mlayton144
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This is definitely a little creepy - but a big part of me is that creepy is part of the allure of AAs
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Walt Disney – A Magical Life
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Mr. Sullivan
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The voice is definitely off, but I also think that the voice ties into the overall hurdle that this show was never gonna get over and that’s competing with people’s memory.
There is so much audio and video footage of him available that most of us can close our eyes and see him clearly and hear him clearly.
But a lot of that audio is also in quality that they probably did not want for a show like this, and enhancement tools be it AI or studio work I don’t think are quite advanced enough yet to clean that audio up while also retaining the qualities of his voice we are most familiar with.
While we are insanely familiar with his likeness, I would actually argue none of us are as familiar with what he really sounded like as we think. Audio recordings from the era he was alive are notorious for being a little dishonest as to true sound. But it’s what we have heard for so long that any sort of clean up or modernization to it is gonna hit our ears wrong.
That is not to say the audio can’t be better than it is. It can! But a slam dunk? I’m not so sure, unless they just used the full raw fuzzy audio. Maybe they should have, but that comes with it’s own set of issues as well.
All in all, this all points to one of the two major reasons I thought this show was a bad idea from day one. I won’t get into the other one as I know it would not be a popular conversation, but this one definitely I think was always the biggest thing standing in their way.
They were just never gonna make it look or sound like what we’ve all spent decades internalizing.
Too Many Hats
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Yeah this is really unfortunate.
VJ
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why? eisner has as much to do with walt disney as iger does (nothing at all). just because eisner is the fan-favorite of the two doesn't mean he'd be any more fitting
SageOfTime
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The motion does look very nice - I'm actually quite impressed by it. If only the AA just wasn't so ... That.
Too Many Hats
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They’re all over the place. Lots of good projects and tasteful updates alongside embarrassing fumbles when the stakes are high (Tiana, Walt’s face). I wonder what’s really going on. Seems like quality control is out the window.
mickEblu
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Right.
Now I’m realizing I said “hopefully the show is good.” How can it be good if doesn’t look or sound like him? lol
Too Many Hats
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Okay well now I’m curious.
Dr.Cheeto
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Now they can finally make Iger's Walt introduce all of the IP Disney Co has acquired as if Walt had invented them.
"I’d like to introduce you folks to a new friend of mine. I like to call him Homer Simpson. You see this little yellow fella appeared to me in a dream. An average American father in an average American town. Say hello Mr Simpson.”
Homer: Hello Mr Simpson.
“Hah, some say he isn’t very bright. But I think we all have a little Homer inside of us”
5 hours later
“And that’s when I was riding on that train from New York back to Los Angeles again for the 60th time. You see this time, Charles Mintz stole my character Batman from me. So I thought to myself, there’s gotta be another superhero that resonates with the public. Just then a spider ran across my hand and gave me an idea. That's when Mr 8 leg bug man was born. My wife Lilian preferred the name Spider-Man. I think we can all say she had the right idea.”
8 hours later
“And that’s when I said, you know, Larry the Cable Guy would be perfect for this Mater fellow.”
“I stood there looking at that carousel and I thought to myself, if only there was a way to offshore all of the animation and visual effects production to produce the work as cheap as possible, in order to increase shareholder value of course.”
“You see, I’ve loved freeways my entire life. I even built a miniature freeway in my backyard. When I saw the Rivers of America at our Florida park I knew something was missing. Soon all of that natural landscape will be paved over to make way for the future. Now that’s what I call progress! Ka chow!”
Walt: “We got into this mess by driving on a freeway onramp. Now how do you supposed we get off?”
Julie: “By driving on a freeway OFF ramp?”
Walt: “That’s right! Anything is possible at Disneyland!”
"I’d like to introduce you folks to a new friend of mine. I like to call him Homer Simpson. You see this little yellow fella appeared to me in a dream. An average American father in an average American town. Say hello Mr Simpson.”
Homer: Hello Mr Simpson.
“Hah, some say he isn’t very bright. But I think we all have a little Homer inside of us”
5 hours later
“And that’s when I was riding on that train from New York back to Los Angeles again for the 60th time. You see this time, Charles Mintz stole my character Batman from me. So I thought to myself, there’s gotta be another superhero that resonates with the public. Just then a spider ran across my hand and gave me an idea. That's when Mr 8 leg bug man was born. My wife Lilian preferred the name Spider-Man. I think we can all say she had the right idea.”
8 hours later
“And that’s when I said, you know, Larry the Cable Guy would be perfect for this Mater fellow.”
“I stood there looking at that carousel and I thought to myself, if only there was a way to offshore all of the animation and visual effects production to produce the work as cheap as possible, in order to increase shareholder value of course.”
“You see, I’ve loved freeways my entire life. I even built a miniature freeway in my backyard. When I saw the Rivers of America at our Florida park I knew something was missing. Soon all of that natural landscape will be paved over to make way for the future. Now that’s what I call progress! Ka chow!”
Walt: “We got into this mess by driving on a freeway onramp. Now how do you supposed we get off?”
Julie: “By driving on a freeway OFF ramp?”
Walt: “That’s right! Anything is possible at Disneyland!”
Too Many Hats
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In this era I might’ve thought twice about having Walt say he goes around the studio “stimulating everybody,” but okay.
Too Many Hats
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The voice is even worse than the face. Oh man.
Too Many Hats
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His movements are very impressive and Walt-like. It could still work. We shall see.
Mr. Sullivan
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Eisner is the perhaps the most glazed individual in the company’s history. It really floors me how one can complain about Iger’s faults (and many of them are valid complaints!) but not recognize Eisner had a lot of the same ones.
Maybe it’s just me but just because Eisner was a more creative person doesn’t mean all of his poor choices and terrible management as he went along suddenly disappears. A lot of what folks dislike about the company today comes right from him.
Mr. Sullivan
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I will happily PM you but I’m gonna be smart for once and not get yelled at today
VJ
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exactly! fully agree, both of them have their negatives but they do have their positives, and i would like neither of them to have any creative role in a show about walt disney
FiestaFunKid
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I agree - and it appears he went to a tailor in 2025, looking at the way the suit is fitted - not how it was worn in his time. I know criticizing is easy, but these are little things we've come to expect from Imagineering
tanc
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I also just feel like some of his movements are too robotic, muscles naturally sway and contract, decontract etc. If you look at the arms you can see them make like a perfectly precise movement that no human can do still. I'm not sure if you can ever perfectly mimic a human though.
As others said, Lincoln was long gone before they attempted him not to mention no film of him exists. Literally 100 years apart, while Walt has plenty of people who have actually met him still around and there's plenty of footage of him. You can see his movements and gestures, while no one knew Lincoln's. I'd like to think that this will get better with time though.
As others said, Lincoln was long gone before they attempted him not to mention no film of him exists. Literally 100 years apart, while Walt has plenty of people who have actually met him still around and there's plenty of footage of him. You can see his movements and gestures, while no one knew Lincoln's. I'd like to think that this will get better with time though.
Hmmmmm. You’d think with all the AI programs nowadays that make it hard to even distinguish between real and fake celebrity voices, they could’ve done better than this. I literally have a simple App on my iPhone that could do this so much better. This sounds like narration from The Waltons.