News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

flynnibus

Premium Member
Why are we getting bent out of shape about a scenario we don't even know will happen? This all started out of worries that kids would be making the jump to hyperspace all day and night and now people are upset that only one kid will get to do it and every other kid will melt down.

It is a valid story complaint to question 'if this is the bridge of the ship... why can we do anything we want without consequence?'. It would be different if they said 'here is a training simulator...' or if people were told to interact in sync with a story line (think Smugglers Run). But if it's a free for all or explore on your own... 'touching all the button' with no consequence only errodes it's own credibility.

And the more structured it is, the less accessible it will be. So it will be interesting to see what path they take with it.
 

mmascari

Well-Known Member
just like a riverboat casino isn't a boat that simulates a casino... it's a casino on a boat.
Aren't many riverboat casinos just simulating being a boat too?

I seem to remember lots of them really being docks in tiny manmade bodies of water, not floating at all and definitely not mobile. Just a facade to look like a boat in what's a facade of being an actual lake too.
 

MurphyJoe

Well-Known Member
It'll be interesting to see what they port from this to the Halcyon.


...as well as activities from the Jedi Temple Challenge youtube show.

With the way modern Disney works, I'm going to assume until proven wrong (or right) that both lounges are equivalents with only alterations in layout due to their location.
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
With the way modern Disney works, I'm going to assume until proven wrong (or right) that both lounges are equivalents with only alterations in layout due to their location.
Lounge (it does not matter where it is located or in / on what it is located) = consumption of alcoholic (I mean adult) beverages which will mean enough consumption and no one will care.
 

Buried20KLeague

Well-Known Member
Ummm...

This isn't meant as a dig to anyone here, but...have you seen Disney guests lately? There are large numbers of Disney visitors who are either ultra-entitled or will make their family miserable trying to ensure they get their money's worth out of their trip. Where this is such an expensive stay, I'm willing to bet there will be at least a good number of the former on the Starcruiser.

Just one example...our last trip, our oldest was trying to pull the sword from the stone at MK, and when our youngest went to take his turn, another family walked up and their two children fell just short of shoving my son out of the way. The parents didn't say a word, and rather than cause a huge scene, we just reassured our son very loudly that we'd wait so that he could have his turn (the other parents obviously heard us and didn't give a crap). Fortunately, our youngest is generous to a fault even though he has moderate autism, and he didn't mind waiting, but this is FAR from the only experience we've ever had like this at Disney World.

Exactly.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
It is a valid story complaint to question 'if this is the bridge of the ship... why can we do anything we want without consequence?'. It would be different if they said 'here is a training simulator...' or if people were told to interact in sync with a story line (think Smugglers Run). But if it's a free for all or explore on your own... 'touching all the button' with no consequence only errodes it's own credibility.

And the more structured it is, the less accessible it will be. So it will be interesting to see what path they take with it.
Yes, just what you said.
This is the bridge of a ship.
And just as the captain of a sailing ship wouldn't allow kids and adults to have a free for all at the helm as if it were a playground, it's not going to happen on the Halcyon either.
However controls are going to be allowed to be touched, it's going to be in some structured format that likely follows a story line.
There's not going to be a line for a lever as if it is some carnival sledge hammer game: "Step right up and try your hand at the jump to light speed!"
That's not how this is being done.
 

Budd

Active Member
Sorry if this has already been asked, but isn't it going to be a choppy feeling for people in areas such as the dining/lounge, guest rooms, pool, and other non-bridge areas of the motel with the ship constantly going in and out of lightspeed for periods at a time?
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
Sorry if this has already been asked, but isn't it going to be a choppy feeling for people in areas such as the dining/lounge, guest rooms, pool, and other non-bridge areas of the motel with the ship constantly going in and out of lightspeed for periods at a time?
Maybe? No one knows but this board seems to think it will only be the main screens
 

fryoj

Active Member
Sorry if this has already been asked, but isn't it going to be a choppy feeling for people in areas such as the dining/lounge, guest rooms, pool, and other non-bridge areas of the motel with the ship constantly going in and out of lightspeed for periods at a time?
If there isn't a droid that squeals as its thrown across the room when this goes to lightspeed, I want my money back.
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
It is a valid story complaint to question 'if this is the bridge of the ship... why can we do anything we want without consequence?'. It would be different if they said 'here is a training simulator...' or if people were told to interact in sync with a story line (think Smugglers Run). But if it's a free for all or explore on your own... 'touching all the button' with no consequence only errodes it's own credibility.

And the more structured it is, the less accessible it will be. So it will be interesting to see what path they take with it.
You make a good point.

I haven't been on a cruise since I was a child but as a child, we never toured the bridge nor was I given a crack at steering the ship.

Maybe things have changed? ;)
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
Aren't many riverboat casinos just simulating being a boat too?

I seem to remember lots of them really being docks in tiny manmade bodies of water, not floating at all and definitely not mobile. Just a facade to look like a boat in what's a facade of being an actual lake too.
In a lot of places, they're barges - technically floating structures and this is not done for thematic purposes but because of laws requiring it where gambling on water is allowed but not on land.

Biloxi in Mississippi was notable like this because rather than lean into the overdone riverboat theme, many of the hotel/casinos went out of their way to make the casinos not seem to be floating barges and appear more like Vegas and a part of the adjoining hotel (the Beau Rivage, for instance, went to great engineering lengths to pull this off) but after hurricane Katrina came in and destroyed everything, they did away with the dumb law that did nothing to really reduce the gambling and which just made it more complicated, anyway.

Other places still have these weird laws on the books and here in Florida where gambling is illegal (outside of native american reservations), you can take short cruises out 9 miles on the gulf side or 3 miles out on the Atlantic to international waters where there are no laws against gambling but those same ships cannot operate the casinos while still in US waters.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Sorry if this has already been asked, but isn't it going to be a choppy feeling for people in areas such as the dining/lounge, guest rooms, pool, and other non-bridge areas of the motel with the ship constantly going in and out of lightspeed for periods at a time?
The idea that the ship will be continually yanked in and out of hyperspeed is a guess on the part of some. IMO, a very poor guess based on trying to imagine the worse... with no evidence that such a thing would happen.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
The idea that an experience catering to an extremely wide range of ages, with a preponderance of children, that costs $5000 a person, will be largely akin to a LARP made up of people who are familiar with and intentionally signed up for a LARP, seems very strange to me. Yes, the experience is, broadly speaking, a LARP, but so different from more standard LARPs that the use of the term is misleading.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
The idea that an experience catering to an extremely wide range of ages, with a preponderance of children, that costs $5000 a person, will be largely akin to a LARP made up of people who are familiar with and intentionally signed up for a LARP, seems very strange to me. Yes, the experience is, broadly speaking, a LARP, but so different from more standard LARPs that the use of the term is misleading.
Yeah, but it's not a game either.
It's not a playground in the guise of a ship.
Just like kids and adults can't clamber all over everything in the hotel, on a cruise ship, or in the parks, they're not going to be able to do it here.
There's going to be a structure.
I'd imagine the jump to hyperspace for instance might only be utilized once when fleeing the First Order during some course of events.
How often is it used in the films?
Kids and adults can follow the structure of a story line pretty well.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
I mean, speaking for myself, if I pay $15,000 for a 2 night experience and my kid wants to pull a lever that other people get to pull, I’m gonna expect that he gets to pull the lever.

This isn’t really about the hypothetical lever, of course. It’s about how hard it’s going to be for Disney to tell a meaningful story with satisfying audience engagement under the conditions they’ve imposed upon themselves.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
I mean, speaking for myself, if I pay $15,000 for a 2 night experience and my kid wants to pull a lever that other people get to pull, I’m gonna expect that he gets to pull the lever.

This isn’t really about the hypothetical lever, of course. It’s about how hard it’s going to be for Disney to tell a meaningful story with satisfying audience engagement under the conditions they’ve imposed upon themselves.

If that's the way you actually think...
"My kids got to pull the lever some other people got to pull."
Not every kid gets to be on the Jedi stage at Hollywood studios.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
If that's the way you actually think...
"My kids got to pull the lever some other people got to pull."
Not every kid gets to be on the Jedi stage at Hollywood studios.
Yes, in a small, very expensive, supposedly personalized entertainment experience, you’re going to encounter that issue.

And wait… if you’re willing to dedicate time and patience to it, can’t you guarantee your kid gets on the Jedi stage?
 

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