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Tokyo cars spotted near the speedway

Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by Bacon, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Corey P

    Corey P Well-Known Member

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    Oral approval???? What government gives oral approval?


    Good luck getting the city state and feral government to ok that project. In fact the airlines will be first to try and block. The taxi's will hate the idea if the hyperloop actually ends up in the cities. Bus companies etc. etc. Union guys will try to block it. It's just naive to think someone will just build a hyperloop on the east coast.
     
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  2. Corey P

    Corey P Well-Known Member

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    The whole roof would be glass tiles but some will be dummy tiles with no solar cells. Only the tiles with enough light would get solar tiles.
     
  3. jt04

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    People said it was naive to think you could land the 1st stage of a rocket back at the launch pad. Foolhardy even.

    His company is currently boring a transport tunnel under LA.
     
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  4. Corey P

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    Still have to spend $96K up front and live 25 years or not sell the house for 25 years. Still you at best would only make back your roof money. You're only talking about $2,500 and at most $3,000 worth of electricity produced. It gets to complicated for this forum, cost of money, ROI, Tax rebates, electric prices, night/day rates, net metering.
     
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  5. Corey P

    Corey P Well-Known Member

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    No they are not boring a tunnel under LA. Where did you here that?

    That's why Elon is the best CEO ever he says this stuff to pump up earnings, always say we could. maybe, in the future and people think he is actually building this stuff.

    Find one piece of proof that Musk is building a tunnel under LA??? Anything. That idea is called a sub way BTW. Putting cars on elevator to get to the tunnel and drive around is just stupid. Musk lifted the idea from Walt Disney original Epcot plans.
     
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    Yes, you are correct except the $3,000 worth of electricity produced is low....that might be an annual figure. Either way, with conventional solar panels you can build an equivalent wattage system for about a third of the cost, it's just not as pretty.
     
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    I think the draw for solar, to me at least, is independence.
     
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  8. danlb_2000

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    http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/07/why-elon-musk-tweeted-about-a-new-york-to-d-c-hyperloop.html

    ". By way of clarification, a spokesperson for the company told The Guardian that his boss was referring to “promising conversations” with government officials"

    So basically he was probably having a chat with someone in government and they said "that would be a cool idea". There would be massive hurdles to cross before this became a reality. There are no actual "approval" of anything at this point.
     
  9. danlb_2000

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    Technically he is "boring under LA". They are digging a test tunnel on the property of Space X's LA headquarters. Classic case of omitting key details to make it sound more impressive then it really is.
     
  10. djkidkaz

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    So are they adding a hyper loop to the speedway that goes into an underground tunnel to LA, using the Tokyo Speedway cars?
     
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    Yes and then you board a SpaceX rocket and to Mars. That'll replace space mountain with a true space travel experience.
     
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    Well if by "test tunnel" you mean an actual tunnel that will provide transport between two sites then I guess you are right.
     
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    It doesn't seem that he has done anything beyond a test tunnel on his own property...

    https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-boring-company-tunnels/

    and there isn't anything remarkable about this. Pretty standard boring technology and no plans to use it for a hyperloop. I don't deny Elon has done some cool stuff and has some ambitious ideas, but we are a long way from hyperloop transportation between major cities, assuming it every happens.
     
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    All the boring company needs is the first working tunnel to demonstrate feasibility. Then the company will become exceedingly boring. I don't see any hurdles that can stop the process once people understand just how common sense it is.
     
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    You're right on about this. Dare I say, (as many in these forums consider this blasphemy), Musk is a LOT like Walt Disney. Both have/had visions of great ideas, some their own, some are improvements on others ideas. If we reflect back on Walt's vision for EPCOT, which was never realized as our EPCOT is a theme park, WED had some marvelous ideas, many were not their inventions but the bettering of existing ideas. It's that grand vision of pulling it all together that makes leaps and bounds in the push for a greater future. This is also much akin to how Steve Jobs functioned. All pulled existing ideas, added their uniqueness to them and created great products for it. It's the end vision that drives the here and now production. They also are or were very belittling to their staff that didn't see the vision or didn't push hard enough for the vision. That's not a bad thing if you go into it knowing that your contribution and invention is part of a greater effort.

    Sorry so long.....anyway, my point is that while the hyperloop may not come to fruition, at least not now, and it is not a new concept, this is the first physical iteration on such a grand scale. After all, you put papers into a drive-up bank tube which transports it to the teller, who returns money or receipts to you via the same bi-directional tube. Someone has to make prototypes of this on a large scale to demonstrate and refine the concepts. Only through pushing the visions to grander scale can we ever justify the viability of ideas. Musk may not have 100% success in the way we are used to seeing it, but what he accomplishes by pushing those visions, betters us all when the technology and ideas are leveraged elsewhere.
     
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    If you don't see any hurdles then you have obviously never been to a zoning board meeting.
     
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    Not sure they have jurisdiction all the way to the center of the earth. Or even less. Guess we will find out.

    Seriously, if the first tunnel works, there will be no issues of significance. IMO.
     
  18. Corey P

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    It has nothing to do with Musk or Tesla but they are trying to build a real hyperloop in the middle east. It's not hard tech, it's just expensive to build. I bet this gets built in the near future.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/hype...g-the-hyperloop-between-dubai-and-abu-dhabi-1
     
  19. danlb_2000

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    We already know, the article I linked to is about the hearings with the first town he wants to go under.

    People have been building highways and rail systems for decades and yet new ones routinely meet with resistance during the zoning process.
     
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    If it works planning and zoning boards will be begging for more boring in their town. Or they can choose to be voted out.
     

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