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Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yes you re right I probably glossed over “reservation for Disneyland park” and went right to parkhoppers. Why not be clear and say “starting park” though? And if you have to be starting at Disneyland why mention park hoppers at all? Obviously if the person with the cheaper one park ticket has access to the 7am queue than the person with the more expensive parkhopper ticket should have access too.
I think its clear that when they say "reservation for Disneyland Park" its implicit that it means "starting park". As you can't hold a reservation without it being your starting Park. So saying "starting Park" would be a bit redundant here in my opinion.
 

mickEblu

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I think its clear that when they say "reservation for Disneyland Park" its implicit that it means "starting park". As you can't hold a reservation without it being your starting Park.

While true it still leaves room for interpretation which could easily be fixed with a couple words like “starting park.” Clearly if someone like me (although I admittedly glossed over some of those words) could be confused than the casual guests can be too. Disneyland also uses the “reservation” nomenclature to mean you just flat out need a reservation in general to get in or do anything at the park. Also, the average guest holding a parkhopper ticket views the park reservation as a reservation for entry into both parks. Not one specific park.

Now of course I doubt many casual guests are waking up for a 7am VQ for Great Moments with Walt but that’s besides the point. Haha
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
While true it still leaves room for interpretation which could easily be fixed with a couple words like “starting park.” Clearly if someone like me (although I admittedly glossed over some of those words) could be confused than the casual guests can be too. Disneyland also uses the “reservation” nomenclature to mean you just flat out need a reservation in general to get in or do anything at the park.

Now of course I doubt many casual guests are waking up for a 7am VQ for Great Moments with Walt but that’s besides the point. Haha
I'm pretty sure that anyone starting at DCA will be preventing from even entering the 7am VQ anyways. So it will likely not be an issue in about 99.997% of cases anyways. The only ones who it would affect are Keys who would try to go around the system in to snag a VQ but they aren't casual guests as you mentioned.

So the wording aside, I doubt this will be much of an issue outside of our interpretation discussion.
 

mickEblu

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I'm pretty sure that anyone starting at DCA will be preventing from even entering the 7am VQ anyways. So it will likely not be an issue in about 99.997% of cases anyways. The only ones who it would affect are Keys who would try to go around the system in to snag a VQ but they aren't casual guests as you mentioned.

So the wording aside, I doubt this will be much of an issue outside of our interpretation discussion.

I’m not sure I understand your first sentence?

Also you replied before I added the below line which I believe is an astute observation…

“Also, the average guest holding a parkhopper ticket views the park reservation as a reservation for entry into both parks. Not one specific park.”
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I’m not sure I understand your first sentence?
If its like VQs used in the past, if it was for a VQ for a Park you didn't have a reservation for, ie its not your starting Park then you were locked out of the 7am drop. So if that is the case here, and I expect it to be, then it won't be an issue for someone who has a DCA reservation and a Park Hopper as they won't even be allowed into the VQ at 7am.

Also you replied before I added the below line which I believe is an astute observation…

“Also, the average guest holding a parkhopper ticket views the park reservation as a reservation for entry into both parks. Not one specific park.”

Except the average guest will only be allowed entry into the non-starting Park after 11am. Which it clearly states when you buy the ticket, so I'm pretty sure its known -

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wityblack

Well-Known Member
You missed my update.

But if I'm reading it correctly, I don't think those starting at DCA will be eligible for the 7am drop.

7:00 AM – Guests must have a park reservation for Disneyland Park with a one-park ticket or a park reservation for Disneyland Park with a Park Hopper ticket

That to me indicates that it requires Disneyland as your starting Park.
Yeah. You only reserve one park with a park-hopper, and that's your starting park. So by saying a parkhopper with a Disneyland reservation that means Disneyland as the starting park.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yeah. You only reserve one park with a park-hopper, and that's your starting park. So by saying a parkhopper with a Disneyland reservation that means Disneyland as the starting park.
In @mickEblu defense just a bit, I can see someone just glossing over the wording as he did and being confused why they can't get into the VQ at 7am when their starting park is DCA. So while it maybe clear to the rest of us, maybe better wording would be helpful.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
So how long will this VQ last?

1 day?
1 week?
5 months just for craps and giggles?
Infinity plus an option to bypass with a LL Single Pass for $29.99?

I guess the point was made that there's no real queue space, but still. People are not going to be breaking down the door to see Mr. Walt Animatronic long term, nor particularly long into the short term IMO.

Waiting for the Very Smart People to come in and explain very patronizingly about how VQs are Always Necessary now and if we don't agree we're all dumb idiots, only worded slightly more politely.
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
So how long will this VQ last?

1 day?
1 week?
5 months just for craps and giggles?
Infinity plus an option to bypass with a LL Single Pass for $29.99?

I guess the point was made that there's no real queue space, but still. People are not going to be breaking down the door to see Mr. Walt Animatronic long term, nor particularly long into the short term IMO.

Waiting for the Very Smart People to come in and explain very patronizingly about how VQs are Always Necessary now and if we don't agree we're all dumb idiots, only worded slightly more politely.

I think it will be short lived. Probably the shortest usage we’ve seen yet.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
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So how long will this VQ last?

1 day?
1 week?
5 months just for craps and giggles?
Infinity plus an option to bypass with a LL Single Pass for $29.99?

I guess the point was made that there's no real queue space, but still. People are not going to be breaking down the door to see Mr. Walt Animatronic long term, nor particularly long into the short term IMO.

Waiting for the Very Smart People to come in and explain very patronizingly about how VQs are Always Necessary now and if we don't agree we're all dumb idiots, only worded slightly more politely.

I’m guessing 4-6 weeks as some MK’s will be blocked out for the first 2+ weeks so there will be a a little surge in demand.
 

Mr. Sullivan

Well-Known Member
Yes you re right I probably glossed over “reservation for Disneyland park” and went right to parkhoppers. Why not be clear and say “starting park” though? And if you have to be starting at Disneyland why mention park hoppers at all? Obviously if the person with the cheaper one park ticket has access to the 7am queue than the person with the more expensive parkhopper ticket should have access too.
They mention park hoppers to clarify which groups of ticket holders can use the 7 am VQ. Some will people will be there on a one park per day ticket while others will be there on a park hopper ticket. They're saying both groups can use it, just as long as the park hopper ticket is reserved to start at Disneyland Park.
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
How long was MMRR on VQ? 1-2 months? I can see this having the same amount of time unless they can't get rid of VQs after the 17th
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
So how long will this VQ last?

1 day?
1 week?
5 months just for craps and giggles?
Infinity plus an option to bypass with a LL Single Pass for $29.99?

I guess the point was made that there's no real queue space, but still. People are not going to be breaking down the door to see Mr. Walt Animatronic long term, nor particularly long into the short term IMO.

Waiting for the Very Smart People to come in and explain very patronizingly about how VQs are Always Necessary now and if we don't agree we're all dumb idiots, only worded slightly more politely.
My guess is it’ll be gone by the time Halloween starts at the end of August.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
.I’m guessing 4-6 weeks as some MK’s will be blocked out for the first 2+ weeks so there will be a a little surge in demand.

My guess is it’ll be gone by the time Halloween starts at the end of August.
The answer is probably either of these.

I guess it doesn't really matter because I will be back later this year and I can probably see the show then without trying very hard if I don't get to see it next week with VQ.
 

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