Why Hollywood Studios is being rebuilt

[AEfx]

The EU canon post-Jedi is full of garbage. Thrawn trilogy was one of the few good things in there. I'm glad Disney threw out all that crap with more doomsday weapons, edgelord BDSM aliens that kill Chewbacca with a moon, Palpatine clones, Zorba the Hutt, Palpatine's triclops kids, and more Sith.
It all just reeks of "Making it up as we go" and authors trying to one-up each other and it was just a mess. Hoping with Lucasfilm Story Group, we get consistency and less stupid stuff that goes off the rails. And hey, the popular EU characters will probably come back into canon with time.

Absolutely! It would have been ridiculous to try to maintain that disjointed mess (and not to mention things like Chewie wouldn't be in the new film, etc.) - and what folks that complain about the EU don't get are a) the EU actually played to an increasingly narrow audience and almost all of it is generally unknown to the greater public, and b) Disney has already said, and already started to do, that they will take some of the more iconic/successful parts of the EU and incorporate it into the new canon as they go on.

Basically, people have this grand idea that Lucasfilm had some tight reign on EU, but they didn't - Lucas never even touched one of the books, for example. He didn't care, because at the time he wasn't planning on moving past ROTJ himself. Sure, the famed "holocron" was chock full of information, but it was simply trying to keep track, not give direction. It was a database for licensees, really nothing more.

That's what was so brilliant about Disney buying Lucasfilm. Disney has the resources to do what should have always been done with Star Wars - one, coherent, strong continuity between media. They attempted to do that with Shadows of the Empire and didn't even do well with it at that small of a scale. It's absolutely the most perfect media marriage ever - and from now on, if you pick up a Star Wars video game, comic book, novel, trading card, or watch a film - it's all going to have a true, over-arcing continuity to it. It's just amazing, and what it always deserved, and elevates Lucasfilm far past the licensing house that it was in it's last years, where it employed more lawyers than creative talent.

 

[doctornick]

That is not one of the proposed re-themes....

*1023*

I kinda like the GotG idea, but if RNR were to ever get re-themed, I'd like to see it detached from the rest of Sunset Blvd and have a new "land" around it (and connect said land to a renovated version of the current Animation Courtyard area). RNR already feels a bit separated and not in theme with the rest of Sunset anyway.

Personally, I would argue for changing RNR to a GotG theme, adding an Indiana Jones ride and then having some stuff (M&G or smaller rides) based on Big Hero 6/Wreck It Ralph and branding that area as an "Action" land.

 

[NoChesterHester]

I kinda like the GotG idea, but if RNR were to ever get re-themed, I'd like to see it detached from the rest of Sunset Blvd and have a new "land" around it (and connect said land to a renovated version of the current Animation Courtyard area). RNR already feels a bit separated and not in theme with the rest of Sunset anyway.

Personally, I would argue for changing RNR to a GotG theme, adding an Indiana Jones ride and then having some stuff (M&G or smaller rides) based on Big Hero 6/Wreck It Ralph and branding that area as an "Action" land.

They could re theme to a club on the Sunset Strip. That would fit.

 

[Cesar R M]

Absolutely! It would have been ridiculous to try to maintain that disjointed mess (and not to mention things like Chewie wouldn't be in the new film, etc.) - and what folks that complain about the EU don't get are a) the EU actually played to an increasingly narrow audience and almost all of it is generally unknown to the greater public, and b) Disney has already said, and already started to do, that they will take some of the more iconic/successful parts of the EU and incorporate it into the new canon as they go on.

Basically, people have this grand idea that Lucasfilm had some tight reign on EU, but they didn't - Lucas never even touched one of the books, for example. He didn't care, because at the time he wasn't planning on moving past ROTJ himself. Sure, the famed "holocron" was chock full of information, but it was simply trying to keep track, not give direction. It was a database for licensees, really nothing more.

That's what was so brilliant about Disney buying Lucasfilm. Disney has the resources to do what should have always been done with Star Wars - one, coherent, strong continuity between media. They attempted to do that with Shadows of the Empire and didn't even do well with it at that small of a scale. It's absolutely the most perfect media marriage ever - and from now on, if you pick up a Star Wars video game, comic book, novel, trading card, or watch a film - it's all going to have a true, over-arcing continuity to it. It's just amazing, and what it always deserved, and elevates Lucasfilm far past the licensing house that it was in it's last years, where it employed more lawyers than creative talent.

I just hope they dont go the DC/Marvel way with the "cohesive" universe.
Where their characters have been killed so many times and then revived(in some dubious ways) its comical.
And then you end with 5000 alternate realities where Chewie is actually the father of Leia who is the third cousin twice removed from Palpatine who married Java The Hut.

The worst offender for "revivals" is indeed Mr. Bendis (main writer of the new Marvel series). Some of his stories are genious.. but others are facepalm inducing (like the reintroduction of StarLord to the new volume 3.. pretty much destroying the cancerverse story).

 

[AEfx]

I just hope they dont go the DC/Marvel way with the "cohesive" universe.
Where their characters have been killed so many times and then revived(in some dubious ways) its comical.
And then you end with 5000 alternate realities where Chewie is actually the father of Leia who is the third cousin twice removed from Palpatine who married Java The Hut.

Star Wars isn't comic books, though. The DC/Marvel universes are authentic to the media they come from in that respect. That's how comics work, long before the cinematic universes reflected that (and as a kid, it was what a lot of us always dreamed - it never made sense that Batman in the films didn't know about Superman, etc).

With Star Wars, the Story Team is simply making everything one smooth cohesive experience. Before Disney, Lucasfilm had a ridiculous amount of canonical issues. So much that there were over a half-dozen individual canons within the Star Wars universe. It was absurd. Nothing went together.

It doesn't mean that they will always focus on the same characters, or bringing them back, etc. or any of that absurdity (the EU actually had a ton of that, which is another reason it was eliminated) - what it means is when you go see Star Wars: Rogue One (which reportedly takes place just before ANH revolving around the Death Star plans - not a spoiler, that's the log line for the film LOL) - it won't contradict the Star Wars Rebels TV show, etc. Or when you read the current comic books, it's not going to be "elseworlds" like stories that don't match up to the films, etc. Same for video games. It's not that they are concentrating the storytelling, it's that they are creating a logical framework for it all to co-exist.

 

[Wikkler]

I'd like to see it detached from the rest of Sunset Blvd and have a new "land" around it (and connect said land to a renovated version of the current Animation Courtyard area).

It's extremely unlikely that Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror will EVER be considered in separate lands. Their entrances are within 1 minute walktime from each other.

 

[Cesar R M]

Star Wars isn't comic books, though. The DC/Marvel universes are authentic to the media they come from in that respect. That's how comics work, long before the cinematic universes reflected that (and as a kid, it was what a lot of us always dreamed - it never made sense that Batman in the films didn't know about Superman, etc).

With Star Wars, the Story Team is simply making everything one smooth cohesive experience. Before Disney, Lucasfilm had a ridiculous amount of canonical issues. So much that there were over a half-dozen individual canons within the Star Wars universe. It was absurd. Nothing went together.

It doesn't mean that they will always focus on the same characters, or bringing them back, etc. or any of that absurdity (the EU actually had a ton of that, which is another reason it was eliminated) - what it means is when you go see Star Wars: Rogue One (which reportedly takes place just before ANH revolving around the Death Star plans - not a spoiler, that's the log line for the film LOL) - it won't contradict the Star Wars Rebels TV show, etc. Or when you read the current comic books, it's not going to be "elseworlds" like stories that don't match up to the films, etc. Same for video games. It's not that they are concentrating the storytelling, it's that they are creating a logical framework for it all to co-exist.

So.. that means I cant get dozens of fanart of where Chewie is actually the father of Leia who is the third cousin twice removed from Palpatine who married Java The Hut???

 

[doctornick]

It's extremely unlikely that Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror will EVER be considered in separate lands. Their entrances are within 1 minute walktime from each other.

Star Tours and MuppetVision are just as close to each other. And RNR is pretty isolated from the rest of Sunset Blvd.

 

[THPFanatic]

Star Tours and MuppetVision are just as close to each other. And RNR is pretty isolated from the rest of Sunset Blvd.

How is RNR isolated from the rest of Sunset? Because you have to walk through an entrance into a plaza? You could make the same argument then about ToT because you have to go halfway up a hill to get to it's entrance. I also am wondering if you are actually looking at the Hollywood Studios map, when you say that Star Tours and MuppetVision are as close as ToT and RNR.