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Why are DVC resales almost never cheaper when buying “bulk” points?

Discussion in 'Disney Vacation Club' started by HansGruber, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. GoofGoof

    GoofGoof Well-Known Member

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    In any resort where there's a murphy bed the studios go to 5 guests instead of 4. If the 2BR is a lockoff and consists of a studio that sleeps 5 plus a 1BR that sleeps 4 the occupancy goes to 9. In the case of BCV they did not add the Murphy bed to the living room of the villas so a studio now sleeps 5 but the 1BR villa still only sleeps 4. As @helenabear said that means if you have a dedicated 2BR it will only sleep 8 but a lockoff will sleep 9.

    At BLT and most of AKV they have the sleeper chair instead of the Murphy bed and that's in both 1BR and 2BR villas making the occupancy 5 and 9.
     
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  2. helenabear

    helenabear Well-Known Member

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    and bungalows ;)

    I think they also announced it because it gives people something to look forward too. We knew that PVB would sell out very soon - they knew that too and while we have CCVC, it's a small resort and I don't expect it to take more than PVB took to sell (3 years). It has 3,321,954 points total to sell. PVB 4,032,720. BCV is almost the same amount of points. I think by the time they sell CCVC, they will need another resort. As a reference permits were filed for CCVC in May of 2015. Officially announced a couple months later. 2 years later it opened. All done within months after PVB opened. Similar timeline really.
     
  3. helenabear

    helenabear Well-Known Member

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    OKW too has the sleeper chair in the 1 and 2 BRs as well.

    DVC officially allows that extra person they don't have a bed for. They unofficially have been doing that for at least a decade too. I remember booking for a friend back in 2008 where she had 5 (3 were teens) in a 1 bed at BWV. So while there isn't bedding for that person, they allow it. Unless something has changed in the last few years, the values at AKL (Jambo) are the exception to this rule.
     
  4. Phonedave

    Phonedave Well-Known Member

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    Just to be technical, but SSR does not really have an internal bus - sort of. SSR's busses are like OKW busses. There are multiple stops that the busses make around the resort, but there is not a internal bus. You can get any bus at any bus stop in SSR. It is not like CB, where there is one bus stop for all busses, and then a seperate internal bus.

    The exception to this is the treehouses at SSR. There IS an internal bus for the treehouses that runs between the two treehouse stops and the bus stop by the main pool.

    -dave
     
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  5. Phonedave

    Phonedave Well-Known Member

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    It's not sneaking - most allow 5 - by the rules, but not all have bedding for 5. You can put 5 people on the reservation, but one will have to find their own place to sleep. (we bring an air matterss)
     
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    Understood. I said internal bus to mean "taking multiple stops before you actually get on the road to where you're trying to go."
     
  7. helenabear

    helenabear Well-Known Member

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    I sort of figured that is what you meant. Admittedly that is in part why we stay in the HH area of OKW. No long bus routes to worry about. Get on at HH and off at Peninsular on the way back. 1 stop only for us ;)
     
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  8. CaptainAmerica

    CaptainAmerica Well-Known Member

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    I really like the views in buildings 45 and 46, plus the parking is so good that I'd always rent a car at OKW.
     
  9. helenabear

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    We went from OKW to BCV, boy did I miss the parking at OKW when we did that. Room sizes too. We're considering BWV and I'm almost regretting that already ;)
     
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  10. CaptainAmerica

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    Random question about how the DVC booking "month" windows work. I know the window for a home resort is eleven months, but is it exactly eleven months, or does the eleventh month open up all at once? Is it driven by check-in date, or does each day open on its own? I assume it works in one of these three ways:

    1. On August 1, 2017, you can book any trip in all of July 2018.
    2. On August 1, 2017, you can book a trip with a July 1, 2018 check-in.
    3. On August 1, 2017, you can book July 1, 2018 itself, then book July 2 on August 2 and so on.
     
  11. Phonedave

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    Yes, it is 11 months to the check in date, and you book your entire reservation up to 7 nights - #2 above.

    This has lead to a practice called "walking in" a reservation. Lets say I want 7 days, starting on Dec 25 running to Jan 1 - very hot times.

    If I try to book on Jan 25 for Dec 25, there is a chance there may be no availability in what I want, because people who are booking vacation with Dec 25 at the END of their vacations already have the rooms reserved. So what people do is "walk the dates in". They call up on Jan 18 and book a vacation for Dec 18-25. Then they go in on Jan 19 and modify the dates to Dec 19-26. Then on Jan 20, they modify it to Dec 20-27, and so on until they finally "walk it into" the dates they want. It is a generally frowned upon pracitce.

    -dave
     
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    Sounds awful. Is it safe to assume I'd be able to avoid all of that nonsense if I have zero interest in visiting during Christmas/Easter/Thanksgiving/Independence Day?
     
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    And EPCOT area resorts during F&W.

    If you are booking at 11 months out at your home resort, then really no problems. Walking in is not that widespread, and it really only seems to happen during those crazy times when it happens at all.



    -dave
     
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    Perfect. Now I just need to scrounge up $20 grand.
     
  15. GoofGoof

    GoofGoof Well-Known Member

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    I haven't done it yet, but I've never tried to book at 7 months for a peak time. We did book a 9 night stay once at 7 months but I just booked the first 7 days at the 7 month date then called to add days 8 and 9 the next 2 days. That was at BCV at the end of August so not really a peak time.
     

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