Found this pic from 2009, I believe at the PatF premire.
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Found this pic from 2009, I believe at the PatF premire.
Maybe Chapek got jealous that the mountain had more "hair" than he does, so he demanded they make it bald like him.
In other words, a bald mountain at night?
Facilier isn't in the ride because Tiana has moved past such weak villains and will now be fighting Chernabog?
Well sure! She's already defeated the first boss, Facillier, and is about to beat Br'er Fox and Br'er Bear. She's on a roll.In other words, a bald mountain at night?
Facilier isn't in the ride because Tiana has moved past such weak villains and will now be fighting Chernabog?
I lost a full year of my childhood to this boss:Well sure! She's already defeated the first boss, Facillier, and is about to beat Br'er Fox and Br'er Bear. She's on a roll.
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Found this pic from 2009, I believe at the PatF premire.
Defeat all nine and she can save the Magic Kingdom......Well sure! She's already defeated the first boss, Facillier, and is about to beat Br'er Fox and Br'er Bear. She's on a roll.
I haven't been asking for original songs and an original story.It honestly seems that people want to hate this just for the sake of hating it. People DESPISED the Louis Trumpet storyline. Now all of a sudden we're praising it? People are also constantly preaching about how Imagineering never does anything original anymore. Now we want a book report ride? Please, make up your minds.
I understand the arguments being made but there's a lot to appreciate here. Original songs, new animatronics, an original story. This is all stuff we've been asking for. If the ride is really that disconnected from the source material, shouldn't that be a good thing? Princess and the Frog is as important to this ride as SOTS was to Splash Mountain. If it weren't for the fact that Tiana is directly mentioned in the attraction name, this ride could very well adopt a unique identity akin to the original Splash. A ride that is attached to an IP, yes, but still manages to stand on its own as an icon for the parks. Imagine if Runaway Railway or Frozen Ever After paid this much respect to their predecessors.
I want something good! The original fantasyland dark rides are pretty much book report rides (Alice, Peter Pan, Pinocchio…) and they are great.People are also constantly preaching about how Imagineering never does anything original anymore. Now we want a book report ride?
It honestly seems that people want to hate this just for the sake of hating it. People DESPISED the Louis Trumpet storyline. Now all of a sudden we're praising it? People are also constantly preaching about how Imagineering never does anything original anymore. Now we want a book report ride? Please, make up your minds.
I understand the arguments being made but there's a lot to appreciate here. Original songs, new animatronics, an original story. This is all stuff we've been asking for. If the ride is really that disconnected from the source material, shouldn't that be a good thing? Princess and the Frog is as important to this ride as SOTS was to Splash Mountain. If it weren't for the fact that Tiana is directly mentioned in the attraction name, this ride could very well adopt a unique identity akin to the original Splash. A ride that is attached to an IP, yes, but still manages to stand on its own as an icon for the parks. Imagine if Runaway Railway or Frozen Ever After paid this much respect to their predecessors.
Choosing IP for rides/lands but not including songs/ music, characters and locations from the movie is counterintuitive and not something most fans want. It’s imagineers over thinking things.
I could be wrong but I don’t think anyone started using the term “book report ride” until after Mermaid opened in the early 2010’s. The truth is there are good “book report” rides and there are bad “book report rides.” Mermaid is bad. Pan, Toad and Alice are good. It all comes down to the execution. Notice how on Mermaid we are going around every scene, never through any? Just further cementing the fact that you’re not a part of the action but are watching someone else’s story. Actually it’s more like you’re creating visuals off a story someone is telling you from the past. It’s very passive. Compare that to Toad where we bump over the railroad tracks or Pan where we fly over Neverland. Alice is the most passive of the 3 but has the advantage of the ride system and intimacy of the old dark ride layouts. Even Pinocchio, which is arguably the worst of the Fantasyland rides has moments like going through the oversized cage in Stromboli’s wagon that makes you feel like you’re a part of the adventure.
Not to arguing this point, but isn’t Splash as it currently exists a book report ride with some thrilling aspects? Are the drops the thing that makes us relative to the story? The only drop I can think of that’s story relevant is the final one, being flung into the briar patch.Choosing IP for rides/lands but not including songs/ music, characters and locations from the movie is counterintuitive and not something most fans want. It’s imagineers over thinking things.
I could be wrong but I don’t think anyone started using the term “book report ride” until after Mermaid opened in the early 2010’s. The truth is there are good “book report” rides and there are bad “book report rides.” Mermaid is bad. Pan, Toad and Alice are good. It all comes down to the execution. Notice how on Mermaid we are going around every scene, never through any? Just further cementing the fact that you’re not a part of the action but are watching someone else’s story. Actually it’s more like you’re creating visuals off a story someone is telling you from the past. It’s very passive. Compare that to Toad where we bump over the railroad tracks or Pan where we fly over Neverland. Alice is the most passive of the 3 but has the advantage of the ride system and intimacy of the old dark ride layouts. Even Pinocchio, which is arguably the worst of the Fantasyland rides has moments like going through the oversized cage in Stromboli’s wagon that makes you feel like you’re a part of the adventure.
Not to arguing this point, but isn’t Splash as it currently exists a book report ride with some thrilling aspects? Are the drops the thing that makes us relative to the story? The only drop I can think of that’s story relevant is the final one, being flung into the briar patch.
Good point, thanks for the insight!No because the things of action happen to you as they do Brer Rabbit. The dynamic matches the action. So, the thrill takes care a part of that as well as the fact the characters at a few portions directly involve you. Tony Baxter designed the ride, so he knew what he was doing in that regard.
Mimicking or reliving the scenes from a film or story is not the same as a book report.
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