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Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by MisterPenguin, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. MisterPenguin

    MisterPenguin Premium Member

    Feb 9, 2016
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    If you know something's missing, let me know. Please see the second post for more info. Thanks.


    Disney Hollywood Studios
    • Both Star Wars Lands will open in 2019 [official]
    • Toy Story Land in Hollywood Studio, currently being built
      • Rumor is May 2018 opening [strong] and [strong]
      • The code word for TSL: Ascot (reference to Barbie's Ken's ascot)
      • wdwthemeparks on TSL
      • Some of the big props in Pixar Place are being removed and will reappear in TSL [very likely]
    • Tower of Terror will not get the Guardians of the Galaxy overlay that the one in Anaheim is getting [confirmed by Bob Chapek]
      • Reaffirmed: ToT will remain untouched by GotG [strong]
    • Mickey Ride replacing (not overlaying) the Great Movie Ride (2019, 3-4Q. Starting this August... or a little later, but way before Christmas) [strong]
    • Star Tours
      • Star Tours will get a scene from Ep. 8, planet of Crait [official]
      • Star Tours will get a scene from Ep. 9 in 2019 and still be around for a year or two after that [strong]
      • Star Tours eventually reconfigured for some other IP after SWL opens
    • Mama Melrose: Status unknown. Stay as is or get a Muppet theme?
    • Muppet Theater exterior and Muppet Square get a refresh [very strong]
    • Muppet fountain to be restored as a fountain once off stage infrastructure is done. [likely]
    • Echo Lake area is safe for now. [likely]
    • Shows:
      • Fantasmic!
      • Indy is safe for now. [likely]
      • Mermaid, Beauty... are all long running shows and plans were made for replacements but then delayed. Will they ever be updated with, e.g., the Aladdin show that was in Anaheim or the Tangled show that's on the cruise ships?
      • The Theater of the Stars where Beauty and the Best plays is also talked about as being changed: demo'd for something new or possibly enclosed [and here]
      • Little Mermaid could be replaced when TSL opens in 2018. Launch Bay changed in 2019 or even sooner. Disney Jr. is safe. [likely]
      • Of these four: Voyage of the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast Stage Show, Fantasmic, and Indiana Jones Stunt Show; expect 1 to be changed in 2018, another by 2019, and the other 2 refreshed by 2021. Also expect a new show in a new-ish location. [here]
      • Music of Pixar Live Concert begins May 26, 2017 in BatB's stage at night. [official] [done]
    • The rumored "Phase 3" is not going to be another land, but instead, updates like the Mickey ride; however, there once was talk of "2 new areas" in the planning stages which are now off the table
    • A possible new boat ride
    • Hollywood Studios is still getting an unknown name change, but that seems to be held off until the new Lands are completed. What an adventure!
    • wdwthemeparks on DHS

    Magic Kingdom
    • Wishes fireworks to be replaced on May 12, 2017: Happily Ever After [done]
    • status of the Night Time Parade:
      • Get a new night time parade back eventually... a slim possibility of a borrowed parade, or, the one meant for the 50th rushed into production for 2017 or 2018
      • Festival of Fantasy didn't turn out to work well at night, so, not used. Though, an iteration of Move It Shake It was moved to early evening.
      • But there will definitely be a new night time parade for the 50th in 2021. [likely]
    • Magic Kingdom 50th Anniversary (2021)
      • there will be an eventual replacement for "Happily Ever After" (which replaced "Wishes")
        • although... there may be rumblings that since HEA was so well received, they might just update and upgrade it instead of a brand new show. [here]
      • Have something new in each park by the 50th other than the stuff already publicly announced
      • Frontierland refresh was associated with 50th celebration, but seems to be back-burnered
      • "50 Things" marketing campaign will take place to list 50 new things added to the parks in celebration of the 50th
    • Tomorrowland refresh: while nothing has been announced, this is definitely happening since it has already started with paint jobs and the seasonal closure of Stitch. However, the plans have not been finalized and there are several contenders, and so, competing ideas keep getting leaked...
      • We've already seen the boulders and Carousel of Progress get a new paint job... so they're staying. And the paint job is a hint of what's to come, as well as the new Joffrey's. And rocks will be getting new lighting, like Space Mountain recently received.
      • We've already seen Stitch's Great Escape go into seasonal mode. It was going to be a Wreck It Ralph ride (like Minions/Simpson in Universal), but that is nixed. Some other IP is going there. (by 2019? 2020?)
      • Speedway is changing: they're still debating whether to give it an overlay, truncate it, or completely replace it
      • Other stuff: Insiders hint that there are several other significant changes coming, but won't say what so as to protect their sources.
      • Tron coaster is a contender, but not a top one [likely]
      • There will be 2-3 new rides [likely]
      • Carousel of Progress is getting a refurb, most likely updating final scene and reskinning the AAs [likely]
      • A name change for Tomorrowland? Discovery Land?
    • Adventureland
      • Tiki Room: a possible contender of multiple plans is to replace Tiki Room with something else. Multiple sources say such a plan, along with others, exists [strong]
      • wdwthemeparks on Moana coming to Adventureland
      • Fire Mountain Rumor: A volcano for Adventureland was once on the drawing board a long time ago, the rumor it's back on the table as a possibility has recently been revived.
    • Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson will star in a Jungle Cruise movie. He posted on instagram that "we'll partner with Disney's brilliant Imagineers to help re-engineer and re-design the #JungleCruise ride in all the Disney theme parks around the world." Orlando Sentinel says Disney says there is no plan to revamp the ride.
    • Characters
      • Incredibles Super Dance Party will end Apr 30, 2017 [strong] [done]
      • Mr. Incredible and Frozone move to Move it Shake It. Chip and Dale move to Town Square (leaving Frontierland) where stitch met. Stitch move to Tomorrowland. [strong] [done]
      • Chip, Dale, Phineas and Ferb are leaving MiSi toward the end of May. Bob, Frozone, Stitch and Genie will be coming back to MiSi. [strong]
    Animal Kingdom (2021)

    • Designation of Value, Moderate, and Deluxe being done away with. Rooms priced as the market will bear. Multiple criteria will be considered in pricing: closeness to a park, size of room, theming, amenities, etc.... Computer searching for price range replaces cost tiers.
    • Tower being built in Coronado Springs. High end / business suites. Top story viewing-restaurant. Room refurbs, landscaping update. [official] [discussion thread]
    • Caribbean
      • Centertown update with more retail and dining. [official]
      • DVC for Caribbean (deluxe, not moderate). Most likely a new section / tower with a new related theme and a gondola lift station. [strong]
    • Whole bunch of rumored new projects, most of them DVC. Some bantered about:
      • A Star Wars theme hotel with a two-night interactive component [strong, corroborated by official survey about such a resort]
      • Brand new resort complexes in the area of Epcot entrance (not Crescent Lake), four in the running [likely]
      • Swolphin tower on Fantasia Gardens parking lot, tennis court, and cabanas (but not the miniature golf) [likely]
      • Another tower for Contemporary [weak]
      • Another resort near Poly and Shades of Green [very weak]

    In General / Park Wide

    Disney Springs
    • DisneyQuest is finally closing down on July 3, 2017 to be replaced with the NBA Experience. This will entail a complete demolition of DQ. [official]
    • 3rd Parking Garage going up in employee lot across the street by the Speedway. Construction started. [official]
    • La Nouba the Cirque show at the Cirque 'tent' is ending at the end of 2017. A new Cirque show will take its place requiring the theater to go dark during its refurbishment and renovation. [official]
      • During this time, a big top tent may go up behind the Cirque theater for a temporary Cirque show. [likely]
      • Then when done, a 4th garage go up in that site. [weak]
    • LED lights in the 'springs' will provide colored mood lighting [likely] and even put on a lite light show [weak]
    • Beginning fall 2017 or early 2018, Marketplace shops will be refurbed to bring them up to DS level (like Planet Hollywood and Fulton Crab House had to upgrade). [weak]
    • The Edison's opening is moved again, to Late 2017. It is unknown if "Walt's" or a rumored underground tunnel guest area (maybe a speakeasy) is still in the works. Thread here.
    • Uniqlo hems. As does Levi's store.
    • As of April 24, 2017, rumors are that Bongos and Wolfgang Puck (the restaurant, and not the QS) will be replaced by some other restaurant(s).

    Disneyland / CA
    • The area around GotG:MB (which was rumored to be a new Marvel Land) recently got a budget cut. [strong]
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2017 at 12:36 PM
  2. MisterPenguin

    MisterPenguin Original Poster Premium Member

    Feb 9, 2016
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    This is far from done. I've gone through 400 posts by @marni1971 , and that's just for April ( :eek: ). I'll be going through all the insiders' posts and linking to here. So, just scratched the tip of the iceberg so far.

    A few notes:
    • Please wait until I say I'm done with the post-mining before making suggestions or additions.
      • I don't see much changing at this point. I'm still datamining the insiders for links. So, if you know something's missing, let me know.
      • If you're an insider and want to PM me, I am extraordinarily good at keeping confidences.
    • If you see an error, please let me know right away
    • I'm not cataloguing bus-driver rumors. If a CM or a Tweeter posts a rumor somewhere, they better be able to give an account of how they know it (e.g., someone in a show gets a call that the show will be ending in a month). If it's just a rumor they heard, it's garbage. CMs generally don't know anything more than we do, because they read the blogs, not because they have lunch with Bob Iger.
    • Unless you're an insider or you can quote an insider, please don't try to argue how sure or iffy a rumor is based on hunches or what Disney has done in the past... let the insiders be insiders.
    • Please keep this thread to the fact of the rumor and it's rumorniness, not the merits of the content of the rumor... plenty of threads for those, in fact, I'll try to make sure most if not all of the rumors have a link to a discussion thread
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2017
  3. Princess Leia

    Princess Leia Well-Known Member

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  4. Kman101

    Kman101 Premium Member

    Apr 10, 2007
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    Fantastic! Thank you for doing this :)
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  5. Nemo14

    Nemo14 Well-Known Member

    Mar 22, 2005
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    Nice to have this all in one place. Thanks for doing this!
  6. Coaster Lover

    Coaster Lover Well-Known Member

    Mar 1, 2015
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    Love having "Table of Contents" threads like this... makes keeping up with all these new and rumors much easier! Thank you for all your work!
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  7. wdwgreek

    wdwgreek Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2013
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    Very very well done! A complete and accurate rendition of where we are right now! While I would love to see some non-IP related stuff on that list, all and all very impressive list of projects!
    larryz and epcot82fan like this.
  8. steffib

    steffib Member

    Jul 11, 2015
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    this is great, thanks for doing must have taken you a long time!
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  9. jt04

    jt04 Well-Known Member

    Jul 27, 2004
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    Don't forget about potential parking garages. Priorities Mr Penguin, priorities.
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  10. ryguy

    ryguy Well-Known Member

    Feb 13, 2006
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    Thanks for your time in compiling this list!
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  11. michael.fumc

    michael.fumc Well-Known Member

    Jan 19, 2011
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    Great job!!!! Thank you this is really amazing!
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  12. Bandit03

    Bandit03 New Member

    Oct 20, 2014
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    Thank you for summarizing this!
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  13. Kylo Ken

    Kylo Ken Smelly 407 Local Premium Member

    Jun 8, 2016
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    Stellar job out of you for doing this. STELLAR! Thank you for this :)
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  14. FigmentFan3

    FigmentFan3 Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2013
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    Hats off, indeed!
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  15. jaques21

    jaques21 Active Member

    Jul 11, 2009
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    Great Job! reading stuff like this makes me happy!:joyfull:
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  16. epcot82fan

    epcot82fan EPCOT Center Purist

    Aug 23, 2016
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    Thank you for making this @MisterPenguin !! Great to have one place to see everything together! @wdwmagic , Could we pin this?
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  17. epcot82fan

    epcot82fan EPCOT Center Purist

    Aug 23, 2016
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    Did you see @MisterPenguin 's second post?
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  18. CaptainAmerica

    CaptainAmerica Well-Known Member

    Jan 28, 2015
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    @MisterPenguin a few suggestions. Your Epcot headline says 2017 - 2020 but many of the projects under it say 2021. There's also been chatter about Moana moving to the Magic Kingdom.
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  19. disneygeek90

    disneygeek90 Well-Known Member

    Nov 3, 2014
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    Thank you! This is wonderful. Will you be editing the OP when new info arises? It's so hard for me to track down new insider info when it's on page 90/105.
  20. Rsj88

    Rsj88 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2016
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    Thank you!!!
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