholder, you'd want to eat at the all the restaurants. Of course if you had the DDP, you had paid for dining entitlements including quick serve food.

Then, more or less, non-WDW hotel guests learned that they could bypass paying for parking by attempting to park at the hotels. WDW got a little stricter. People who were not staying on-property at all were turned away, especially from the monorail loop hotels, BWK, and BC/YC, unless they had a dining or convention registration. Generally, everyone was allowed to park at the mods and value resorts if they came to eat at the QS.

Anyone staying at a WDW hotel was generally allowed to park anywhere on property for the purpose of dining and shopping.

There were a few small exceptions to this policy, like the major holidays and major events in the parks.

For a time, WDW also had a policy of giving people a 3-hour parking limit at the monorail resorts (with an ADR).

There was an added restriction during COVID, because CR has a separate security entrance (shorter wait), people attempted to get dropped off at CR so they could enter MK faster. WDW said, if you aren't staying overnight at CR, or a registered convention/wedding/event guest, then your Uber can't even drop you off at CR, and WDW restricted mobile ordering at CR to ONLY people staying at CR.

For a long time, GF, Bwk, and Poly had overflow parking lots.

Now many WDW deluxe hotels have added DVC rooms. WDW increased the number of hotel rooms, but it appears the amount of parking hasn't kept pace, so now there is barely/not enough parking for the overnight guests.

Generally, the only time I attempt to park at any of the hotels is when I'm a guest or plan to dine there, so most of the time I have a reservation or ADR. I've not personally tested what parking is allowed at all the hotels, but they have decidedly become more restrictive. Onsite guests are no longer allowed to freely park at all the onsite hotels.

Another oddity is that CBR and Riviera are basically the same property, at least where the parking is concerned. The parking is connected by an internal loop. So what's odd is that CBR guests are not always allowed to enter via the parking lot entrance that is closest to Riviera. (Someone staying at CBR has no reason to park at Riviera.)

 

[LittleBuford]

You are correct, that day guest = anyone who comes to a WDW hotel to eat, shop, etc. The main restriction used to be that only people staying at the hotel could park overnight. WDW's written policy has not kept pace with on-the-ground policy. I quoted that policy because it says day guests are allowed to park if they want to shop, but in practice that is no longer the case. Even people staying onsite are restricted to their hotel + the parks.

WDW used to generally allow people to park at the hotels, especially if you were already staying onsite at another WDW hotel, were a passholder, or had an ADR. Of course, if you are a WDW passholder, you'd want to eat at the all the restaurants. Of course if you had the DDP, you had paid for dining entitlements including quick serve food.

Then, more or less, non-WDW hotel guests learned that they could bypass paying for parking by attempting to park at the hotels. WDW got a little stricter. People who were not staying on-property at all were turned away, especially from the monorail loop hotels, BWK, and BC/YC, unless they had a dining or convention registration. Generally, everyone was allowed to park at the mods and value resorts if they came to eat at the QS.

Anyone staying at a WDW hotel was generally allowed to park anywhere on property for the purpose of dining and shopping.

There were a few small exceptions to this policy, like the major holidays and major events in the parks.

For a time, WDW also had a policy of giving people a 3-hour parking limit at the monorail resorts (with an ADR).

There was an added restriction during COVID, because CR has a separate security entrance (shorter wait), people attempted to get dropped off at CR so they could enter MK faster. WDW said, if you aren't staying overnight at CR, or a registered convention/wedding/event guest, then your Uber can't even drop you off at CR, and WDW restricted mobile ordering at CR to ONLY people staying at CR.

For a long time, GF, Bwk, and Poly had overflow parking lots.

Now many WDW deluxe hotels have added DVC rooms. WDW increased the number of hotel rooms, but it appears the amount of parking hasn't kept pace, so now there is barely/not enough parking for the overnight guests.

Generally, the only time I attempt to park at any of the hotels is when I'm a guest or plan to dine there, so most of the time I have a reservation or ADR. I've not personally tested what parking is allowed at all the hotels, but they have decidedly become more restrictive. Onsite guests are no longer allowed to freely park at all the onsite hotels.

Another oddity is that CBR and Riviera are basically the same property, at least where the parking is concerned. The parking is connected by an internal loop. So what's odd is that CBR guests are not always allowed to enter via the parking lot entrance that is closest to Riviera. (Someone staying at CBR has no reason to park at Riviera.)

It’s all very confusing. Disney should definitely remove or update that language in order not to mislead those who don’t know better.

 

[MisterPenguin]

This is really confusing to me, because I always thought “day Guest” meant any person not staying at the resort in question. The policy you’ve quoted would lead me to believe that anyone can park at any Disney resort they wish to dine or shop at, though I know in practice that isn’t the case. What am I missing?

Day Guest
Fighter of the Night Guest
Champion of the fun
Master of parking
And PBJ's for everyone

 

[lazyboy97o]

All the different rules for parking are a great example of how Walt Disney World is often best understood as a geographic cluster of competing businesses that just happen to share ownership.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just to add…parking was always allowed to use hotel shops and restaurants…the only thing you could not use at will was pools

Until…they started charging parking and did the STUPID hard reservations for dining…

So as stated by Mickey Loooo-ver above: they have been violating their own written policy by denying parking lot entry for over 20 years

It’s what happens when you put a Shrew who hates “dirty” middle class park goers in charge

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

All the different rules for parking are a great example of how Walt Disney World is often best understood as a geographic cluster of competing businesses that just happen to share ownership.

…I don’t have my thesaurus handy…

Does that mean “run by poor managers of low talent and sense”?