Will Carnival Cruise Incident Affect Disney Cruise Line?

[sweetpee_1993]

At least they're bucking up and forking out the $$ to fly all the passengers back rather than keeping them on a ship crossing their fingers. Definitely a "UGH!" moment but then I can honestly say it looks like they've learned a little something about what NOT to do. LOL!

 

[BenSmith]

Wow.....

 

[lazyboy97o]

At least they're bucking up and forking out the $$ to fly all the passengers back rather than keeping them on a ship crossing their fingers. Definitely a "UGH!" moment but then I can honestly say it looks like they've learned a little something about what NOT to do. LOL!

Learned what? It's the same response. The only difference is that this ship is not stranded in open water.

 

[flynnibus]

Learned what? It's the same response. The only difference is that this ship is not stranded in open water.

I'd wager they are probably a little quicker to jump to 'bail out' mode now then they might have been prior... maybe making the guests stay a bit longer before they pull the plug and call the trip a bust. They might also have risked leaving port with only partial generator options or lower confidence.. but obviously now they know that would be corporate suicide to do so and risk having a failure while out at sea. Rather than risk it.. they punted quickly.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Learned what? It's the same response. The only difference is that this ship is not stranded in open water.

Well, they continued to sail the Triumph even tho they knew they had been having ongoing mechanical issues. At the very least, they learned not to try to push to complete the cruise then find another ship stranded in open water. Also, they didn't wait too terribly long to make the call to off-load the passengers and buck-up the dollars to fly everyone home. They didn't try to keep the passengers in a state of limbo wondering what was going to happen. They didn't keep the passengers on the ship to make an attempt at getting back to port. That could be another thing that they learned. Don't risk passenger experience!

 

[sweetpee_1993]

I'd wager they are probably a little quicker to jump to 'bail out' mode now then they might have been prior... maybe making the guests stay a bit longer before they pull the plug and call the trip a bust. They might also have risked leaving port with only partial generator options or lower confidence.. but obviously now they know that would be corporate suicide to do so and risk having a failure while out at sea. Rather than risk it.. they punted quickly.

Just read your response after posting mine. Spot-on. You nailed it. They pulled the plug regardless of their expense to ensure that they didn't have a repeat of the recent cluster. I do see that as a sign of lessons learned. Good!

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

Most Carnival clients never have and likely never will cruise Disney. They choose Carnival for one reason - it's cheap. Disney isn't cheap. However when you are talking about better value, Disney wins. People need to understand the difference.

Which product has a better value?

1. a cruise with no power, broken toilets and a better chance of being stranded at sea or in another country leaving long-lasting horrible memories with a cost of $500

2. A cruise with excellent service, no mechanical issues, magical moments that make for long-lasting pleasant memories with a cost of $1500

 

[flynnibus]

Different strokes for different folks.. If you are looking for a booze cruise.. DCL isn't it. If you are looking for a party atmosphere for mingling singles.. DCL isn't it.

They aim different.. and deliver with different values.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'd wager they are probably a little quicker to jump to 'bail out' mode now then they might have been prior... maybe making the guests stay a bit longer before they pull the plug and call the trip a bust. They might also have risked leaving port with only partial generator options or lower confidence.. but obviously now they know that would be corporate suicide to do so and risk having a failure while out at sea. Rather than risk it.. they punted quickly.

Well, they continued to sail the Triumph even tho they knew they had been having ongoing mechanical issues. At the very least, they learned not to try to push to complete the cruise then find another ship stranded in open water. Also, they didn't wait too terribly long to make the call to off-load the passengers and buck-up the dollars to fly everyone home. They didn't try to keep the passengers in a state of limbo wondering what was going to happen. They didn't keep the passengers on the ship to make an attempt at getting back to port. That could be another thing that they learned. Don't risk passenger experience!

I think the true test of lessons being learned is after the spotlight moves far enough away.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

Personally I would never go on a Costa/Carnival ship under any name. Their safety record is awful. They are the joke of the cruise industry. The people that work on the ship generally regret it within the first few months and are trying to get onto other ships but having a Costa ship on your resume does nothing to help you, in fact with their reputation for poor training it may be a hinderance...you would have to make them unlearn all the horrible habits they picked up with Costa/Carnival and relearn the proper way to do your job.

I always feel bad for the front line crew in these situations. Talk about a sh!tty day at work!

Edit: just realized some people don't know Costa/Carnival are under the same company and I was talking about the repuations of both ships.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Sweet HOLY HECK! And AGAIN!!!!

http://gma.yahoo.com/second-carnival-cruise-ship-having-trouble-sea-112703898--abc-news-travel.html

Hubby just called to tell me about Carnival ship #3 having trouble. (Triumph, Dream, & Legend) He said, "I don't care if they're giving those cruises away we won't be sailing on a Carnival ship." We had been eyeballing the newer Carnival ship that ports in Galveston, the Magic, but I think that's a big HELL NO at this point. LOL!

 

[Master Yoda]

Sweet HOLY HECK! And AGAIN!!!!

http://gma.yahoo.com/second-carnival-cruise-ship-having-trouble-sea-112703898--abc-news-travel.html

Hubby just called to tell me about Carnival ship #3 having trouble. (Triumph, Dream, & Legend) He said, "I don't care if they're giving those cruises away we won't be sailing on a Carnival ship." We had been eyeballing the newer Carnival ship that ports in Galveston, the Magic, but I think that's a big HELL NO at this point. LOL!

Carnival will have some serious damage control to do. The 2 incidents very well might be completely unrelated, but Carnival is going to have to prove that. If there is a breakdown in maintenance, decision making, etc some high end people in the company are going to have to take the fall for the company to save face.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Carnival will have some serious damage control to do. The 2 incidents very well might be completely unrelated, but Carnival is going to have to prove that. If there is a breakdown in maintenance, decision making, etc some high end people in the company are going to have to take the fall for the company to save face.

Yeah, even tho the incidents are all unrelated the fact that it's a mechanical issue all 3 times really makes me wonder WTH??? I need to have some sort of confidence that I'll be able to sail, make it to my destination, and make it all the way back as scheduled without an interuption of the vacation bliss to be willing to spend any amount of money. $50 or $5000. Not spending the moolah without knowing it's money well spent. Ya know??? Craziness!

 

[Disneyfalcon]

Sweet HOLY HECK! And AGAIN!!!!

http://gma.yahoo.com/second-carnival-cruise-ship-having-trouble-sea-112703898--abc-news-travel.html

Hubby just called to tell me about Carnival ship #3 having trouble. (Triumph, Dream, & Legend) He said, "I don't care if they're giving those cruises away we won't be sailing on a Carnival ship." We had been eyeballing the newer Carnival ship that ports in Galveston, the Magic, but I think that's a big HELL NO at this point. LOL!

Shut up!! No way!! I haven't even seen that one!!

 

[ChuckElias]

Shut up!! No way!! I haven't even seen that one!!

Just saw it, and rushed here to see if anybody had commented. This is just getting crazy!

 

[Disneyfalcon]

Just saw it, and rushed here to see if anybody had commented. This is just getting crazy!

Agreed!

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

It not 1 vessel its now 3 vessels with major mechcanical problems, The Carnivail Dream........dead at the dock, next cruise cancelled., awaiting repairs and passingers being flown home., the Legend, limping to port at slow speed, missing 1 port call and the Elation being escorted by a tugboat due to steering problems.


There was a comment that their would be not be any effect on Carnivail, well not only has Carnivail annouced today that their revenue is down due to lower bookings this month, IE the trumph, but this lattest 3 vessel probmes will make it worse.

In fact the only reason we don't have another 4000 passingers going though another 4 day tow though hell it that the Dream went dead in the water while in port.

AKK

 

[PolynesianPrincess]

Not that I ever had any plans to cruise on Carnival, but after these incidents, I will NEVER set foot on a Carnival ship. I understand, things happen, mechanical issues happen, etc... but 3 different times?! Something tells me these Carnival ships are not so up to par with maintenance as they should be!!!

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Not that I ever had any plans to cruise on Carnival, but after these incidents, I will NEVER set foot on a Carnival ship. I understand, things happen, mechanical issues happen, etc... but 3 different times?! Something tells me these Carnival ships are not so up to par with maintenance as they should be!!!

Don't forget the Spendour, Extacy, Troipicana, Celebration, Breeze fires.

Right now the carnival Inc. stock is diving, at a trading rate 2.4 times the normal.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

It not 1 vessel its now 3 vessels with major mechcanical problems, The Carnivail Dream........dead at the dock, next cruise cancelled., awaiting repairs and passingers being flown home., the Legend, limping to port at slow speed, missing 1 port call and the Elation being escorted by a tugboat due to steering problems.


There was a comment that their would be not be any effect on Carnivail, well not only has Carnivail annouced today that their revenue is down due to lower bookings this month, IE the trumph, but this lattest 3 vessel probmes will make it worse.

In fact the only reason we don't have another 4000 passingers going though another 4 day tow though hell it that the Dream went dead in the water while in port.

AKK

Wait! The Elation right now, too?! So, as of this very moment not including the Triumph which is still in the shipyard in Mobile there are THREE Carnival ships with issues? So that's the Dream, Legend, AND Elation???? Holy smokes! Carnival is in big trouble. Wow!

I think the comment that Carnival won't see a downturn in bookings was after the Triumph but before the other 3. Now that there's 3 more ships with problems even before you said anything (next quoted post) I'm pretty sure opinions are quite different. I know my feelings are!

Don't forget the Spendour, Extacy, Troipicana, Celebration, Breeze fires.

Right now the carnival Inc. stock is diving, at a trading rate 2.4 times the normal.

I read stories about the Splendor when the Triumph situation was going down. I'll have to go read up on the other 4 incidents you mentioned here. I've not really paid much attention to the cruise industry until the last few years. And thanks for posting here. I've read a good bit of your posts over on other forums. Definitely nice to have some input over here from someone with experience with the cruise industry. It's not as big a volume going down over here but it's "home".