Discussion in 'Disneyland Resort' started by BrianLo, Feb 28, 2016.
I assume you are talking about this trestle?
Lol no, I was talking about something else. I'm too embarrassed to say which thing now.
Seriously, I'm not saying what I thought. Ever.
Then there's the old story that the Shaman is actually a repurposed previous version Mr. Lincoln (because he's squatting). One legendary Mark Twain pilot (since moved on) "explained" that his translated words were "The world has never had a good definition of the word 'liberty'...."
i think u mean this...?
Actually, I don't think the train route is any higher than it was before--there's just a more compressed landscape between the tracks and the river. And I believe the large concrete pile with toothpicks on the right is actually the rocks just North of the new Indian Village. The telephoto lens makes it look like it is directly in front of the path of the train instead of some distance away..."just around the river bend", if you will. And even if you won't. LOL
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Ha. I'm actually a licensed Structural P.E. in New York, though I've done a lot more lurking than posting. I'll be happy to answer any questions, though most people here seem to have a pretty good grasp of everything going on.
Sorry if I missed the answer to this since I've skipped a couple pages here and there, but are we 100% sure that's structural steel being used on the body of the AT-ATs? They could be some sort of Aluminum or even Fiberglass structural shapes that give the appearance of steel with a fraction of the weight.
By "most people" you obviously aren't referring to me.
I don't think anyone has confirmed the type of material being used. It's mostly just people talking out of their
I know what a hammer and nails look like, but that's about the extent of my construction knowledge.
Nice, what grade do you teach P.E.?
Mainly because from our perspective we can see.. it's one size all the way around. So it looks to be uniform in material.. which pretty much eliminates fiberglass.. and aluminum might be viable, but at what cost to make huge drawn beams like that? And still doesn't explain why not using more conventional dimensional stuff like tubes. From photos the pieces look to be like 8"-10" tall.. that's pretty damn big for superficial body shaping. And why it stood out so much.
One might see it being stamped metal pieces...(like you see in commercial walls, or cheaper assembled sheet metal, etc) that would explain the size of the pieces.. but that couldn't be the big weight bearing pieces and the lack of distinction between the different areas works against that theory too. But it could just all be primed/coated in a way we can't see the differences from here.
I agree with what has been said about the strangeness of the AT AT construction so far, but I'll play devil's advocate here for a second. I wonder if perhaps there will be an animatronic or other sort of prop mounted to or suspended from the AT ATs? Or maybe they will house equipment that will need to be serviced by mechanics? Point being, they may function as structural platforms and not just props.
Also, lest we forget, this may not be the most over-engineered thing in Disney history. The American Adventure is an example of extremely cautious engineering, with the deepest reaching foundations in Walt Disney World. And don't forget what under-engineering can lead to.
So, I guess the intention for overbuilding is because the AT-ATs will be hanging from the ceiling and shooting at us.
It's possible that the heads are interior supports for larger head 'shells' that will move side to side around the inner structure
Well, they do make fiberglass structural shapes like beams, plates and angles that when finished look exactly like primed and painted steel and then can be bolted together to look like that. However you're right it, probably would be faster and cheaper just to have it built in plain ol' steel. Like you said there are some larger but fairly lightweight steel sections that could be selected that have the same appearance as heavier grade steel.
Perhaps there's a part of the ride that one of the sides gets blasted and the insides are exposed which would explain why it looks like that, or if they do indeed move around than that would also be a good reason.
I think people are setting themselves up for disappointment with all these theories on big movement on these AT-ATs.
?? I couldn't care less. I was just thinking of reasons why they would build it out of structural steel.
When it comes to Star Wars Land, I'm here for the construction, not the result. I'm really not looking forward to this becoming a part of Disneyland, but that discussion is for the Wookiee and Rebels thread.
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