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Realistically, How Much Time Does Matterhorn Have Left?
- Thread starter Mr. Sullivan
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To be clear, this thread is not implying it was never re-opening from this refurb. It was a question about, in the future, when, if ever, will it's needs outpace their willingness to continue taking it under these sorts of major refurbs.
DLR92
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Wanted to share anyways.
Dear Prudence
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I co sign off on this whole heartedly. I don't think it's going anywhere, it is not only iconic part of park history, but its fan club would riot.I personally do not see the Matterhorn going anywhere off the map anytime soon.
Far too iconic and woven into the tapestry that is Disneyland.
I would like to think that the Company will keep it going as long as possible, and with today’s tools I don’t see any reason why they could not.
Now….if they added some additional cushioning to those bobsleds….that would be a welcome upgrade for the future.
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SuddenStorm
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I mean, how many fan clubs have rioted recently? WDW lost their Rivers. Muppet Vision 3D. Splash Mountain on both coasts.
The current set of management keeps making long term decisions for short term gain.... and it's going to damage Disneyland for the worse.
PiratesMansion
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The big difference to me is that there really isn't an argument that can be made that Matterhorn is underutilized, isn't iconic, or is problematic. Additionally, there isn't really anything else would really make sense for that space, assuming everything around it stays intact.
Additionally, WDW fanbois are far more scattered in what they value and understand about how the parks work. Whereas I would like to believe (though maybe I shouldn't, given how many people seem ready to make up a reason to just ship the Matterhorn off wholesale in this thread and others like it) would understand a bit more just what Disneyland would lose if they took the Matterhorn out.
Figments Friend
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Disneyland just would not be ‘Disneyland’ without the Matterhorn.
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It’s serves as the high landmark that tells you where you are in the park, SBC is too small to provide that landmark that the other castles do.Disneyland just would not be ‘Disneyland’ without the Matterhorn.
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DLR92
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This!Disneyland just would not be ‘Disneyland’ without the Matterhorn.
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Now if only Disneyland Paris and Hong Kong has a direct copy of Matterhorn. That be great,
PiratesMansion
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I don't recall having a hard time seeing the castle in Paris from elsewhere in the park.
As for Hong Kong, I'm sure that the castle bigification makeover has fixed the issue there.
Disney Irish
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Disagree, while the Matterhorn is iconic, you know you are Disneyland when you see that castle at the end of Main St, even if the mountain wasn't in the background, just as it did when the Park opened in 1955.
PiratesMansion
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He means that you use the Matterhorn to orient yourself within the park and figure out where you are.
He's not saying the castle isn't iconic, just that because it's so short that you can't orient yourself within the park using the castle as you can with the other castle parks. For that, at Disneyland, you use the Matterhorn.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Again I disagree, as Disneyland is designed around the hub as its orientation marker, and the hub is centered on the castle as its primary landmark not Matterhorn. I don't care where I am in the Parks, I'm never looking for the Matterhorn as a "marker" to know where I am, I'm trying to find my way back to the hub. Not that I never not know where I'm going, but the point still stands.
Anyone using the Matterhorn as an orientation marker is a newbie that doesn't know anything about how castle parks work.
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Rich T
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I’d like to point out that the Giant Dipper wooden rollercoaster at the Santa Cruz Boardwalk opened in 1924. It’s 101 years old, and it’s still one of the best rides in the world. It requires constant ongoing maintenance, inspections, care, and periodic refurbishing to keep in tip-top condition, and the Boardwalk’s owners make sure it’s taken care of, because they know how important that ride is to their park’s identity.
Age doesn’t matter. If a company cares enough and can afford it, they can spend whatever it takes to keep an iconic, historic ride going.
That’s a big “IF” for DL and the future existence of its icons, however, considering that Disney is currently in the hands of people who have no problem destroying beloved, historic attractions at WDW and replacing them with cartoon automobiles.
Age doesn’t matter. If a company cares enough and can afford it, they can spend whatever it takes to keep an iconic, historic ride going.
That’s a big “IF” for DL and the future existence of its icons, however, considering that Disney is currently in the hands of people who have no problem destroying beloved, historic attractions at WDW and replacing them with cartoon automobiles.
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PiratesMansion
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I really don't understand what the confusion is as to why people would use the Matterhorn other than the castle to orient themselves around the park. Yes, as designed, the castle is the centerpiece; however, in practice, you need to be able to SEE what you are orienting yourself around from far away for it to be an effective orientation marker!
It is generally much easier to see the Matterhorn than the castle unless you are standing right in front of the castle!
At other parks, people generally use the castle to orient themselves because it is actually visible from other places in the park. Not really true of Disneyland, hence why people use the Matterhorn.
To me this is self evident, so I'm not really sure why you're treating this as though this is something that only stupid people say or use when I have heard many, many people say this exact thing many times before!
Outside of FL, the hub and MSUSA you can’t see the castle. Before you learn the park when you look for the middle of the park you look on the horizon for the Matterhorn, and you can usually find it.
At any other castle park, the castle is much taller and you use that, that was all I was inferring.
Disney Irish
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There is no confusion, I just disagree that people should be using the Matterhorn for orientation. Didn’t say people can’t, just that they shouldn’t and that only a newbie would.
The Park isn’t that big that you get lost and need to be oriented. Especially now that outside of TL there is no dead ends. And anyone that gets “lost” can literally just turn around and backtrack from any land to the hub.
Plus not to mention that with the advent of gps with the app, available for a decade, it literally tells you where exactly you are inside the Park if you really are “lost”. And since a newbie would be using the app anyways, they wouldn’t even need to wayfind using the Matterhorn.