CoastalElite64
Active Member
Last edited:
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
- Thread starter Disney Analyst
- Start date
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Oh, I forgot about the cat sub-plot. He was always trying to catch and eat the family's cat, yet somehow was allowed to stay and still came off as loveable/funny. I actually watched ALF a bit in the 80's, at least that first season or two.
I'm just thrilled we could get some folks on record here defending ALF as an "immigrant" in the same mold as James Gunn's cheaper-than-hiring-an-American maid and Sean Gunn's cheaper-than-hiring-an-American gardener.
ALF, for gosh sakes! The mind boggles at the mental gymnastics required for that to make sense.
Perfection. That's exactly why this ridiculous "Superman is an immigrant" thing got news traction. Because it's just so cringey and fake, and requires the human mind to block out huge amounts of context and well known backstory to get there.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Ok, so what do you call ALF? Outside of an Alien (or any variation of that word), what do you call his status being in a land not of his origin and living as a permanent resident (legal status notwithstanding)?Oh, I forgot about the cat sub-plot. He was always trying to catch and eat the family's cat, yet somehow was allowed to stay and still came off as loveable/funny. I actually watched ALF a bit in the 80's, at least that first season or two.
I'm just thrilled we could get some folks on record here defending ALF as an "immigrant" in the same mold as James Gunn's cheaper-than-hiring-an-American maid and Sean Gunn's cheaper-than-hiring-an-American gardener.
ALF, for gosh sakes! The mind boggles at the mental gymnastics required for that to make sense.
AdventureHasAName
Well-Known Member
I don't follow ... what is "ST"?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Star Wars Squeal Trilogy (ST). Force Awakens, Last Jedi, Rise of Skywalker.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Disney Irish
Premium Member
You just described the show, not his status of taking up residence. I also said outside of using "alien". So dodging the question I see.He's a furry space alien who crashed landed on Earth. Cue studio laugh track!
Phroobar
Well-Known Member
I'd call ALF a mooch. He crashed into their garage. Didn't pay to get it fixed. Lives on the couch. Eats their food. Terrorizes their pets. Contributes nothing to the family.
Alf is your daughter's shiftless boyfriend.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Well that describes his personality, not his residency status. But points for creativity.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
But ALF is an alien. And a furry one too.
It's the entire premise of the show. Furry space alien crash lands in family's garage, hilarity ensues for 23 minutes each week.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Again dodging the question.
So let me ask a more direct question since you want to dodge.
How would you describe his residency status? Again without using the word "alien".
AdventureHasAName
Well-Known Member
And you feel that ... these films made money (to the extent that they did) because they touched a hot button issue? Full disclosure, I haven't seen Interstellar, Parasite, US, or Avatar 2. I'm not into horror films ... maybe they do benefit monetarily from being political.
But I would argue Avatar (and its sequel) made money because they were 3-D action films. To be honest, I thought Avatar sucked and had no interest in the second one. I just thought it was a boring movie. If you're telling me Avatar 2 made money because environmentalists flocked to it, I'm not going to argue about it. I don't think it did, but I have no way of knowing.
Black Panther and Captain Marvel are the only two mainstream (non-horror) films of the past decade that I am aware of marketing themselves explicitly as having a political message that made a lot of money. And both of their sequels under-performed.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Non-human creature from another planet whose spaceship crashes on Earth into family garage, hilarity ensues.
AdventureHasAName
Well-Known Member
The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy definitely had a political message, but I'd argue the second two films underperformed, in-part, because of it being so explicit. And I would further argue that the politics being so overt killed Rogue One and Solo. But that's what happens when you put a back-up dancer (with an agenda) in charge of a five billion dollar company.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
Maybe he should’ve saved his comments for Monday.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Come on man, you know the answer you just don't want to admit it because you already said you only see the word "immigrant" to apply to a human. But his residency status clearly meets the definition of an immigrant, as does Superman and every other alien story going back decades that had aliens immigrating to this planet.
Heck there was a 1980s movie and subsequent TV show dedicated to the topic called Alien Nation.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
Dean Cain has entered the chat.
He has revealed he never understood his character when he played Superman.
He has revealed he never understood his character when he played Superman.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Now you're changing the terms of your question, which I answered. You just said a movie that made money, you didn't say how much money they had to make or whether any follow-up was perceived to make less money. All 3 made over $1B, ie they made profit. Doesn't matter how much profit each made.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Yes, because I have a good grasp of the English language and I know "immigrant" is a noun used to describe a human.
I would call the 1980's sitcom Perfect Strangers an immigrant tale, because it featured an actual immigrant.
I would call the 1980's sitcom ALF a sci-fi alien tale, because it featured a sci-fi alien who crash lands into the family garage.
ALF didn't actually exist, by the way. He was a puppet. We have no proof yet that aliens exist, funny or otherwise.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Care to elaborate on that? I don't get it. Yet.