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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

neo999955

neo999955

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ToTBellHop said:
Not really any more redundant than 3 trackless rides (2 in 1 park) or 4 (5) spinners (3 (4) in 1 park).
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Bocabear said:
Radiator Springs Racers does not feel like Test Track at all....That would be like calling any steel coaster in any park "Space Mountain". RSR is a very good right and gorgeously done.... If they brought Carsland to WDW, they would HAVE to have RSR...and I don't really think everyone would say...Oh, it's Test Track.... Anymore than they call Buzz Lightyear, The Haunted Mansion...or Navi River Journey, It's A Small World.
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I'm not trying to imply that all roller coasters are the same or all dark rides are the same. That's absurd. Of course there can be multiple of the same ride system in Disney World or even in a park.

I do think they get away with spinners, which are essentially the same, because they're for little kids who I assume don't mind / appreciate the small theming that goes with them.

Test Track and RSR, to my understanding, have the same layout are are quite similar. I have ridden RSR once (I've done TT so many times) and I do recall the more dark ride bits of RSR being amazing and super fun - so I get that they feel quite different. To me this is more like having ToT and Mission Breakout or Keeping Dinosaur in AK and then adding Indiana to HS too. I'm not saying it's wrong, it just feels a bit more strange to me. But, I only rode RSR once, so it might be a lot more different from TT than I remember. I just remember thinking "Wow, this is TT, but really beautiful with a great story."
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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neo999955 said:
I'm not trying to imply that all roller coasters are the same or all dark rides are the same. That's absurd. Of course there can be multiple of the same ride system in Disney World or even in a park.

I do think they get away with spinners, which are essentially the same, because they're for little kids who I assume don't mind / appreciate the small theming that goes with them.

Test Track and RSR, to my understanding, have the same layout are are quite similar. I have ridden RSR once (I've done TT so many times) and I do recall the more dark ride bits of RSR being amazing and super fun - so I get that they feel quite different. To me this is more like having ToT and Mission Breakout or Keeping Dinosaur in AK and then adding Indiana to HS too. I'm not saying it's wrong, it just feels a bit more strange to me. But, I only rode RSR once, so it might be a lot more different from TT than I remember. I just remember thinking "Wow, this is TT, but really beautiful with a great story."
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RSR and TT have completely different layouts.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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As a Disneyland guy, I hope you guys don't get Cars Land. Im sorry. Haha. It should stay exclusive to DLR. I'm not anti cloning but I do like the concept of at least one signature land being exclusive to a park/resort. Besides it sounds like a bad fit at MK. It would be nice if the castle parks didn't get single IP lands. Too late for Disneyland.

How about a Wreck it Ralph Racers on the scale of RSR through Sugar Rush in DHS?
 
Phicinfan

Phicinfan

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mickEblu said:
As a Disneyland guy, I hope you guys don't get Cars Land. Im sorry. Haha. It should stay exclusive to DLR. I'm not anti cloning but I do like the concept of at least one signature land being exclusive to a park/resort. Besides it sounds like a bad fit at MK. It would be nice if the castle parks didn't get single IP lands. Too late for Disneyland.

How about a Wreck it Ralph Racers on the scale of RSR through Sugar Rush in DHS?
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All joking aside, IF and I feel this is a HUGE IF, they do have RSR in MK, I hope they then take out the speedway in tomorrow land and use that spot for some other add.
 
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doctornick

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ToTBellHop said:
Dino’s removal is unnecessary but they really need something where Primeval Whirl was. It looks awful.
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Agreed. While I've been adamant that closing Dinosaur (and Dinoland in general) is a bad idea for DAK right now given ride capacity - they should be building additional attractions elsewhere in the park first then close/change Dinoland if they want - but they definitely should also be working on the PW plot right now whether for Encanto or whatever. Even if there is a mishmash of theming for a bit, getting something built and opened there would be a boost to DAK which needs attention.

ToTBellHop said:
Either there or at DHS, I could see some sort of Percy Jackson area. It’s done quite well and with Universal abandoning Lost Continent, there is an opening for a Greek mythology experience.
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A Greek mythology land would IMHO be a great fit somewhere in WDW. I actually think one in MK wouldn't be a bad fit if it is more general and not specific IP based. Hercules (the Disney movie) is an obvious option and Percy Jackson if they have theme park rights can work. I also think it blends easily to something more generic like an Odyssey (or Jason and the Argonauts, etc) ride even though that's not a specific IP.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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doctornick said:
Agreed. While I've been adamant that closing Dinosaur (and Dinoland in general) is a bad idea for DAK right now given ride capacity - they should be building additional attractions elsewhere in the park first then close/change Dinoland if they want - but they definitely should also be working on the PW plot right now whether for Encanto or whatever. Even if there is a mishmash of theming for a bit, getting something built and opened there would be a boost to DAK which needs attention.



A Greek mythology land would IMHO be a great fit somewhere in WDW. I actually think one in MK wouldn't be a bad fit if it is more general and not specific IP based. Hercules (the Disney movie) is an obvious option and Percy Jackson if they have theme park rights can work. I also think it blends easily to something more generic like an Odyssey (or Jason and the Argonauts, etc) ride even though that's not a specific IP.
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Of course, who are we kidding. We’d get a mythological creatures carousel and a Zero to Hero Sandwich Stand. “The Biggest Expansion in Disney’s Animal Kingdom Park’s 2020s History!”
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SamusAranX

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LittleBuford said:
By that standard, I’d be better off under house arrest than living free in the actual world.
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You’re anthropomorphizing these animals. Most animals don’t have the ability to reason on the abstract concepts of morality and the notion of freedom to as one pleases within those boundaries. They have an infinitely better life with high standards of care at zoos that abide by ethical standards of care

The few that show a bit higher plane of intelliegence, yes perhaps you could err on the side of caution perhaps, barring being held for conservation or health purposes.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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SamusAranX said:
You’re anthropomorphizing these animals. Most animals don’t have the ability to reason on the abstract concepts of morality and the notion of freedom to as one pleases within those boundaries. They have an infinitely better life with high standards of care at zoos that abide by ethical standards of care

The few that show a bit higher plane of intelliegence, yes perhaps you could err on the side of caution perhaps, barring being held for conservation or health purposes.
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Elephants are extremely intelligent and do not mate when stressed. The incredible, unprecedented success of Disney’s elephant breeding program speaks volumes to how well cared-for they are. The wild would be far more dangerous for them.

We know what stressed big cats do. And it’s not what I observe in the lions, for example. One could make the argument that the cheetahs are slightly less pleased with their lot in life at DAK, though.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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SamusAranX said:
You’re anthropomorphizing these animals. Most animals don’t have the ability to reason on the abstract concepts of morality and the notion of freedom to as one pleases within those boundaries. They have an infinitely better life with high standards of care at zoos that abide by ethical standards of care

The few that show a bit higher plane of intelliegence, yes perhaps you could err on the side of caution perhaps, barring being held for conservation or health purposes.
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To be fair, it depends on the animal and the zoo. Disney does a good job for the most part though I am not a fan of the dolphins at Epcot.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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SamusAranX said:
You’re anthropomorphizing these animals. Most animals don’t have the ability to reason on the abstract concepts of morality and the notion of freedom to as one pleases within those boundaries. They have an infinitely better life with high standards of care at zoos that abide by ethical standards of care

The few that show a bit higher plane of intelliegence, yes perhaps you could err on the side of caution perhaps, barring being held for conservation or health purposes.
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You’re not going to convince me that captivity is a preferable option for animals that aren’t endangered. I have no interest in getting you to share my view, so let’s just agree to disagree.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Bocabear

Bocabear

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mickEblu said:
As a Disneyland guy, I hope you guys don't get Cars Land. Im sorry. Haha. It should stay exclusive to DLR. I'm not anti cloning but I do like the concept of at least one signature land being exclusive to a park/resort. Besides it sounds like a bad fit at MK. It would be nice if the castle parks didn't get single IP lands. Too late for Disneyland.

How about a Wreck it Ralph Racers on the scale of RSR through Sugar Rush in DHS?
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That would be spectacular, and DHS would be the perfect place for it... Which of course means they will never do it... or if they do it will be in Animal Kingdom... Seems like lately they only put things in the wrong park...lol
 

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